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Old 03-11-2010, 09:10 PM   #1
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Default Pandawill 50mW "keychain"

Hi guys! I don´t want to loose much time on this review, but I decided to do one, cause there were some people in the past, interested in the company `Pandawill´, especially in their 50-100mW keychain greenies. I bought the >>50mW keychain<< to show you what you can expect…

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I didn´t get the laser I´ve ordered
Anyway...


Shipping
- paid on 14. February - recieved on 11. March (26 days)
- Came in case
- no shipping costs

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- 2x 1,5V AAA batteries
- Star cap

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- ~25mW output, peaks at 27,3mW
- 16.5cm in length, 1.2cm in diameter
- Middle-opened

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On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 6:37 PM
Hello,
is my item still on the way?

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On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:22 AM
Hello, thanks for your letter , and yes,due to there are more than 500 orders, so it takes us a while to process them , your understanding is much appreciated
nice day!
Compared to 30mW greenies
- Pandawill: $12.99
- Laserlands: $18.00 (without shipping)
- Dealextreme: $18.25


Conclusio
After reading the descripton to the laser, I was sure not to get a keychain. Haven´t seen a 16.5cm keychain yet lol. But the price is fine and I would recommend the laser to everyone who want to buy their first greenie or want a cheap star pen.
I´m going to contact Pandawill if they have 532nm keychains and post the answer here ASAP.
Thank you for reading and I hope that I could help a few of you!



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got my laser today (Pandawill.com : Others : 2 in1 Green Laser Pointer & Kaleidoscopic morphing Effects Pen 50mW :)
It is NOT the laser I´ve ordered! I already have this laser and don´t need it. I was looking to recieving the 50mW keychain laser! Second thing is that the output isn´t 50mW, it is only 25mW! I tested it on my professional laserpowermeter (value*correction factor 1.63). Pics attached!

There are two options:
First is that I send you the laserpointer back and you refund me the money I´ve paid for the pen+shipping costs to you. Second option is that you refund me half of the price ($6.50).


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Hello, our apologizes for late response . and i aslo compared the pen with another pen we have, they look the samilar. so i think that caused the confusion to my colleague. Acturally speaking , this should not happend , as it will cause a lot of troubles . Again , we do apologizes for the troubles it may caused
and i will do what i can do to get it resolved for you at my position. due to this item does not take my profit at all, so we can refund you USD 3.4. and at the same time , i can creat you a code with the 5% discount for your next purchasing , this will be valid for one year. is that ok?
any differente ideas , please let me know.
nice day!
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Old 03-11-2010, 09:22 PM   #2
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Cool. So you got a pointer of half the power of what you ordered lol?
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Old 03-11-2010, 09:27 PM   #3
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cool. So you got a pointer of half the power of what you ordered lol?
Right!
It wasn´t expensive, cheapest 20-30mW kaleidoscopic) and I´m sure I can sell it to a friend of mine

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mmhhh... i am thinking to order the 100mw version of keychain laser.....

i emailed pandawill 2 times.. and 2 times they told me they are SURE to sell true 100mw laser. i told them i have a laser power meter.... -_-

maybe your is only an error. but seems that is not very accurate the description. DID YOU NOTICE that every star laser in reality in photo is a SINGLE BEAM laser with an optional star lense to put on the head? (not with screw...like yours)

your laser seems like my DISCo dance pen.... different only in the front disco cap. but the threads seems compatible....
the FIRT laser DISCO "PEN" style+ pics and video

look 2nd pics... i think my head is compatible with your.

ah..DJNY..... can you help me to find the right menu on pandawill there to find ALAL lasers? if i go toto HOME AND GARDEN > TOYS... i can only see some lasers but not all lasers. for all i did not found any menu
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2- 30mw kaleidoscopic laser from DX...about 1mrad,very STABLE in power(also for 5 minutes wow),i think true 30 if not a little more.it goes far 4/5 kilometers!!
3- 50mw bottle shape from FOCAL...1.2 mrad, not estimated power 40/60mw in winter. 20/30 in summer ;(. nice design.
4- 80mw bluray PEN from olike, NEGATIVE divergence focus point at about 2meter (good) and divergence of LESS THAN 0.5mrad for sure.

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...and i "suggest" you to get a little refund by pandawill. like 3$.... because also dealextreme or focalprice ...discont lasers if underpowered. i remember 2 laser that focalprice discounted a bit.... giving me about 4 or 5 $ of bonus in my next purchase stay up!
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1- red dilda 200mw from olike ( tested 195mw) 0.5 mrad!.
2- 30mw kaleidoscopic laser from DX...about 1mrad,very STABLE in power(also for 5 minutes wow),i think true 30 if not a little more.it goes far 4/5 kilometers!!
3- 50mw bottle shape from FOCAL...1.2 mrad, not estimated power 40/60mw in winter. 20/30 in summer ;(. nice design.
4- 80mw bluray PEN from olike, NEGATIVE divergence focus point at about 2meter (good) and divergence of LESS THAN 0.5mrad for sure.
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Just type "laser" into the search. They can´t guarantee for the output of their lasers because they are just resellers. I won´t expect that anything there is nearly up-to-spec! But IMO the price relation is still ok for what you recieve.
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ok but they guaranteed me that i CAN TEST the lasers ..... why tell me this thing?

