Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser

jieff111 · 09-30-2010, 08:24 AM

evidence:Review of $170.00 445nm Lvyi Electronics Laser

Artificial damage can be covered by warranty. You have taken apart the electronic circuit. It’s not reasonable to blame on us for the fault. We had given a strict check before we sent. So now it’s not sure if the laser tube is burnt or not. You send to us, and we’ll repair it after we receive. If the tube will be burnt, of course you should cover the fee. We’ll only charge you the cost 50 $. And where the fault is? You can ask others to tell their opinions. Now it’s not sure if the laser tube is burnt or not. It can be sure after I receive, if the tube wouldn’t be broken, we’ll offer you free maintenance.

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Everybody, come and express your view, now some guys on this forum gave us harsh time deliberately, hoping us to die. But I tell you, we’re really upset. If we didn’t fix the price of 1W 445nm at 170 $, you won’t enjoy this favorable. Now the price of new-coming model 445nm will be close to 300$. I really feel some guys are bitch, who want to buy the same thing with double price. We don’t have any other choice, and meanwhile we also get this feeling in these days. Pitch! So we don’t want to say anything. Recently one competitor came to ask me, why I sell at such a low price at 170$, which influences the price-setting of the entire international market, and I think he was right. So if some guys are bitches, why we have to keep such a low price?
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We’ve sent another complete new 1W 445nm laser to BERNI. Of course we don’t have any fault. The product has been checked strictly before we sent it. He must have taken apart the electric circuit. We don’t earn one coin in this transaction and we lost a lot. We accept, and someone, please shut up your pitch mouth

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EE070263088CN www.ems.com.cn

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Let’s calculate the cost: the freight from here to Israel is 30$, the cost of 1w 445nm is 65$. Layer eye 20$, charger 5$. And now we sent a complete new one to him, and we covered the freight. We accepted. BERNI, it’s up to your personal quality, if you think you are a good guy as we are, please send us back the broken one. Even if you don’t want, it’s ok. What important is to figure one guy out! We only don’t hope the guys on this forum to come to buy our products. We don’t care at all. Thanks. Please don’t come to buy, never! So those guys who want to give us harsh time, please shut up your mouth, because your target has been reached. We’re honest, and do business step by step. Our products have been always checked seriously before we send them. Just because some guys are pitched, and I agree with my competitors, you foreign guys are silly, who want to buy one thing by double price. Money is easy to earn. Really!

Tech_Junkie · 09-30-2010, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jieff111

Artificial damage can be covered by warranty. You have taken apart the electronic circuit. It’s not reasonable to blame on us for the fault. We had given a strict check before we sent. So now it’s not sure if the laser tube is burnt or not. You send to us, and we’ll repair it after we receive. If the tube will be burnt, of course you should cover the fee. We’ll only charge you the cost 50 $. And where the fault is? You can ask others to tell their opinions. Now it’s not sure if the laser tube is burnt or not. It can be sure after I receive, if the tube wouldn’t be broken, we’ll offer you free maintenance.

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The death of a Jetlaser

Read that. Jetlaser has said they will help DontLaseMeBro and fix his laser for free. This, my friend, it a good laser company. Your laser company is crap, period. You have been black balled by us. By keep posting you make it easy for us to keep putting your company in the toilet. Thank you.

John7788 · 09-30-2010, 08:51 AM

what on earth happened?
But your customer service sytem will be the right place for the thread

Tech_Junkie · 09-30-2010, 08:58 AM

We tried to help him with some of the issues of his 1W 445nm laser. He got extremely mad, and defensive. Started call us 'foreigners' and that he didnt need or want help. We caught him in a few lies, he has a bad attitude, and acts like a child. He even threatened me, LOL.

I think they need to find a new person to talk for the company. Because he is rude, not honest, and has done nothing but complain the whole time. He even acted like he was doing us a favor selling lasers to us. I'm surprised he is not banned yet.

Pilgor · 09-30-2010, 09:03 AM

jief111, I think you should take what dignity you have left and just leave LPF alone before you get banned.

