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1st Build (Pics Might Be Tomorrow)

Lucian

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My first laser I owned that wasn't a pet store one equivalent came from Wicked Lasers. I'm not going to lie, I started off interest from seeing a you tube video showing how powerful they were, and were basically light sabers. I waiting over 6 months before ordering. I was waiting for the comments to change from "Still haven't received after 9 months of waiting" to "Wow, I actually got it in a couple weeks". Great, I felt it was safe enough to order one now... but I had to clear it with the Wife.

Absolutely no arguments, or questions, she asked me why I wasn't already ordering one (Life is Good). I had been reading about how dangerous they could be for eyes and whatnot well before this point. I chose the Spyder Arctic III <1W 445NM. I think it took 4 weeks before clearing customs but managed to make it. Wanting to know whether or not the rectangle could be made less fuzzy or if that was even normal (it did come from China) for the lasers. After all none of my red ones ever looked like that :P

I found LPF looking for an answer and realized I didn't want to own lasers... I wanted to BUILD them. My true new hobby was born.

After doing what I thought was an amazingly large amount of research on LFP (but later turned out to be the tip of the iceberg). I started reading around the forums to see who could make a heat sink, how hard it would be, who was reliable, what hosts did I want to use, what batteries did I want to use, whether or not it was feasible to make my own current regulator chip from a schematic and realizing that I didn't know shit about them I had slowly picked all my parts. *Breathe* I didn't want to buy an "already done for you kit" But I didn't want to start trying to mount my own diodes and and lenses and making a Driver with no soldering experience. So I did the next step and chose my own host and design but without doing any of the micro work. Everyone has all been wonderful and helpful but I do have to say I found jayrob's heat sinks amazing. Just gonna toss a vouch that way because I love the handiwork. I also like that the micro details were done by people who I had been reading through their tutorials.. makes it feel a little special as a first build since they had gotten me interested in the hobby. In order to make myself see a project through I traded my Arctic Spyder III to my older brother for a shotgun. I made him read some of the horror stories of people losing eyesight from messing around with it first. He made me learn how to clean the shotgun properly. It was a good trade.

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DTR whom I found on ebay: SoJ 6x Blueray 445 NM, Mounted in aixiz module with lead wires soldered on, G-2 Lense with Focus Adapter; Casio Projector (Up to 2A) 445nm Diode (The 2nd model I think), Mounted in aixiz module with lead wires soldered on, G-2 Lense with Focus Adapter.

Flaminpyro: Wiring Kits, 1x 500mw Micro Boost, 2x 900mw Micro Boost

Lighthound: 2x Solar Force Flashlight Hosts, 2x Cranium Bezels, cases, 8x 1650 Protected Cell Batteries, Chargers, and a very special Host I decided to make as my third project, which will come after these 2. 2x Solar Force Belt Clips

Jayrob: Heatsinks with contact board (I actually waited months to order these to finish my college year out).


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I took advice from an early post I made and made sure to take my time with everything. I practiced on red diodes I had peeled out of cheap flashlights and luckily we have a store around here that sells 1mw red diodes for like 20 cents a piece. I blew a lot of them, mostly just to see how hard it was... it wasn't. After verifying with Flaminpyro and Jayrob the proper way to wire that particular driver with a host negative supply I made my friend come over today and we sat down and very poorly (but effectively) soldered the wires on the 445nm diode to the lower power Micro Boost (but top of Blue Ray range at 500ma) then soldered on the contact board and installed the module into the heat sink and sealed it all up. I couldn't remember if the driver had reverse polarity protection or not so I assumed not, and looked up the proper way my unmarked battery should be facing (no + or - marked on it confused me at first). It turned on, just and I felt a HUGE satisfactory feeling. I took half a year to do it and didn't rush through it because hobbies are okay that way.

I couldn't get it to focus though, and soon the collimator lens fell out. I took the one off the 445nm lens assembly and used it instead. I installed some thread tape the next day to make it so it was still adjustable but would better hold the position I set it to. The laser was exceptionally potent. I accidentally burnt a spot in my white wall while adjusting it...

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I've since ordered some custom hosts from Sinner; a new 1.8A driver from Lazereer; and a replacement G-1 collimator lens from Jayrob.
 