mmhhh... the 1xaaa keychain 50mw is only 12$ but the 100mw version i qould buy is 20!!!so even if you receive a 30mw for your 50mw is ok.. but if i receive a 40 mw pen for 20$ is not so good! i hope that IF i receive an underpowered laser they can DISCOUNT it .....

however... it is STRANGE that they do not have a specific menu for lasers...... can someone HELP us?
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1- red dilda 200mw from olike ( tested 195mw) 0.5 mrad!.
2- 30mw kaleidoscopic laser from DX...about 1mrad,very STABLE in power(also for 5 minutes wow),i think true 30 if not a little more.it goes far 4/5 kilometers!!
3- 50mw bottle shape from FOCAL...1.2 mrad, not estimated power 40/60mw in winter. 20/30 in summer ;(. nice design.
4- 80mw bluray PEN from olike, NEGATIVE divergence focus point at about 2meter (good) and divergence of LESS THAN 0.5mrad for sure.

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As I mentioned in the "pandawill" thread in the company section, they don´t have high powered 532nm keychains!! I´m sorry for all those who were interested in them. I´m glad that I bought it and dour contact them before many others here fall for them!
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excuse me .... but... who did you say that pandawill does not sell for example the 50 or 100mw keychain pen 1xaaa?.... i emailed them and they told yes......
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2- 30mw kaleidoscopic laser from DX...about 1mrad,very STABLE in power(also for 5 minutes wow),i think true 30 if not a little more.it goes far 4/5 kilometers!!
3- 50mw bottle shape from FOCAL...1.2 mrad, not estimated power 40/60mw in winter. 20/30 in summer ;(. nice design.
4- 80mw bluray PEN from olike, NEGATIVE divergence focus point at about 2meter (good) and divergence of LESS THAN 0.5mrad for sure.
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excuse me .... but... who did you say that pandawill does not sell for example the 50 or 100mw keychain pen 1xaaa?.... i emailed them and they told yes......
I´ve talked A LOT to them and every time I asked about the keychain, they punt or switched the topic. But if you still think that they sell 50mW/100mW keychain pens after you read about my experiences with them, it is not my problem when you expect and buy "the keychain" and end up disappointed.
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mmhhh... i am thinking to order the 100mw version of keychain laser.....

ah..DJNY..... can you help me to find the right menu on pandawill there to find ALAL lasers? if i go toto HOME AND GARDEN > TOYS... i can only see some lasers but not all lasers. for all i did not found any menu
Hi, realista, you now can find a "Laser pointer" in "consumer electronics" on Pandawill.com.

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Hi guys! I don´t want to loose much time on this review, but I decided to do one, cause there were some people in the past, interested in the company `Pandawill´, especially in their 50-100mW keychain greenies. I bought the >>50mW keychain<< to show you what you can expect…
Hi, DJNY, ths for your excellent reviews on Pandawill.com. I have read your words very carefully, though you wrote it for Pandawill users here, but i really got a lot from your nice advice, very orderly and creditable.

We have modified the output of Laser Pointer,and we are going to get a tool just like your laserpowermeter. Also, we now supply $5 coupon code for users. when you check out, just fill "laser" into the coupon blank. This coupone can be used 10 times.

For shipping term of Pandawill.com, you now can check on:Pandawill Shipping Terms


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Hi, DJNY, ths for your excellent reviews on Pandawill.com. I have read your words very carefully, though you wrote it for Pandawill users here, but i really got a lot from your nice advice, very orderly and creditable.

We have modified the output of Laser Pointer,and we are going to get a tool just like your laserpowermeter. Also, we now supply $5 coupon code for users. when you check out, just fill "laser" into the coupon blank. This coupone can be used 10 times.

For shipping term of Pandawill.com, you now can check on:Pandawill Shipping Terms


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It´s always a good idea to get a laserpowermeter and they aren´t that expensive if you´re a LPF-member. You should buy one from the member "lasersbee".

I like the coupon idea. Good luck for the future!
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I have the Pandawill 50mW key chain and the 5mW Keychain......
They are nice....The 50mW have grey finish and the 5mW a black finish......
The 50mW is bright the same as a pot mod kaleidoscopic laser 30mW with 2 AAA batts i've pot modded who's very bright(from o-like or beamcheap i'm not sure anymore) . Black tape or something will smoke al tiny little but not very easy (50mW, alkaline battery)
Cons: You need full battery .If not the green light don't start up easily...
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so.. the 50mw is TRUE 50....almost in your case.
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3- 50mw bottle shape from FOCAL...1.2 mrad, not estimated power 40/60mw in winter. 20/30 in summer ;(. nice design.
4- 80mw bluray PEN from olike, NEGATIVE divergence focus point at about 2meter (good) and divergence of LESS THAN 0.5mrad for sure.
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I bought a 50w keychain from Pandawill,the quality of the keychain is pretty good,in the last two days I bought a laser pointer pen.tell a truth the products from pandawill is very rich.I will show my laser pointer pen to you.

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i think you work in pandawill XD
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2- 30mw kaleidoscopic laser from DX...about 1mrad,very STABLE in power(also for 5 minutes wow),i think true 30 if not a little more.it goes far 4/5 kilometers!!
3- 50mw bottle shape from FOCAL...1.2 mrad, not estimated power 40/60mw in winter. 20/30 in summer ;(. nice design.
4- 80mw bluray PEN from olike, NEGATIVE divergence focus point at about 2meter (good) and divergence of LESS THAN 0.5mrad for sure.
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