John7788 · 09-30-2010, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jieff111

evidence:Review of $170.00 445nm Lvyi Electronics Laser

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Everybody, come and express your view, now some guys on this forum gave us harsh time deliberately, hoping us to die. But I tell you, we’re really upset. If we didn’t fix the price of 1W 445nm at 170 $, you won’t enjoy this favorable. Now the price of new-coming model 445nm will be close to 300$. I really feel some guys are bitch, who want to buy the same thing with double price. We don’t have any other choice, and meanwhile we also get this feeling in these days. Pitch! So we don’t want to say anything. Recently one competitor came to ask me, why I sell at such a low price at 170$, which influences the price-setting of the entire international market, and I think he was right. So if some guys are bitches, why we have to keep such a low price?

Hello,
jieff, if you describe your reason in a right way, with impartial words, more people will listen to you, but now I'm afraid if anyone of LPF will support you for your insult.
.

Blu lase · 09-30-2010, 09:16 AM

Well Hqvent been around that long but clearly I can see he has a major attitude towards LPF which is not healthy. Especially if he plans to plug a product on here. He's lost me just with that message and I have no idea what he's selling

Blulase

Berni · 09-30-2010, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jieff111

evidence:Review of $170.00 445nm Lvyi Electronics Laser

[Artificial damage can be covered by warranty. You have taken apart the electronic circuit. It’s not reasonable to blame on us for the fault. We had given a strict check before we sent. So now it’s not sure if the laser tube is burnt or not. You send to us, and we’ll repair it after we receive. If the tube will be burnt, of course you should cover the fee. We’ll only charge you the cost 50 $. And where the fault is? You can ask others to tell their opinions. Now it’s not sure if the laser tube is burnt or not. It can be sure after I receive, if the tube wouldn’t be broken, we’ll offer you free maintenance.

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Everybody, come and express your view, now some guys on this forum gave us harsh time deliberately, hoping us to die. But I tell you, we’re really upset. If we didn’t fix the price of 1W 445nm at 170 $, you won’t enjoy this favorable. Now the price of new-coming model 445nm will be close to 300$. I really feel some guys are bitch, who want to buy the same thing with double price. We don’t have any other choice, and meanwhile we also get this feeling in these days. Pitch! So we don’t want to say anything. Recently one competitor came to ask me, why I sell at such a low price at 170$, which influences the price-setting of the entire international market, and I think he was right. So if some guys are bitches, why we have to keep such a low price?
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We’ve sent another complete new 1W 445nm laser to BERNI. Of course we don’t have any fault. The product has been checked strictly before we sent it. He must have taken apart the electric circuit. We don’t earn one coin in this transaction and we lost a lot. We accept, and someone, please shut up your pitch mouth

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Let’s calculate the cost: the freight from here to Israel is 30$, the cost of 1w 445nm is 65$. Layer eye 20$, charger 5$. And now we sent a complete new one to him, and we covered the freight. We accepted. BERNI, it’s up to your personal quality, if you think you are a good guy as we are, please send us back the broken one. Even if you don’t want, it’s ok. What important is to figure one guy out! We only don’t hope the guys on this forum to come to buy our products. We don’t care at all. Thanks. Please don’t come to buy, never! So those guys who want to give us harsh time, please shut up your mouth, because your target has been reached. We’re honest, and do business step by step. Our products have been always checked seriously before we send them. Just because some guys are pitched, and I agree with my competitors, you foreign guys are silly, who want to buy one thing by double price. Money is easy to earn. Really!

Jieff111 / lvyizhongguo something is wrong with you !!

You inform on this forum that you sent me another complete new 1W 445nm laser, good. BUT in private (5 identiques mails) you ask :

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dear friend from iserl,
i'm lvyilaser.i'm sorry i have sent air mailed package to you in a mistake way by EMS. i hope you not to accept it. in that way, it will return back. thanks

P.S. : About your package, you have send it to Israel the 09/15/2010.
Are your sure that this laser is for me !!! because I asked you for garanty repair only the 09/28/2010.

jieff111 · 09-30-2010, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berni

jieff111 / lvyizhongguo something is wrong with you !!

