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Old 07-31-2010, 01:49 AM   #1
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Default 1.2W DIY 445nm in Spyder II host

I've had an old Spyder II host sitting around, collecting dust so I decided to turn it into a nice 445nm laser.
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Safety was my main concern while building the laser. As you can see I bought a pair of certified OD 7+ 190-532nm safety goggles from Nova Lasers (link). I also wanted to make sure everyone else knew that this was NOT a toy, so I made some custom warning labels using a method similar to the one described here (link).


However, because I was going to be wearing OD 7+ safety goggles when using the laser, I added a red status LED (red so that it can be seen through the safety goggles).


If a picture is worth one thousand words than a video must be worth a million. The video shows the laser burning matches (the easy way and the hard way), cutting match sticks in half, lighting white paper on fire, burning through thick and thin CD cases, cutting electrical tape, popping balloons, and igniting fuse.


The power peaks at 1.35W in ideal temperatures, but is usually 1.2W on hot summer days like today. For the power reading, I used Nospin's excellent meter (link) which uses an Ophir 20C-A thermopile.


Here's a video of the output over 3 minutes:


Now on to the details. I bought 3 445nm diodes. 1 A130 from daguin, 1 A140 from daguin, and 1 A140 from HIMNL9. I tested each of these diodes at the same current (1A) to see which one outputted the most power. The A130 output about 1W at 1A, the A140 from daguin output about 1.1W at 1A, and the A140 from HIMNL9 output 1.2W at 1A. For this build I chose the A140 diode from HIMNL9. My experiences with the Casio 445nm diodes has been great. I highly suggest everyone buy at least one to play around with.

For the heatsink I had jayrob machine a custom one just for me. Thanks jayrob! He did an excellent job.


The AixiZ module was held in the heatsink by some thermal grease and a set screw. The heatsink was held in the host by a plastic retaining nut.


For the lens I chose jayrob's 405-G-1 (link). I filed down the threads of the aperture, and glued to lens in the aperture hole to create a focus adapter so I didn't burn my fingers.




When screwed into the AixiZ module, this is what it looks like when focused to infinity.

And when focused for burning.


For the driver I chose drlava's flexdrive set at 1.1A (link). It was extremely easy to heatsink to the hosts existing internal heatsink using some arctic silver thermal grease.

For the positive battery contact I tore apart an old clicky tail switch from an MXDL host, and used its springs and plastic nut which happened to be perfect for an 18650 sized host, such as the Spyder II. A small driver, such as drlava's flexdrive can be glued inside the plastic nut. For the status LED I cut a small hole in the plastic nut, and soldered a 100 ohm resistor to the spring and LED.
Here's an exploded view of an MXDL's clickly tailswitch (I used the 3rd and last object).

Here's what it looks like when it's all put together (The driver is inside the hollow plastic nut and the LED is facing the other way. It's very compact!).


The spring, nut, driver, led combination fits perfectly into the host. It's held in with a couple dabs of hot glue.


The Spyder II host takes one 18650 battery and uses a clicky switch in the back.


Here's an 18650 battery next to the host for a size comparison.


Here's a photo of what the 'dot' looks like at 62 feet. It is 80mm in length and 2-5mm tall.


Last but not least, here are some beam shots. Remember that it's very hard to capture the true color of the laser on camera. Also, the beam color in real life looks very different depending on the person; it looks purple to me, but blue to others).

A couple long exposure shots.



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Old 07-31-2010, 02:02 AM   #2
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Default Re: 1.2W DIY 445nm in Spyder II host

Yeah beam always looks a little purple to me. Maybe im just quite sensitive to 405 and im seeing the more violet "component" of the wavelength, not that it has an actual component.
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Awesome......makes me want to disassemble my spyder for this
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Incredible build, +1 rep
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Quite a ***y build there. I like
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I've been doing some testing here. 1.2 Watts on a hot day !!? At what current and for how long ? Did the power hold up for more than a few seconds?

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I've been doing some testing here. 1.2 Watts on a hot day !!? At what current and for how long ? Did the power hold up for more than a few seconds?

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The current is around 1.1A. I never keep the laser on for too long. Usually only 1 to 2 minutes max. The power stays very steady for those 2 minutes.
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Holy crap, what a line! At 62 feet??
I wonder if it's possible to take a dragonlasers 400mw "corrected beam" and up the power?
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Holy crap, what a line! At 62 feet??
I wonder if it's possible to take a dragonlasers 400mw "corrected beam" and up the power?
Ya it's a very large line I'm planning on using drlava's beam correcting optics in an attachment which would screw onto the front. That should make the length go from 80mm (uncorrected) to 15mm (corrected).
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WOW --
I can't get 1.2 Watts at that current unless TEC cooled to under 20 deg C.!!!!
WOW !

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I can't get 1.2 Watts at that current unless TEC cooled to under 20 deg C.!!!!
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That's odd. I can't re-check the current because I don't want to cut/de-solder the wires going to the diode. However I did pick the best diode out of the 3 I have. How many diodes have you tested?
Also, is there a way to calculate the current draw of the diode by measuring the current draw and voltage from the battery?
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There are sooo many variables in this that who cares???:-) Diode efficiency appears to peak around 20.5% and the driver is your guess. This is a hobby and there is no real correlation between meters and 10% would be good.
It is hard for me to believe that you get that power for almost one minute in "hot conditions" when I'm using TEC to get almost there.
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Wow, would ya look at that. That is one wide beam!
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Thank you for the contribution ------------------ one more post for you.

I don't think my beam was that wide at ~ 50' with my first tests. I'm using a 405-g-1 lens for my standard at present.
How big is your heatsink in oz. ? Mine without TEC is 1.1 Oz. and I can't get over 950 mW at your current but my room temp was 25.3 Deg C. That can make a difference - especially at 1 minute on time.

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Thank you for the contribution ------------------ one more post for you.

I don't think my beam was that wide at ~ 50' with my first tests. I'm using a 405-g-1 lens for my standard at present.
How big is your heatsink in oz. ? Mine without TEC is 1.1 Oz. and I can't get over 950 mW at your current but my room temp was 25.3 Deg C. That can make a difference - especially at 1 minute on time.

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Is that fluid Oz, or mass Oz? I don't know the mass of the heatsink, but I know it's about 23467 mm^3 (millimeters cubed). The heatsink is aluminum. However, there is also a large internal aluminum heatsink which is physically part of the host. The heatsink which jayrob made is attached to the existing internal heatsink in the host with thermal grease.

Here's a diagram of the heatsink: http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/548...inkdiagram.png
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