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So over here (http://laserpointerforums.com/f40/pgl-iii-c-473-50mw-died-52419-4.html#post759094) I've been chronicling the story of the repair of my PGL-III-C-473; something that other people have had go just fine and smoothly.
But I have a feeling due to Wicked's recent shennanigans, the FDA is clamping down tightly on anything and everything that says "laser" on it.
CNI claims on their website:
(Located on this page: --> Laser pointer, handheld laser, 473 nm blue, 532 nm green, yellow, red portable laser. )
However, today, I got a call from DHL, mid-shipment, with them frantic about getting my Tax ID #, SSN# and a "FDA Form 2877" (example here: http://www.pbb.com/en/tools/trade_documentation_tools/usa_documents/FDA2877-Fillable.pdf ) in order to deliver the laser. Saying they cannot do so without it.
One of the options on that form is, basically, "Yes, this laser has an Accession # on file."
Searching, now, however, I can't find a reference to PGL-III-C having an accession # anywhere. This does not bode well.
Now, this is the PGL-III-C, with the safety requirements as described above. It's not sold as a pointer. Basically, it hits all the marks. CNI claims they have accession numbers -- so this laser should be perfectly legal to import, right?
The only thing I wonder is -- a lot of companies in China tend to be - to say the least - a little bit less honest than they should be.
CNI has a great reputation in this forum, and my situation is (due to my damned luck) - the only such thing that I've ever seen happen here.
My primary worry: A) I'm probably not going to get the laser. and, B) I'm not so sure that CNI is about to wire my money back to me for the thing. (Fat chance on that. But maybe their reputation IS deserved and maybe they will.)
Secondarily: Could the FDA go back through shipping records and demand all of my lasers. Who knows. I suppose it's possible at this point.
I was alwaws a proponent of ordering the lasers with the 5-point safety systems and staying as compliant as humanly possible. Ordering from CNI, I *thought*, as stated on their website, that these lasers all have accession numbers and are perfectly legal to import.
Either CNI fudged up their paperwork (Which seems strange, with how many of these they export to the US) - or... there is no accession number.
Does anyone have any information to the contrary? I saw "cnilasers" post on the forum just a few days ago, encouraging people to buy directly from them. I'd love to see them step up right now and help out with what's happening here, or explain what's going on.
If CNI leaves me high and dry after $1000 in; after claiming their lasers are 100% legal and have accession numbers (I know, I know, Wicked has claimed this too, and lied) - I *hope* that I can tell them that if they don't make this right, the entire forum will know. I know NOBODY wants to lose CNI as a resource - I was just about to wire them another $900 to ship another (other wavelength) PGL to me, today! -- I'm holding off on that until this is resolved (if it's ever resolved.)
I'm sure there are some folks who could give some insight into this, here, on the forum. I hope, at least.
But I have a feeling due to Wicked's recent shennanigans, the FDA is clamping down tightly on anything and everything that says "laser" on it.
CNI claims on their website:
CNI' s handheld Class IIIb lasers incorporate a 5-point safety system which includes an aperture shutter, key switch, indicator LED, interlock, and output delay. We have obtained FDA accession numbers for all of our products to be shipped into the United States.
(Located on this page: --> Laser pointer, handheld laser, 473 nm blue, 532 nm green, yellow, red portable laser. )
However, today, I got a call from DHL, mid-shipment, with them frantic about getting my Tax ID #, SSN# and a "FDA Form 2877" (example here: http://www.pbb.com/en/tools/trade_documentation_tools/usa_documents/FDA2877-Fillable.pdf ) in order to deliver the laser. Saying they cannot do so without it.
One of the options on that form is, basically, "Yes, this laser has an Accession # on file."
Searching, now, however, I can't find a reference to PGL-III-C having an accession # anywhere. This does not bode well.
Now, this is the PGL-III-C, with the safety requirements as described above. It's not sold as a pointer. Basically, it hits all the marks. CNI claims they have accession numbers -- so this laser should be perfectly legal to import, right?
The only thing I wonder is -- a lot of companies in China tend to be - to say the least - a little bit less honest than they should be.
CNI has a great reputation in this forum, and my situation is (due to my damned luck) - the only such thing that I've ever seen happen here.
My primary worry: A) I'm probably not going to get the laser. and, B) I'm not so sure that CNI is about to wire my money back to me for the thing. (Fat chance on that. But maybe their reputation IS deserved and maybe they will.)
Secondarily: Could the FDA go back through shipping records and demand all of my lasers. Who knows. I suppose it's possible at this point.
I was alwaws a proponent of ordering the lasers with the 5-point safety systems and staying as compliant as humanly possible. Ordering from CNI, I *thought*, as stated on their website, that these lasers all have accession numbers and are perfectly legal to import.
Either CNI fudged up their paperwork (Which seems strange, with how many of these they export to the US) - or... there is no accession number.
Does anyone have any information to the contrary? I saw "cnilasers" post on the forum just a few days ago, encouraging people to buy directly from them. I'd love to see them step up right now and help out with what's happening here, or explain what's going on.
If CNI leaves me high and dry after $1000 in; after claiming their lasers are 100% legal and have accession numbers (I know, I know, Wicked has claimed this too, and lied) - I *hope* that I can tell them that if they don't make this right, the entire forum will know. I know NOBODY wants to lose CNI as a resource - I was just about to wire them another $900 to ship another (other wavelength) PGL to me, today! -- I'm holding off on that until this is resolved (if it's ever resolved.)
I'm sure there are some folks who could give some insight into this, here, on the forum. I hope, at least.
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