You inform on this forum that you sent me another complete new 1w 445nm laser, good. But in private (5 identiques mails) you ask :

Ee070263088cn öð¹úóêõþ¼¯íå¹«ë¾
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dear friend from iserl,
i'm lvyilaser.i'm sorry i have sent air mailed package to you in a mistake way by ems. I hope you not to accept it. In that way, it will return back. Thanks

p.s. : About your package, you have send it to israel the 09/15/2010.
Are your sure that this laser is for me !!! Because i asked you for garanty repair only the 09/28/2010.

你想说明什么，真是个垃圾，下次滚到其他地方买，垃圾，得了便宜还卖关，有本事不签收

jieff111 · 09-30-2010, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech_junkie

we tried to help him with some of the issues of his 1w 445nm laser. He got extremely mad, and defensive. Started call us 'foreigners' and that he didnt need or want help. We caught him in a few lies, he has a bad attitude, and acts like a child. He even threatened me, lol.

I think they need to find a new person to talk for the company. Because he is rude, not honest, and has done nothing but complain the whole time. He even acted like he was doing us a favor selling lasers to us. I'm surprised he is not banned yet.

神经病院出来的狗杂种，我看你在这里针对过多少中国商家，傻b一个，从来不吃你这一套，用这个的头像就知道人有多少猥琐

jieff111 · 09-30-2010, 11:15 AM

有些老外就是贱，不讲道理，

Berni · 09-30-2010, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jieff111

有些老外就是贱，不讲道理，

LOL... I am sorry, i don't understand chinese !!
Only french or english please.

blue lasers · 09-30-2010, 12:13 PM

What are you trying to, really rubbish, other places to buy the next roll, garbage, had also sold off cheap, have the ability to not sign

Crazy bastard out of hospital, I see you are here for the number of Chinese businessmen, silly b one, do not eat you this set, the picture with this person to know how many wretched

Some foreigners are cheap, unreasonable

EDIT: translate of Chinese in order from first to last

lasersbee · 09-30-2010, 02:15 PM

Well that solves that problem.... BANNED...
Sounded like a Chinese BobH....

Jerry

daguin · 09-30-2010, 03:15 PM

I hope he actually shipped you something, Berni

I don't think he will be welcomed back here again.

Peace,
dave

lasersbee · 09-30-2010, 03:29 PM

Well he is back.....

[EDIT]
Oops... that didn't take long...

Jerry

00Giorge · 09-30-2010, 05:44 PM

WOW! What an asshole! He deserved to be

I hope I don't have any problems with my laser!

Berni I really hope he sent you another laser!

Jeff

Tech_Junkie · 10-01-2010, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lasersbee

Sounded like a Chinese BobH....

Jerry

LOLOLOLOLOL

I have the talent to bring out the best in people.

00Giorge · 10-01-2010, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech_Junkie

LOLOLOLOLOL

I have the talent to bring out the best in people.

OH, he love you long time!

Toke · 10-01-2010, 02:55 AM

The sad part is that he is quite likely wondering why people here are so evil and will not buy his lasers.

Tech_Junkie · 10-01-2010, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toke

The sad part is that he is quite likely wondering why people here are so evil and will not buy his lasers.

1. Quality support.
2. Product quality.
3. Customer service.

They fail on all 3.

Toke · 10-01-2010, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech_Junkie

1. Quality support.
2. Product quality.
3. Customer service.

They fail on all 3.

Yes I am aware of that.

My point is that he seems incapable of seeing it.
He just kept going in the same track, getting more and more agitated.

Well, his problem there are enough good companies out there.

Pontiacg5 · 10-01-2010, 03:27 AM

Wait,

So Berni opened the laser to modify the driver? Did the laser die before or after that?

I guess Livi did say to modify the driver to get 1W of power though...

Tech_Junkie · 10-01-2010, 03:29 AM

Its just typical delusion of self grandeur. He is not wrong, everyone else is. A humble person will always succeed, because there is always room for improvement.

Pontiacg5 · 10-01-2010, 03:39 AM

I understand that, but was the laser dismantled before or after it broke?

I haven't been around as much lately and missed everything that's been going on. If the laser was dismantled before it broke I don't see how someone could expect a warranty to cover the damages.

Livylasers / whoever this clown is is still an incredible egomaniac who sells underpowered lasers, but that doesn't mean that you can try to modify something under warranty then expect free repair when it doesn't work out.