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Sounds like you are having a lot of fun making lasers. I have to agree that making them is far more satisfying than buying them. Not to mention the look on people's faces when you tell them that you made the laser yourself :D

You may want to look into The 1.4W Osram diode that DTR sells for a future build. It has better beam specs than a M140 and a smaller dot at distance(better divergence) so it makes for a good outdoor pointer. It has become one of my favorite diodes. Here is a link:
https://sites.google.com/site/dtrlpf/home/diodes/osram-pltb450-1-4w-450nm
Here is some info on the diode:
http://laserpointerforums.com/f65/osram-pltb450-1-4w-450nm-diodes-77127.html

Good luck with your future builds man.
 
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Building your own is the most satisfying, but some of the parts the members here offer are just too good to pass up at times. Why I carefully remember to say I built the laser, I didn't make it. Looking forward to your updates :beer: GL
 
I'm sorry I haven't updated pics yet. I'm salary at my job (on a leash) and won't have time until Tuesday. But I sure will on Tuesday. Thanks for the great replies :P

Some pics early today, a couple others later today. Edited the post to show the death of my first build :(
 
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Rest In Piece my 405: This morning I got the camera out to take some pictures. I've been using the laser since I built it almost draining a battery every day; but the instant I turned it on this morning it became really dull and the diode turned rectangle... pretty sure it LEDd. I'm going to open up the heat sink enclosure later and see if i can salvage the host but I'm fairly certain the diode is gone and I'm not sure if the driver failed or not. The other 2 driver's I ordered originally for my 1.8A (2x 900 Micro Boosts in Parallel) I'm going to put away for now and later on when I learn how attenuate them down to use in lower powered lasers.
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This is the "Rectangle" shape that tells me the diode is probably dead. What you can't see in the picture is that the intensity is extremely low, but fluctuating rapidly. It was formerly very steady. I'm also aware that some diodes have a rectangular shape (like the 445nm will) but that shouldn't be the case with my SO6J 12x 405nm.
 
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That is sad news. Any idea how it died ? Maybe it is the driver or the battery.
 
That is sad news. Any idea how it died ? Maybe it is the driver or the battery.

The batteries I got are 3100mAh protected 18650s I bought from Light Hound. I ended up paying a few dollars more because of the excellent reviews on this particular battery. But it is from China, so anything is possible.
 
Use a DMM to check the battery voltage. A DMM is a very handy tool, not only for laser building.
 
Use a DMM to check the battery voltage. A DMM is a very handy tool, not only for laser building.

I will be sure to do that before I put the batteries into any other lasers or projects, but it will take me a few weeks to get one. I'm still waiting on several parts for my next project so no rush.
 
Hmmm I'm wondering you said you used the lens from the sled. Could it be possible that the back reflection from the stock lens maybe had something to due with it???? I know that 500mA is some kinda hard on these also.
 
Hmmm I'm wondering you said you used the lens from the sled. Could it be possible that the back reflection from the stock lens maybe had something to due with it???? I know that 500mA is some kinda hard on these also.

Well the lens I purchased was a G-2 from DTR. When that one fell out (I don't blame DTR, I blame me trying to get it right 50 times) I used the OTHER G-2 I purchased from him for my second build I haven't done yet.

edit: Yea I knew 500ma was pretty top range. Could be that particular diode just didn't last with it.
 
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Your Magic Sticks are on their way :beer: and This is such a nice work there amazing first build i must say, You are a very patient man i remember when i first started out i used to rush things a lot until i blew some diodes and realized.. Patience is the Key!!

So kudos to you for this awesome build.. Good luck, Keep safe. And let me know when the parcel arrives.
 
I've since ordered some custom hosts from Sinner; a new 1.8A driver from Lazereer; and a replacement G-1 collimator lens from Jayrob.
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When they arrive I'm going to build the 2W 445NM diode into a huge host pictured below that takes 4 batteries... it is an aluminum host that I am turning into a "Security Nightstick" type build :P

After that I will have 2x Magic Sticks and 2x L2P SolarForce hosts to build (had 1 extra, salvaging the one from the dead laser). I think I'll remake a 405 into a Magic Stick, then make a 605 into an L2P. That will leave me 2 to decide on later :P

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Thats great.. Glad to hear such bright ideas!!

It was shipped just a few hours ago, Let me know!!
 
Thats strange, I also had an SO6J diode go LED when using a microboost set at 500mA. Maybe a total of 2 hours use before it went LED. I still need to fix that, but Im having trouble finding a driver for a bluray that will work with one battery.
 


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