Politics and General Debates Thread

[RedCowboy]

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Bidens border policy is an ever worsening disaster as is his entire presidency.

Gas and heating energy prices are up, up ,up going into winter and set to get even worse, this is because of the carbon divestment craze which has demonized fossil fuels as well as nuclear power.

Investors as well as governments bowing to ESG concerns have cut them out of investment portfolios, instead investing in more socially acceptable low-carbon alternatives, however excluding hydro, renewables only account for 10% of global energy and are not yet scalable to meet 24 hour a day energy needs.

Now we face a global energy crisis with energy prices rising across the board for everyone and this will further drive up inflation, again progressive liberal ideology along with accompanying governmental policy has proven itself far too idealistic and unrealistic and again it's the little people who will pay.

Stores are closing where liberal governance won't prosecute shoplifting under 1000.00 and illegal immigrants are being smuggled into our cities in the dead of night, now while we try to recover from overreaching covid restrictions our energy prices are soaring and lets not forget our supply line issues.....If I didn't know any better I would think Biden is trying to create a disaster so government can seize control and " fix " things.


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[Ears and Eggs]

They keep putting this off and off:

Release of JFK records delayed again, with Biden citing Covid-19 and national security

President Joe Biden has ordered the remaining files on President John F. Kennedy’s assassination to remain hidden until next December, citing the coronavirus pandemic. He’s not the first president to delay releasing the files.

www.rt.com

 

[paul1598419]

Lol not wrong- yet if you listen to cnn or Paul you would think January 6th was like the battle of Gettysburg

The Washington Post today:

Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Jim Evens, and several other Trump sycophants were holed up in a Washington Hotel days before the January 6th insurrection in a place they called the "war room". Evens was the architect of a pan that would overturn the election of 2020 and reinstall Trump as president. Bannon is so far the only participant that has refused to adhere to the House committee investigating this. All the others have either agreed to testify or in negotiations to do so. This was a very long article that I read this morning and laid out all the evidence against Trump and his cronies. Wish I could post it all here, but my subscription won't permit it.

Stores are not closing only in Democratic states. That is something that has happened more in mainly Republican states as they have the worst outbreaks of covid because they tend to refuse vaccinations. If Republicans would get vaccinated at rates that Democrats do this could be over far sooner.

 

[conceptcar3]

The Washington Post today:

Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Jim Evens, and several other Trump sycophants were holed up in a Washington Hotel days before the January 6th insurrection in a place they called the "war room". Evens was the architect of a pan that would overturn the election of 2020 and reinstall Trump as president. Bannon is so far the only participant that has refused to adhere to the House committee investigating this. All the others have either agreed to testify or in negotiations to do so. This was a very long article that I read this morning and laid out all the evidence against Trump and his cronies. Wish I could post it all here, but my subscription won't permit it.

Stores are not closing only in Democratic states. That is something that has happened more in mainly Republican states as they have the worst outbreaks of covid because they tend to refuse vaccinations. If Republicans would get vaccinated at rates that Democrats do this could be over far sooner.

Not correct Paul, vaccinated people spread Covid just as quickly as unvaccinated.

 

[RedCowboy]

You are a liar paul.

Republican States don't have store closures due to covid, that's a lie.

Republican States opened up before liberal run States and we are not preventing anyone from working because of covid.

Democrats want to blame anyone else for their complete and total policy failures, Biden has done nothing but screw things up, from our Southern border to the undeniable yet unnecessary disaster in Afghanistan, and pushing a vaccine mandate at this point in time is only making our supply chain problems worse, only making our inflation problems worse, Biden is only making everything worse.

 

[conceptcar3]

You are a liar paul.

Republican States don't have store closures due to covid, that's a lie.

Republican States opened up before liberal run States and we are not preventing anyone from working because of covid.

Democrats want to blame anyone else for their complete and total policy failures, Biden has done nothing but screw things up, from our Southern border to the undeniable yet unnecessary disaster in Afghanistan, and pushing a vaccine mandate at this point in time is only making our supply chain problems worse, only making our inflation problems worse, Biden is only making everything worse.

Correct, Paul is lying as usual. New York City was shut down for ages while Florida was wide open for business, while Paul complained non stop about how Florida was killing everyone by staying open! What a total liar lol he just makes up nonsense continuously! You can’t have it both ways Paul! Either Florida (a republican state) was open for business and killing people, or republican states are closed and saving them from Covid.

