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2,000mW "Silver Sabre" - High-Wavelength (455nm) Build

This is one of the two twins I wrote about here:
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I built two lasers using this host, one binned for the highest efficiency diode, and one binned for the highest wavelength diode. This is the build that uses a diode that was cherry picked for wavelength. It was the highest wavelength of several dozen tested. It measures in at 455nm. It's amazing how much brightness the high wavelength adds here. I mentioned this in the original thread, but it bears repeating - you can _definitely_ tell the difference in colour vs a 445nm equivalent (which is what the black twin was). This 455nm is a gorgeous blue, and a very very highly visible wavelength. I'll discuss relative brightness "science" a bit below, but subjectively this is just flat out the brightest beam I have seen. As I mentioned in the original thread, this build seemed a tad bit brighter than the 2,600mW 445nm build.

The build is focusable, and includes a G2 lens in a custom focus adapter. It's quite stable at 2W when measured on my Ophir. It runs on 2x 26650 lithium ion cells. You should be able to get several hours of run time from the capacity in a single charge. If for some reason you're dead set on using 18650s, they'll work just fine in this build, you just need to use spacers. Spacers can be ordered online from a number of sources for about $2, or you can improvise. I would of course recommend sticking with good 26650 cells, but I realize that most of us have 18650s coming out of our shoes already. Shipping lithium ion batteries is prohibited by the postal system for non-ground shipping, so please don't ask. However, I can recommend some GREAT cells, at a decent price here.

I have some ethical reservations about pointing you to a wavelength comparison tool that I created, so I'll preface this by saying that there is a lot of debate about how well relative brightness calculations hold up in the real world, and there are certainly people who just flat out don't trust the CIE data or Raleigh scattering formulas that they're based on. But for whatever it's worth (and I'll let you decide that), my relative brightness tool suggests that 2.0W of 455nm light should look about as bright as either 2.3W or 2.9W of 445nm light (the difference depends on whether you use the original CIE tables, or the Judd-vos revision):
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Nice laser! That host is much larger in real life than it appears in photo. I know you have a 26650 battery shot for reference but it would be nice to see it in hand. Just a thought. Actually I should probably go take a shot like that too.
Would you be willing to test some of my 445nm lasers I have built. I'm very curious about them. I've got 5 I'd love to get tested.
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Nice laser! That host is much larger in real life than it appears in photo. I know you have a 26650 battery shot for reference but it would be nice to see it in hand. Just a thought. Actually I should probably go take a shot like that too.
Would you be willing to test some of my 445nm lasers I have built. I'm very curious about them. I've got 5 I'd love to get tested.
Yes, of course. Wavelength right?
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Yes wavelength. That would be awesome !
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Yep, quite happy to.

I'm not calibrated for the RED range yet, but anything else from 430 up to around 600 is no problem.
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Very nice build.
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And what you are doing for Rob is a beautiful thing
Might i ask what kind of driver did you use was it a flex.pretty color blue
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Might i ask what kind of driver did you use was it a flex.pretty color blue
Thanks. I'm going to try and remember to do that for anything else I sell on this forum for a little while.

The driver is a custom 1085 based driver. Essentially very similar to a Mohgasm driver, except that I probably used a beefier external resistor instead of SMD components, so that there wouldn't be any heat issues.

I suspect that the duty cycle on this guy is quite good.
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ohhhhhhhhhhh that is CANDY. Wish I had the money... haha
I'd love to get a high wavelength binned diode.
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ohhhhhhhhhhh that is CANDY. Wish I had the money... haha
I'd love to get a high wavelength binned diode.
This is probably one of my favorite hosts.

If there's interest in this design, I'm thinking about doing a couple builds set at a lower output, around 1.5W, specifically with the intention of them being longer duty cycle builds. I would still try to bin for high wavelength (though I'm not likely to find another this high). With this host, the heat dissipation is just phenomenal.
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The lighter blue color defiantly goes very nice with this host.

Seems very rare to find one at this Wavelength.

Someone is going to get a Gem.
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