I need to read more about what happened...

09-30-2010, 08:24 AM	#1
jieff111 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser evidence:Review of $170.00 445nm Lvyi Electronics Laser Artificial damage can be covered by warranty. You have taken apart the electronic circuit. It’s not reasonable to blame on us for the fault. We had given a strict check before we sent. So now it’s not sure if the laser tube is burnt or not. You send to us, and we’ll repair it after we receive. If the tube will be burnt, of course you should cover the fee. We’ll only charge you the cost 50 $. And where the fault is? You can ask others to tell their opinions. Now it’s not sure if the laser tube is burnt or not. It can be sure after I receive, if the tube wouldn’t be broken, we’ll offer you free maintenance. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Everybody, come and express your view, now some guys on this forum gave us harsh time deliberately, hoping us to die. But I tell you, we’re really upset. If we didn’t fix the price of 1W 445nm at 170 $, you won’t enjoy this favorable. Now the price of new-coming model 445nm will be close to 300$. I really feel some guys are bitch, who want to buy the same thing with double price. We don’t have any other choice, and meanwhile we also get this feeling in these days. Pitch! So we don’t want to say anything. Recently one competitor came to ask me, why I sell at such a low price at 170$, which influences the price-setting of the entire international market, and I think he was right. So if some guys are bitches, why we have to keep such a low price? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We’ve sent another complete new 1W 445nm laser to BERNI. Of course we don’t have any fault. The product has been checked strictly before we sent it. He must have taken apart the electric circuit. We don’t earn one coin in this transaction and we lost a lot. We accept, and someone, please shut up your pitch mouth ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EE070263088CN www.ems.com.cn ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Let’s calculate the cost: the freight from here to Israel is 30$, the cost of 1w 445nm is 65$. Layer eye 20$, charger 5$. And now we sent a complete new one to him, and we covered the freight. We accepted. BERNI, it’s up to your personal quality, if you think you are a good guy as we are, please send us back the broken one. Even if you don’t want, it’s ok. What important is to figure one guy out! We only don’t hope the guys on this forum to come to buy our products. We don’t care at all. Thanks. Please don’t come to buy, never! So those guys who want to give us harsh time, please shut up your mouth, because your target has been reached. We’re honest, and do business step by step. Our products have been always checked seriously before we send them. Just because some guys are pitched, and I agree with my competitors, you foreign guys are silly, who want to buy one thing by double price. Money is easy to earn. Really! Last edited by jieff111; 09-30-2010 at 09:21 AM.

09-30-2010, 08:51 AM	#3
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09-30-2010, 08:58 AM	#4
Tech_Junkie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: In A State of Shock. Posts: 11,938 Rep Power: 0	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser We tried to help him with some of the issues of his 1W 445nm laser. He got extremely mad, and defensive. Started call us 'foreigners' and that he didnt need or want help. We caught him in a few lies, he has a bad attitude, and acts like a child. He even threatened me, LOL. I think they need to find a new person to talk for the company. Because he is rude, not honest, and has done nothing but complain the whole time. He even acted like he was doing us a favor selling lasers to us. I'm surprised he is not banned yet.

09-30-2010, 09:03 AM	#5
Pilgor Class 2M Laser Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Timmins, Ontario, Canada Posts: 501 Rep Power: 15	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser jief111, I think you should take what dignity you have left and just leave LPF alone before you get banned.

09-30-2010, 09:16 AM	#7
Blu lase Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser Well Hqvent been around that long but clearly I can see he has a major attitude towards LPF which is not healthy. Especially if he plans to plug a product on here. He's lost me just with that message and I have no idea what he's selling Blulase

09-30-2010, 11:15 AM	#11
jieff111 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser 有些老外就是贱，不讲道理，

09-30-2010, 12:13 PM	#13
blue lasers Class 2M Laser Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: cyprus,nicosia EUROPE Posts: 590 Rep Power: 19	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser What are you trying to, really rubbish, other places to buy the next roll, garbage, had also sold off cheap, have the ability to not sign Crazy bastard out of hospital, I see you are here for the number of Chinese businessmen, silly b one, do not eat you this set, the picture with this person to know how many wretched Some foreigners are cheap, unreasonable EDIT: translate of Chinese in order from first to last __________________ 200mW Dilda USB powered<--VIDEO-TUTORIAL DX 200mW green laser pen Dorcy JR. Blu-Ray @ 120mA <--VIDEO 495mW 8x Blu-Ray <--VIDEO-REVIEW DX 50mW focusable green<--REVIEW-VIDEO

