Should canned posts be allowed?

ARG · Mar 11, 2013

Please vote in the poll above.

Recently there has been a lot of copy and pasted message around the forum, specifically in the welcome section in an effort increase post count or get more traffic to links in the posters signature.

Do you think LPF should allow these copy & pasted (canned) messages?
Please vote in the poll above & discuss.

spyrorocks · Mar 11, 2013

Also, this:

The "you can contact us anytime" stuff belongs in a signature, not copy and pasted into the end of every post. The forum database should be purged of that line. I have no idea why it is copy and pasted into every post anyways when its so much easier and cleaner to add it to a signature where it belongs.

scumbagatheist · Mar 11, 2013

ARG, I could use an example of what you mean. But, in general, I vote to keep the forum as uncluttered as possible. I even have threads that are now irrelevant, and I'd love to be able to delete those and save some space of the servers for others.

Thanks for listening.

lasersbee · Mar 11, 2013

ARGLaser said:
Please vote in the poll above.

Recently there has been a lot of copy and pasted message around the forum, specifically in the welcome section in an effort increase post count or get more traffic to links in the posters signature.

Do you think LPF should allow these copy & pasted (canned) messages?
Please vote in the poll above & discuss.

All this because I welcome new members with the info
they need to get started with when you yourself were
not even interested in doing so...

And this coming from a member who wants to compete
with our LaserBee products and claims that his old
LaserBee II is off by 12%...

I wonder if there is a hidden agenda....

BTW... since everyone already knows my name perhaps
you should open another Poll to stop me signing my posts...:crackup:

Jerry

ARG · Mar 11, 2013

lasersbee said:
All this because I welcome new members with the info
they need to get started with when you yourself were
not even interested in doing so...

And this coming from a member who wants to compete
with our LaserBee products and claims that his old
LaserBee II is off by 12%...

I wonder if there is a hidden agenda....

BTW... since everyone already knows my name perhaps
you should open another Poll to stop me signing my posts...:crackup:

This thread is not about one person Jerry. There have been several members doing this, both recently and not recently, but I wont name anyone.

If you want to discuss LPM's lets keep that in the laser measurement section (which by the way you haven't replied to the comments/questions direct at you there) There is already 2 threads about my inaccuracy claims, (which I believe to be accurate) lets keep this thread on topic and free of LPM discussion, there's an entire sub forum made for LPM discussion. I would appreciate it if that would would like to discuss LPM's you post in the correct section.

I have no agenda other than the desire to de-clutter LPF and prevent people from spamming to increase their post count or advertise links in their signature, nothing more.

Edit:

Speedy78 · Mar 11, 2013

People looking for an LPM will come across the Laserbee way more frequently than anything else. I had to do some digging when I was shopping around for others. There is no need to blast every new person with flashy banners to promote your product. That is what your doing right? I feel I can assume that since you're always making assumptions about everyone else. The reason I don't own a Laserbee is that very attitude you display in nearly all your posts towards non Laserbee products.

InfinitusEquitas · Mar 11, 2013

scumbagatheist said:
ARG, I could use an example of what you mean.

Posts exactly like this, hundreds of them:

lasersbee said:
to the Forum....
Don't forget to read the FAQs...the Stickies
and the Forum Rules..
http://laserpointerforums.com/tou.htm

If you plan on buying anything on the Forum....
PLEASE read this first...

6 Steps To Prevent You From Getting Scammed

and PLEASE don't forget to read to this....

39 Reasons NOT to Buy From Wicked Lasers

If you do get a Laser or already have one be sure
to get appropriate Laser Safety Goggles/Glasses...

Get Some Safety Goggles Now!

Don't forget to put your location in your Profile if you
haven't yet done so. This way we know where you
are from.

Enjoy your stay...

Jerry

You can contact us at any time on our Website: J.BAUER Electronics

Yes, there useful information in there... just as there is in the stickies also in the welcome section, and other forum sub sections.

Since most of the copy/paste posts are identical, I don't feel they should be permitted.

I'm not opposed to a partially canned message, but when there is nothing unique to differentiate one from the next, and there is a product advertisement in EVERY SINGLE ONE, that is basically spam.

Edit: Updated link in spam portion to something more appropriate.

123splat · Mar 11, 2013

Doesn't look too hidden to me Jerry.

Equitas: exactly HOW would you change the delivered message in a 'canned' post?

InfinitusEquitas · Mar 11, 2013

I would make it at least slightly unique to each new member, if possible.

For example someone mentions that they are also into flashlights, tell them about a flashlight forum, and direct them to that section of our forum.

Someone is a machinist, tell them about the great machinists we have in the community, maybe link them to an example of ehgemus, or sinner, or mcrmouse's work.

Someone asks what's the most powerful, show them ARG's 4.9W dual diode build.

Someone is from texas, chicago, new york, belgium, uk, or other place, tell them that there are other members in the area.

What I wouldn't do is paste the same exact message.

Basically take more than three seconds to hit ctrl+c, ctrl+v, and submit.

After that, a canned part, with say links to a few critical stickies, is fine imo.

ARG · Mar 11, 2013

Agreed IE. Partially canned messages that are personalized and tailored to each member are fine, but telling a vendor why not to buy from a certain company is just silly.

jArdi · Mar 11, 2013

I havent read the entire thread yet, but How about disable post count in all unrelated forums? Like Off-topic general and the Welcome section?

InfinitusEquitas · Mar 11, 2013

It's not really a post count issue imo... if you want ask c0ld to take 1000 from me and to give to you

I just don't like seeing the same exact message over and over.

@ARGLaser - actually where WL is concerned, I don't mind seeing that message - having it seen by new members, but it is already a sticky. :undecided:

ARG · Mar 11, 2013

It's not only about post count, there are some members who also post to increase tradffic or awareness to links in their signatures.

scumbagatheist · Mar 11, 2013

While we are at it, maybe we can encourage some of the members with exceedingly LONG signatures with multiple links, font colors, sizes, etc. I get people trying to convey a message, but how about the most pertinent, recent, urgent info, etc only....It's getting tacky and makes for a less enjoyable interface.

sinner · Mar 11, 2013

Well tbh this should be taken into question, There will be injustice to all those who were banned for this very reason.

So, as the great legend Mr. Al Pacino says , "..And Justice for all"

:beer:

InfinitusEquitas · Mar 11, 2013

I find myself blocking banners, pictures, and annoying avatars all the time, using adblock.

There is a character limit for signatures, but it doesn't seem to apply to older signatures, or to picture sizes, and certainly not to font sizes.

Edit: The ones banned so far, were usually truly spammers. LB does pay for advertising in signature, and the banner ads.

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