Laserchat / any IRC at all?

DigiSage · Sep 1, 2011

I've been trying to get on laserchat for the last few days and it's not working. No matter what hostname I connect from (2 shell accounts, and also my home Internet connection) and no matter what IRC client I use (ircII derivatives, Colloquy, Textual) I get the same error message:

*** You are banned from ECNet (bot detected)

I've tried the following server names:
irc.ecnet.org
irc.pseudo-servers.com

Anyone know what's up?

Things · Sep 1, 2011

What nick and hostmask/realname are you trying to use? If you can give me some of the details you are trying to connect with, I can look into what is blocking you.

EDIT: I'm assuming one (or all) of these were you, they are around the right time:

Code:

	Line 703498: 10[6:38pm] -laser.irc.ecnet.org- *** G:Line added for *@96.126.116.9 on Thu Sep  1 08:39:55 2011 GMT (from noodle.irc.ecnet.org to expire at Thu Sep  1 08:40:55 2011 GMT: bot detected)
	Line 703512: 10[6:48pm] -laser.irc.ecnet.org- *** G:Line added for *@96.126.116.9 on Thu Sep  1 08:49:57 2011 GMT (from pseudo-servers.irc.ecnet.org to expire at Thu Sep  1 08:50:57 2011 GMT: bot detected)
	Line 703514: 10[6:49pm] -laser.irc.ecnet.org- *** G:Line added for *@67.228.43.122 on Thu Sep  1 08:50:35 2011 GMT (from pseudo-servers.irc.ecnet.org to expire at Thu Sep  1 08:51:35 2011 GMT: bot detected)

bobhaha · Sep 1, 2011

Try connecting via chat.mibbit.com if you are desperate.

Server: ECNet
Channel: #laserchat

DigiSage · Sep 1, 2011

Things said:
What nick and hostmask/realname are you trying to use? If you can give me some of the details you are trying to connect with, I can look into what is blocking you.

EDIT: I'm assuming one (or all) of these were you, they are around the right time:

Code:

Line 703498: 10[6:38pm] -laser.irc.ecnet.org- *** G:Line added for *@96.126.116.9 on Thu Sep 1 08:39:55 2011 GMT (from noodle.irc.ecnet.org to expire at Thu Sep 1 08:40:55 2011 GMT: bot detected) Line 703512: 10[6:48pm] -laser.irc.ecnet.org- *** G:Line added for *@96.126.116.9 on Thu Sep 1 08:49:57 2011 GMT (from pseudo-servers.irc.ecnet.org to expire at Thu Sep 1 08:50:57 2011 GMT: bot detected) Line 703514: 10[6:49pm] -laser.irc.ecnet.org- *** G:Line added for *@67.228.43.122 on Thu Sep 1 08:50:35 2011 GMT (from pseudo-servers.irc.ecnet.org to expire at Thu Sep 1 08:51:35 2011 GMT: bot detected)

Things, yes, those IPs are me. My full IRC mask is: irq!dan@hozro.moo.cat. I'm on Freenode, OFTC and Mozilla from that host with no issues. 67.228.43.122 is another box I have that I tried to get onto ecnet with just to see what happened, but I got the same error message.

I'm obviously not trying to run a bot of any kind.... do you know what kind of bot-detection system I'm tripping?

Thanks!

DigiSage · Sep 8, 2011

Any update on this? It still thinks I'm a bot... no matter where I connect from... how the heck do you people even sign on?

Things · Sep 10, 2011

Unfortunately, getting hold of the other netadmins is a bit of a PITA (Very few on this network). I'm trying to figure out who's script it is.

DigiSage · Sep 10, 2011

Oi. It's a bit tough from my position too. I've been using IRC since 1994. I've been an oper on a couple of different networks, including efnet and openprojects(freenode). Imagine my surprise when some automated tool accuses me of being a bot.

If your tools are assuming someone connecting from a UNIX host, using a modern ircII-based client, with the identd port open and answered by a real identd daemon is a bot, then you can safely assume you're turning away basically everyone else who might ever try to connect to your IRC network.

This makes me sad because honestly, I just want to sign on and talk about lasers. WTF?

Things · Sep 10, 2011

Sadly, most of this stuff has been setup before i was made oper, so I really have no idea who has setup the filter or what it's looking for. I am still looking, though.

EDIT: OK, I'm pretty sure this I've ofund what's blocking you out. It's a fairly recent spamfilter added after some bot attacks earlier in the year.

*![a-z]{3}@.*:.*

Your realname does seem to fit that. I'll see if I can remove it.

DigiSage · Sep 10, 2011

Things: I very much appreciate your effort. i'd love to chat with some other people on IRC about lasers. This is really the only network that seems to do it. So I hope you figure it out

Things · Sep 10, 2011

Put in a request to have it removed, just need to wait for one of the Sadmins to do it. Maybe you can just add another letter to your realname for now, that should fix it. Unless it means something on your other networks.

DigiSage · Sep 10, 2011

I've tried multiple nicks and multiple source IP addresses on multiple servers :-( From my point of view, anyone new who connects to your IRC network is immediately G-lined, but that can't possibly be the truth. However, I can't find any way to get on at all. How do I submit this request you speak of?

Things · Sep 10, 2011

Sorry, I meant I've put in the request to get it removed, since I don't think I can do it myself.

Interesting that it's not letting you in even after changing details.

DigiSage · Sep 10, 2011

Things: Yeah, it seems to automatically add a new G-line every time I connect from anywhere, so while I appreciate you submitting a request to remove the existing G-lines, it seems unlikely that such a request will prevent new G-lines from being automatically added due to "bot detected"....

Things · Sep 10, 2011

Nah, I'm putting in a request to have the whole spamfilter removed.

The spamfitler is basically checking for realnames (Nick!Realname@host.name) that have 3 letters in them) You said your IRC mask is: irq!dan@hozro.moo.cat.

So in this case, it would be matching the word "dan".

It shouldn't effect you if you change that.

DigiSage · Sep 16, 2011

I've managed to sign on. Thanks!

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