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Ryan, nice shop man !
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Put the link of the Survival Lasers

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Is exactly the kind of stuff that will bring trouble to our hobby.

You're jumping in, 3 weeks new to this process, with claims about "burning lasers" and "I'll get my packages through customs" etc etc etc. Then some shoddy build fires up unexpectedly, or fails momentarily, long enough for some irresponsible buyer to look in the end right as it finicks itself back to life.... well you get the picture.

There's just about zero associated with this approach Ryan is taking that is good for anyone here in the community. Sparkles and BH had more experience with posted public builds before selling anything, and even they didn't have flashing banner adds and "Shop" text advertising all sorts of irresponsible/inappropriate crap like Ryan's doing. You realize this is a "public" forum right? And that ANYONE can see it when you write"I will work with you in every step of the way and implement various methods to pass my builds as legal, so you don't have to worry about your package getting ceased!" - Are you kidding me ?!?

Ryan, you started off ok. But you've become bad news (for this community) in my books.
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I don't even consider myself a pro and I've been building lasers for almost a year now. Not to mention all my previous electronic experience...

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I kinda dissagree with the banner too! 2.2W BURNING laser is not a toy or something..

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Just don't take on too much at once. A lot of people try to sell lasers, and they see that money flood into their Paypal and get too excited. They end up mismanaging the funds or get too bogged down with orders that they don't think they can ever catch up.

This is normally when people just get so far behind and flooded with unhappy customer inquiries that they just shut down and walk away from it all.
I'm not saying this is going to happen with you, I'm just saying it happens a lot here. Especially when you're busy with college or work, or life in general.

The most important piece of advice I can give is to never let the total value of your pending orders be more than you have in your own checking account. There have been a few times that I have had to abruptly walk away (eg: my visit with the FDA) and I was able to do it on good terms because I always have enough "real" money to immediately refund every order.

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This is normally when people just get so far behind and flooded with unhappy customer inquiries that they just shut down and walk away from it all.
I'm not saying this is going to happen with you, I'm just saying it happens a lot here. Especially when you're busy with college or work, or life in general.

The most important piece of advice I can give is to never let the total value of your pending orders be more than you have in your own checking account. There have been a few times that I have had to abruptly walk away (eg: my visit with the FDA) and I was able to do it on good terms because I always have enough "real" money to immediately refund every order.

this is a good read: Buying and selling through the forums
You're right, wise advice and will be well heeded. I'm pausing sales for a bit as I'm swamped with orders...

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Does that imply that you're accepting money in advance too?

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I hope not.
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Well technically it's not your store.. This is a thread on a forum where everyone can put his comments on.. And discussions and info can be put on and found. If you want on official store where only customers can respond build yourself a webshop on the internet like ryanelectro.com or something

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Well technically it's not your store.. This is a thread on a forum where everyone can put his comments on.. And discussions and info can be put on and found. If you want on official store where only customers can respond build yourself a webshop on the internet like ryanelectro.com or something

Anyway good luck on your sales hope all goes well

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well there is also this thing called common courtesy, which this forum doesnt seems to know anything about. clearly unsaid motto here is "if you are not in the cult, you are against it"

RDH said many times its non of his business, regarding ryans shop and yet he is very vocal, this is just a reminiscences of TS93 thread, when he asked question about selling lasers etc.

I truly think that many here only make their living from selling laser and when other user decided to sell, they get really angry and rage, that they will lose some business.
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Default Re: ★ Ryan's Laser Build Shop ★ [POWERFUL BURNING LASERS] [Custom Build Service]

I would suggest waiting to collect money till you have the item built and ready to ship. Time from payment to receipt of the item is the biggest factor in how happy your customers are with your service. It has really helped my reputation as when someone buys from me they know their item will be in the mail within 24 hours.

This will also keep you from getting in a bind as you know you have the item ready to ship even if something disastrous happens in your life and you have to put everything on hold you won't end up with a huge que of people you have to either refund or put off.
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Why would I take concerns about your sales to the public, into a private venue?

Sorry, but taking payments 2 to 3 weeks ahead of time is a horrible danger to buyers, and that needs to be voiced PUBLICLY, not in private.

I couldn't care less if you think that's a "derailment", because unethical or dangerous practices SHOULD be derailed.
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