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Trump was not found guilty of sexual assault, he was found liable in a civil court and that's not a criminal conviction.
You're a liar Aorus, nobody cares about your TDS.

RedCowboy said:

you admitted to raping an underage girl,

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You sick fuck, what I said was that a teenage me had sex with my teenage girlfriend, NO ONE WAS RAPED MORON!
AND WE HAD PARENTAL CONSENT!

TRUMP IS THE REAL PEDOPHILE! HE WAS A MAN IN HIS 40S, 50S, AND 60S RAPING UNDERAGE CHILDREN WITH EPSTEIN AND MAXWELL!!!

TRUMP IS A PIECE OF SHIT SCUMBAG AND YOU SUPPORT HIM!!!

THIS IS WHO YOU SUPPORT, AND THIS IS FAR FROM ALL OF IT...

Kristin Anderson – Early 1990s. Story in the Washington Post on October 14, 2016.
Anderson says she was in a Manhattan bar with friends when the person next to her reached up her skirt and touched her vagina through her underwear. She says she turned and recognized the person as Donald Trump.

E. Jean Carroll – late 1995 or early 1996. Story in NY Magazine June 21 and expected in upcoming book.
Carroll describes running into Trump in a department store, where she says he recognized her for her widely-read advice column. Carroll says they went into a dressing room after Trump asked for her advice on a present – lingerie – for another woman. Inside, she alleges that he shoved her against a wall, “forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me.” A senior White House official issued a statement to NY Magazine calling the accusation, “a completely false and unrealistic story.”

Rachel Crooks – 2005. Story in The New York Times on October 12, 2016.
A 22-year-old receptionist at the time, Crooks said Trump gave her an unwanted kiss on the mouth after meeting him in 2005.

“Jane Doe” aka “Katie Johnson” – 1994. Lawsuit filed June 2016, refiled October 2016 as reported by Buzzfeed and others, then dropped in November 2016.
Jane Doe is an unnamed plaintiff, who has also gone by “Katie Johnson” in legal papers. She claims she was repeatedly raped by Trump and Jeffery Epstein at Epstein’s New York City apartment in 1994, when she was 13 years old. A witness, also given a pseudonym — “Tiffany Doe” — said she recruited “Jane Doe” and others. Doe, using the name “Johnson,” gave an interview to the Daily Mail in which she said she did not know who Trump was at the time of the alleged attack but identified him later when she saw him on television. It is not known why she withdrew the lawsuit. She has not spoken publicly or withdrawn her rape allegation since then.

Jessica Drake – 2006. Story made public at a news conference October 22, 2016.
While working as an adult film actress, Drake says Trump invited her to the room where he was staying in Lake Tahoe. In the room, she says he grabbed, hugged and kissed her and two other women who accompanied her without permission. Later, she alleges that Trump called her and pressed her to return to his room, offering $10,000 at one point. Drake says she declined.

Jill Harth – 1992-1993. Story in the The New York Times on October 9, 2016.
A Florida businesswoman who partnered with Trump and later dated him. Harth alleged that he groped her under the table at dinner with her boyfriend then repeatedly got her alone, and it would turn into a “wrestling match.” She sued Trump for breach of contract, sexual harassment and at one point attempted rape. She settled and then in 1998 dated Trump.

Cathy Heller – 1997. Story in the Guardian on October 15, 2016.
At a Mother’s Day brunch for Mar-A-Lago club members’ families in 1997, Heller alleges that when she was introduced to Trump, he grabbed her and tried to kiss her on the lips. Heller says she leaned back to avoid him and then he kissed her on the side of her mouth. CNN has reported Heller is a Democratic donor.

Ninni Laaksonen – 2006. Former Miss Finland. Story in Ilta-Sonomat on October 27, 2016. In English in the Telegraph.
Laaksonen told Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sonomat that Trump “squeezed her butt” as she and other pageant contestants stood next to him for a publicity photo, ahead of an appearance on The Letterman Show.

Jessica Leeds – Early 1980s. Story in The New York Times on October 12, 2016.
Leeds says she sat next to Trump in first class on an airplane and that he kissed her, groped her chest and reached up her skirt, leading her to move back to coach. “He was like an octopus,” she told The New York Times. In a NY Post report published October 14, 2016, a British man whose interview was arranged by the Trump campaign said that he was on the flight, that Leeds’ account is false and he remembers Leeds acting inappropriately.