09-30-2010, 02:15 PM	#14
lasersbee Class 4 Laser Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 14,507 Rep Power: 551	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser Well that solves that problem.... BANNED... Sounded like a Chinese BobH.... Jerry __________________ J.BAUER Electronics Home Page LaserBee Laser Power Meter Products meet your needs at affordable Prices: See them all here on LPF... LaserBee Power Meter products ALWAYS in Stock and discounted for LPF Members.... 2W LaserBee A Laser Power Meter LaserBee 2.5W USB LPM LaserBee 3.7W USB LPM Available on eBay:Check availability here... This banner is available to and can be copied/used FREE by any LaserBee owner

09-30-2010, 03:15 PM	#15
daguin Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sunny Southern California Posts: 15,969 Rep Power: 611	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser I hope he actually shipped you something, Berni I don't think he will be welcomed back here again. Peace, dave __________________ How To Get Along In and Be Accepted in the Forum Are you looking for a small-frame, air-cooled argon laser? CLICK ME If you got some value out of reading this forum, how about donating $2 to keep it going? Click Here to donate Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none. -William Shakespeare

09-30-2010, 03:29 PM	#16
lasersbee Class 4 Laser Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 14,507 Rep Power: 551	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser Well he is back..... [EDIT] Oops... that didn't take long... Jerry __________________ J.BAUER Electronics Home Page LaserBee Laser Power Meter Products meet your needs at affordable Prices: See them all here on LPF... LaserBee Power Meter products ALWAYS in Stock and discounted for LPF Members.... 2W LaserBee A Laser Power Meter LaserBee 2.5W USB LPM LaserBee 3.7W USB LPM Available on eBay:Check availability here... This banner is available to and can be copied/used FREE by any LaserBee owner

09-30-2010, 05:44 PM	#17
00Giorge Class 3R Laser Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 1,952 Rep Power: 84	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser WOW! What an asshole! He deserved to be I hope I don't have any problems with my laser! Berni I really hope he sent you another laser! Jeff __________________ The older I get the better I was! Age is mind over matter, if you don't mind it really doesn't matter! Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional! Want help stop gun legislation http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html

10-01-2010, 02:55 AM	#20
Toke Class 3R Laser Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 1,118 Rep Power: 41	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser The sad part is that he is quite likely wondering why people here are so evil and will not buy his lasers. __________________ 100mW Odicforce kit. App. 300mw MiniMag App 120mW labby Fan cooled 400mA 12X 405nm flashlight 532nm 150mW Labby. 532nm 50mW in flashlight 1.2W 445nm Yobresal Basic laser building guide.

10-01-2010, 03:27 AM	#23
Pontiacg5 Class 3B Laser Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ottawa, Kansas Posts: 2,541 Rep Power: 111	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser Wait, So Berni opened the laser to modify the driver? Did the laser die before or after that? I guess Livi did say to modify the driver to get 1W of power though...

10-01-2010, 03:29 AM	#24
Tech_Junkie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: In A State of Shock. Posts: 11,938 Rep Power: 0	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser Its just typical delusion of self grandeur. He is not wrong, everyone else is. A humble person will always succeed, because there is always room for improvement.

10-01-2010, 03:39 AM	#25
Pontiacg5 Class 3B Laser Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ottawa, Kansas Posts: 2,541 Rep Power: 111	Re: Solution for warranty problem of Friend BERNI from Lvyi Laser I understand that, but was the laser dismantled before or after it broke? I haven't been around as much lately and missed everything that's been going on. If the laser was dismantled before it broke I don't see how someone could expect a warranty to cover the damages. Livylasers / whoever this clown is is still an incredible egomaniac who sells underpowered lasers, but that doesn't mean that you can try to modify something under warranty then expect free repair when it doesn't work out. I need to read more about what happened...

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