 

[paul1598419]

Early in this pandemic New York City was hit badly and they did shut down for awhile. But, while vaccinations don't keep all people from getting a secondary infection, they do stop many people from infecting others and now they are about to allow children 5 years old and up to get it. Florida had the worst numbers of infected people there carrying 20% of all infections in the country. Ron DeSantis is totally responsible for this lack of containment with his Trumpian disregard of pandemic guidelines.

 

[conceptcar3]

Early in this pandemic New York City was hit badly and they did shut down for awhile. But, while vaccinations don't keep all people from getting a secondary infection, they do stop many people from infecting others and now they are about to allow children 5 years old and up to get it. Florida had the worst numbers of infected people there carrying 20% of all infections in the country. Ron DeSantis is totally responsible for this lack of containment with his Trumpian disregard of pandemic guidelines.

That is a lie, they do not stop any spread of the virus at all. That is 100% fake news lie.

 

[paul1598419]

That is a lie, they do not stop any spread of the virus at all. That is 100% fake news lie.

Yeah, and Donald Trump's new social media outlet should be known as the sex criminal network. Fake news my ass.

 

[conceptcar3]

Early in this pandemic New York City was hit badly and they did shut down for awhile. But, while vaccinations don't keep all people from getting a secondary infection, they do stop many people from infecting others and now they are about to allow children 5 years old and up to get it. Florida had the worst numbers of infected people there carrying 20% of all infections in the country. Ron DeSantis is totally responsible for this lack of containment with his Trumpian disregard of pandemic guidelines.

And yet you say the Republican states are closed! Hahahaha

 

[conceptcar3]

Yeah, and Donald Trump's new social media outlet should be known as the sex criminal network. Fake news my ass.

Lol what a joke Paul. Get real. The vaccine does not stop the spread. If it did we would have fewer cases and fewer deaths this year, but instead we have more cases and more deaths in 2021 with the vaccine, than we did in 2020 when there was no vaccine! Think !

 

[RedCowboy]

Biden’s net-zero climate policies drive a 23% hike in U.S. coal usage

Donald Trump vowed to revive the coal industry, but it’s President Joe Biden who’s driving a big comeback of the dirtiest fossil fuel.

www.worldoil.com

 

[paul1598419]

Lol what a joke Paul. Get real. The vaccine does not stop the spread. If it did we would have fewer cases and fewer deaths this year, but instead we have more cases and more deaths in 2021 with the vaccine, than we did in 2020 when there was no vaccine! Think !

Yes, but most of those infections are in Republican run states. My state, Washington, still uses masks and we have low infection rates here. More people here are vaccinated too. THINK!

 

[conceptcar3]

Yes, but most of those infections are in Republican run states. My state, Washington, still uses masks and we have low infection rates here. More people here are vaccinated too. THINK!

Your vaccine doesn’t work. Think!

 

[paul1598419]

In the Washington Post today:

"Once upon a time, Republicans portrayed themselves as the party of small government and family values. Recently, however, GOP leaders have been cobbling together a new coalition welcoming insurrectionists, White-nationalists tiki-torchers and people who think Bill Gates is trying to microchip them with vaccines.

The latest recruit to the Big Tent? Tax cheats.

Here's the backstory. Each year about $600 billion in taxes legally owed are not paid. For scale, that's about equal to all the federal income taxes paid by the lowest earning 90% of taxpayers, according to Treasury Dept data.

These unpaid taxes -often called the 'tax gap'- are predominantly owed by wealthy individuals. To be clear, rank-and-file wage-earners are not necessarily more honest or patriotic. It's just just more difficult for them to shortchange Uncle Sam.

Workplace grunts have taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks. And, critically, most labor-related income, as well as income from dividends, interest and other sources gets reported through W-2s, 1099s and other tax documents.

There are some types of income for which there is little to no third-party reporting exists. Incomes including partnerships, proprietorships and rental income that accrues disproportionaly to high earners."

For most wage-earners noncompliance is estimated at about 1% while more opaque income noncompliance is estimated to be 55%. This is not a victimless crime as this income must be made up from other sources. Republicans have been fighting tooth and nail to keep Democrats from getting these documents from bank sources.

www.nytimes.com/2021/10/19/us/politics/irs-bank-account-reporting-requirement.html

This link is now active. I made a mistake posting it earlier.

 

[paul1598419]

Lt. Governor, Dan Patrick, of Texas just paid a poll worker $25,000 for finding fraud in the 2020 election. It was a Republican who voted twice for Trump.