Mindy McGillivray – Jan. 24, 2003. Story in Palm Beach Post on October 12, 2016.
Working as an assistant to photographers at Mar-a-Lago in 2003, McGillivray charges that Trump nudged or grabbed her from behind.

Jennifer Murphy – 2004. Story in Grazia on October 12, 2016.
A former Miss USA and “The Apprentice” contestant, Grazia says that Trump kissed her on the lips after walking her to the elevators following a meeting in New York, which he said was to discuss a possible job.

Cassandra Searles – 2013. Made story public in Facebook post in early 2016.
Miss Washington 2013, Searles wrote on Facebook, “He probably doesn’t want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room.”

Natasha Stoynoff – December 2005. Story on People.com on October 12, 2016.
Stoynoff was a celebrity reporter covering Trump for People Magazine. She alleges that Trump assaulted her while she was at Mar-a-Lago interviewing him and Melania Trump for a story about their one-year anniversary. She alleges Trump took her to a private room, pushed her against the wall and aggressively kissed her. Stoynoff also says a staffer told her Trump was waiting for her the next day at a massage appointment.

Temple Taggart McDowell – 1997. Story in New York Times May 14, 2016.
McDowell, who was Miss Utah USA 1997, charges that Trump suddenly kissed her without her consent on two separate occasions.

Karena Virginia – 1998. Story made public at a news conference October 20, 2016.
Virginia says that while she was waiting for a ride following the U.S Open tennis tournament, Trump walked up to her, grabbed her arm and touched her breast.

Summer Zervos – 2007. Story made public in a news conference October 14, 2016.
A former contestant on “The Apprentice,” Zervos alleges that Trump told her he wanted to discuss a possible job, but alone in a Beverly Hills Hotel bungalow, grabbed her breasts, kissed her and tried to lead her into a bedroom.

PAGEANT CONTESTANTS ALLEGING TRUMP WALKED IN WHILE THEY WERE DRESSING

Mariah Billado – 1997 Miss Vermont Teen. Story in Buzzfeed on October 12, 2016.

Tasha Dixon – 2001 Miss Arizona. Story in CBSLA on October 11, 2016.

Victoria Hughes – 1997 Miss New Mexico Teen. Story in Buzzfeed on October 13, 2016.

Bridget Sullivan – 2000 Miss New Hampshire. Story in Buzzfeed May 18, 2016.

Buzzfeed on October 12, 2016 reported that three other anonymous sources from 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant confirmed Billado and Hughes’ story.

OTHER ALLEGATIONS OF IMPROPER CONDUCT

Lisa Boyne – Summer 1996. Story in The Huffington Post on October 13, 2016.
Boyne alleges that at a group dinner, Trump and other men forced women to walk over the table to leave their seats and that Trump looked up the women’s skirts and commented on their underwear and genitalia.

Ivana Trump – 1989. Accusations in early 1990s court deposition, made public in The Daily Beast on July 27, 2015. Ivana disavowed stories of rape in a 1993 book and further commented on July 28, 2015.

Aorus Forever said:

You sick fuck, what I said was that a teenage me had sex with my teenage girlfriend, NO ONE WAS RAPED MORON!
AND WE HAD PARENTAL CONSENT!

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YOU ARE A LIAR AORUS!
You admitted that you were over 19, that means you were NOT a teenager.
You child raping pedophile.

RedCowboy said:

And yet, Hamas still hasn't released all the hostages.

That said I doubt your "most" assertation.

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More than 60% is what I call most. Wouldn't you?

You would think Hamas would release all the hostages, apparently Hamas wants to continue the fighting.
So who can blame Israel for fighting, when the terrorist haven't released all the hostages.
You think nato can force Israel to stand down, when they still haven't received all their kidnapped citizens back yet?

RedCowboy said:

YOU ARE A LIAR AORUS!
You admitted that you were over 19, that means you were NOT a teenager.
You child raping pedophile.

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I'd give this a rest. It isn't proving your point. It is just schoolyard name calling

RedCowboy said:

You would think Hamas would release all the hostages, apparently Hamas wants to continue the fighting.
So who can blame Israel for fighting, when the terrorist haven't released all the hostages.
You think nato can force Israel to stand down, when they still haven't received all their kidnapped citizens back yet?

