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Old 09-05-2013, 07:28 PM #81
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Such as...?

Also, I don't see where the FDA is saying that "all battery-operated lasers are now considered SLA lasers, regardless of purpose." Can you point that out to me?
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It doesn't the FDA is making shit up again against its legislature. Like most gov agencies....oh wait...this is nothing new
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I see. So all this fuss is over an imaginary change to the regulations
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Such as...?

Also, I don't see where the FDA is saying that "all battery-operated lasers are now considered SLA lasers, regardless of purpose." Can you point that out to me?
Well to name 2 there is Survival Lasers and Optotronics.
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See this thread. FDA proposes changes to US regs, including restricting children's laser toys

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I see. So all this fuss is over an imaginary change to the regulations
partly its about perception they want results ...like right now
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My understanding is the rules haven't changed at all, what has is the FDA's interpretation of the same rules. An import ban is usually the fore-runner of a possession ban.

In a country where assault weapons can be privately owned, where massive power handguns are normal...the protectors of the people want to enforce a ban on an item that in all of history has never been shown to be used in a crime to cause harm?
Somebody is actually getting paid to think this shit up!

Strangely enough , there are now hype stories in the UK press about Princess Diana's car being caused to crash by a "blinding device or hand held laser".

Anybody want to PM me an address I can send a crappy 1-2mW laser pen to in the US to see if it gets seized? (I'll put 25mW on the CN42 declaration)

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Unless my very expensive (and unhappy lawyer who just had to wake up to answer the phone) is totally wrong this reads as a "provocative" to ban sales INSIDE the US as well.
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Thanks for the insight. I'm *really* glad i bought my 589 when I did because right now there's exactly a snowball's chance in hell I'd risk spending $700+ on a laser that'll likely get seized by customs now. If I was in the current CNI GB I'd be thinking twice about buying now.
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Hmm... fair point. This just got a whole lot harder...
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@LtKernelPanic, I am concerned about the CNI GB, I PMed WBS about any safeguards he has in place for such an event, have not heard back. I don't know what I'd do if I were responsible for that many people's money and the package was taken

I'm even more concerned because I still have an RPL 500mW 532 by optotronics being refurbished, $900, viasho is taking forever. Maybe it would be wise to wait till near Christmas time when there may be too many packages going around to check em all
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Anything you already own that is being fixed is not subject to customs as its already imported goods.
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But I never had it yet, and it's being fixed outside the U.S.
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Well I wish you luck either way
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Best of luck... we're about to see just how hard the FDA is cracking down
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