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I think the Palestinian people have nothing to do with this. Netanyahu is using food as a weapon to lure starving people within gun range.

I don't know about that, but I do feel sorry for the Palestinians, however I am also sympathetic to the Israelis.
I believe we may see the Gaza strip liquidated, but the west bank line may or may not be pushed back, I expect we will see Israel take ownership of Gaza 1st.

Yeah, I don't see Palestinians leaving their country under any circumstances. Especially, with France, the UK and Canada recognizing Gaza as a country.

No, no, no paulie boy, don't change the wording.
The talk about the UK Nato nations is in recognizing Palestine, which the vast majority of the land mass is the west bank, the much smaller portion, the Gaza strip on the oceanfront, is going to be lost on account of the last round of horrific terrorism, all the Palestinians who don't die in Gaza can go to their west bank, so Palestine will live on, just not in Gaza.

The wealthy jews will make a very nice seaside home out of the Gaza strip, watch.
Now do I love wealthy jews...... not particularly, I've worked for a few and they can be...... bitchy, but they have the ability and Trumps unofficial backing to take Gaza and Nato won't stop it..... well I doubt they can stop it, sure there will be lots of talk, bla, bla, bla as it continues to happen.

RedCowboy said:

No, no, no paulie boy, don't change the wording.
The talk about the UK Nato nations is in recognizing Palestine, which the vast majority of the land mass is the west bank, the much smaller portion, the Gaza strip on the oceanfront, is going to be lost on account of the last round of horrific terrorism, all the Palestinians who don't die in Gaza can go to their west bank, so Palestine will live on, just not in Gaza.

The wealthy jews will make a very nice seaside home out of the Gaza strip, watch.
Now do I love wealthy jews...... not particularly, I've worked for a few and they can be...... bitchy, but they have the ability and Trumps unofficial backing to take Gaza and Nato won't stop it..... well I doubt they can stop it, sure there will be lots of talk, bla, bla, bla as it continues to happen.

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Gaza is on that as well. Of course the West Bank is important, as Israel has been pushing out Muslims there. No one is going to take Gaza from the Palestinians.

RedCowboy said:

YOU ARE A LIAR AORUS!
You admitted that you were over 19, that means you were NOT a teenager.
You child raping pedophile.

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Yes, I was Nine"TEEN" you jackass! Where did you think the word "teen" came from???

I was less than 3 years older than her AND I RAPED NO ONE! two teens had sex, something you wouldn't understand being an unwanted virgin, most likely in your 30s, before a girl would let you touch her, and most likely drunk of course...

trump was raping childen in his 40s, 50s, and 60s!!! AND AGAINST THEIR WILL!!!! He is the real pedophile rapest!!! not one of your make-believe fever dreams...
Court documents accusing former U.S. President Donald Trump and the late billionaire sex offender Jeffrey Epstein of raping a 13-year-old girl identified as Katie Johnson are often shared by Trump's detractors on social media.

Though the Johnson cases were dismissed or withdrawn, those claims laid the groundwork for, and lent perceived credibility to, other entirely unsourced rumors that the former president had settled myriad other lawsuits with underage assault victims, pointing to evidence of his alleged "pedophilic disorder."

The Johnson claims, however, originated due to the aggressive efforts of a publicist using the false name Al Taylor. In 2016, investigative reporters tied the Taylor persona to a former "Jerry Springer Show" producer, Norm Lubow. For this story, Lubow confirmed to Snopes he had acted as Taylor and played a role in filing and promoting the Johnson claims.

Lubow's involvement does not disprove that Johnson is a real person, but it does show that those claims were aggressively promoted and aided by someone who has a professional history of using individuals to create fictional salacious drama, and that is a fact both he and lawyers working for the plaintiff attempted to downplay or hide.

In September 2024, old claims that former U.S. President Donald Trump committed acts of sexual violence against minors in the 1990s reemerged on social media platforms including X and Reddit, sharing this time alongside a new meme illustrating the allegation:

This allegation, since its origin in late 2016, has always been supported by images of court documents describing graphic rapes allegedly perpetrated by Trump and convicted sex offender/financier Jeffrey Epstein. Snopes has covered these documents several times, including when they went viral in July 2024. These court documents are part of a lawsuit that alleges that in 1994, an associate of Epstein recruited a 13-year-old girl, originally identified as Katie Johnson, to become his sex slave. Epstein raped the girl, the documents claim, and also forced her to have sex with Trump on multiple occasions in both New York and Florida. The filings also include testimony from an anonymous witness corroborating the allegations.

These images accurately show real court documents, but not ones connected to the ongoing release of Epstein grand jury files. Instead, these allegations were made in late April 2016, and Snopes first covered the court filings in June 2016. The written complaint included graphic accounts of the alleged rapes, including the claim that Trump refused to wear a condom and instead threw money at the girl and told her to use it for an abortion. The case was filed in U.S. District Courts in California and New York. Though these lawsuits were dismissed or withdrawn, the claims attributed to Johnson laid the groundwork for, and lent perceived credibility to, other entirely unsourced rumors that the former president had settled myriad other lawsuits with underage assault victims, pointing to evidence of an alleged "pedophilic disorder."

Memes referencing that latter series of claims, which originated in a subscription-only blog post from a conspiracy theorist with a history of false claims, reemerged following this recent dump of "Epstein docs." As Snopes discussed in August 2020, there was — and remains — no basis to the claims stemming from those rumors.

In the run-up to the 2024 U.S. presidential election, these two categories of child rape and abuse claims have often been merged into a single assertion about Trump settling lawsuits related to the purported sexual assault of multiple minors:

Despite their centrality to the "Trump is a pedophile" narrative and to allegations mainstream media has been "ignoring" them, investigations by reporters at Jezebel and The Guardian found numerous red flags in the 2016 court filings and story. Among those red flags was evidence that tied the case to an aggressive media campaign initiated by an individual calling himself Al Taylor. Taylor's story, as told to Jezebel, was "that he'd heard Katie's story for the first time [in 2014], after meeting her at a party" and that "as a former psychology major in college and reality TV producer … people were always telling him things unsolicited, even now that he's retired from television." To Jezebel, he claimed (without evidence) to have worked as a producer for "Inside Edition." In the months before the 2016 U.S. presidential election, however, The Guardian connected the Taylor persona to a former producer for "The Jerry Springer Show" named Norm Lubow. In 2016, Lubow strongly denied to Jezebel and The Guardian that he was Taylor. However, when Snopes spoke to Lubow in July 2024, he confirmed that he was, in fact, Taylor and said he did aid the accuser in her first lawsuit and in promoting the claims within it to journalists. Thomas Meagher, an attorney who represented someone identifying herself as Johnson in 2016, declined to comment for this story. In this story, Snopes shows how Lubow's involvement remains a key red flag undermining the Johnson claims.

Rather than handing out food, they need to be relocating the Palestinians left in Gaza to the West Bank, failure to do so is simply using people as pawns in a political battle.

Remember that children in Israel were kidnapped and killed in their beds, worse yet some were intentionally killed in front of their parents by Hamas terrorist from Palestine.

Israel is taking the Gaza strip and if the world watching insists that the Palestinians stay in Gaza until the last person falls, then the world will have helped kill them all.

So ask yourself, do you care about starving Palestinian children enough to advocate for their relocation to the West Bank or do you only want to use their demise as political fodder..... DECIDE WHAT YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT!

I say relocate them to the West Bank and let Israel have the Gaza strip, if you say they should stay in Gaza then you care more about making political hay out of their deaths than saving their lives.

I challenge you hypocrites to say it, say you would rather see the Palestinians relocated to the West Bank, rather than lying dead in Gaza, I CHALLENGE YOU TO SAY IT, OTHERWISE YOU HATE TRUMP MORE THAN YOU LOVE PALESTENIAN CHILDREN!

Let's see if Aorus and paul can give an honest answer, I already know they hate Trump more than they care about Palestinian children, that's why neither can say they would rather see the Palestinians relocated from Gaza to the West Bank, than to see them lying dead in Gaza, because lying dead in Gaza they get to make political hay and feed their TDS TRUMP HATRED!

I would rather see the Palestinians relocated from Gaza to the West Bank, than lying dead in Gaza, I am a better person than either of you paul/Aorus if you can't say the same, but you can't because you hate more than you love, prove me wrong, say it.

These people don't want to leave their homeland. It does, and always has, belonged to the Palestinians. Netanyahu needs to open up Gaza to the NGOs that supply food.