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DemocRATS want to turn millions of illegal immigrants into voters with mass amnesty in the so called " infrastructure " bill and try to pass it under reconciliation no less, if this is allowed by the moderates we will be well on our way to seeing the Balkinization of America in the years ahead which 1/3 of Americans currently support, should democrats actually be able to steal the 2024 I expect property in the free States to go way up and the division of our nation will deepen, Biden has done absolutely nothing to unite America, quite the opposite.

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DemocRATS want to turn millions of illegal immigrants into voters with mass amnesty in the so called " infrastructure " bill and try to pass it under reconciliation no less, if this is allowed by the moderates we will be well on our way to seeing the Balkinization of America in the years ahead which 1/3 of Americans currently support, should democrats actually be able to steal the 2024 I expect property in the free States to go way up and the division of our nation will deepen, Biden has done absolutely nothing to unite America, quite the opposite.

What could Biden do to reunite Republicans with the rest of the country? When you believe a LIE in the first place what could anyone do? No one is trying to make illegal immigrants voters in any bill. That is also a lie. BTW, where is Trump and why hasn't he taken back the White House like he has so many times said he would? If Trump runs in 2024 he will lose. Even half of all Republicans don't want Trump back in office. But, Trump is still your leader. That is on YOU!
 

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No I don't want to see Trump run again but I would vote for Trump over Biden or Harris in 2024 as will a majority of voters if that's our only option.

Trump is not taking back the White House at least not before January 2025

Yes democRATS are trying to turn illegal immigrants into voters and a lot of other unbelievable radical socialist crap they want in their so called 3.5 TRILLION dollar " infrastructure " bill they hope to pass by reconciliation which it is not.


Hillary Clintons lawyer has been charged by Durham for lying to the FBI about the Trump-Russia charade.

 

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No I don't want to see Trump run again but I would vote for Trump over Biden or Harris in 2024 as will a majority of voters if that's our only option.

Trump is not taking back the White House at least not before January 2025

Yes democRATS are trying to turn illegal immigrants into voters and a lot of other unbelievable radical socialist crap they want in their so called 3.5 TRILLION dollar " infrastructure " bill they hope to pass by reconciliation which it is not.


Hillary Clintons lawyer has been charged by Durham for lying to the FBI about the Trump-Russia charade.


Yep, as soon as the statute of limitations was going to run out Durham did charge Sussmann, though with what exactly is difficult to know. He is apparently trying to charge him with having a client, although Sussmann never said he didn't have one. The lawyer who talked with Sussmann is saying that he didn't tell him about any client, though this is just that lawyers recollection and there is no evidence other than that.
 
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These people won't be voting for Biden and these people won't either.

Yep, those are Republicans that have bought into the "big Lie" and who cares anyway. Biden won Pennsylvania without them last time. Nurses that won't get vaccinated against covid should be terminated. That is insane! Most have gotten vaccinated long ago.
 

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Identity politics, that's what's been preached in our schools, here's an example of a man-child brainwashed to hate President Trump who is not a racist and neither are most of the Americans who voted for President Trump and I'm sure this petulant woke-a-joke has also been brainwashed to believe he deserves a living ( housing, medical, income, food and more ) for contributing nothing, it's not just identity politics it's Marxism taught in our schools and echoed in the mainstream media that's ruined a generation and what happened to peaceful public discourse and the sharing of ideas, peaceful debate that everyone can learn from ? These young people have been told to be afraid of hearing a different opinion, our school system needs a massive enema.

In actuality I don't think our short sighted democrats would plan this deep, no I believe this is Chinese influence, China knows how to exploit identity politics to destabilize a nation then take centralized government control and that is the democrat plan today, centralized government control of everything.......if they could pull it off the big problem will be when the honeymoon is over and the woke-a-jokes realize their universal income is less than minimum wage.
 
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Biden has caused a disaster on the US Southern border, it didn't have to be this way, President Trump handed the Biden admin. a much more secure border but Biden screwed it up because the progressive mob around him wanted to tear down everything Trump built.
 

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If you guys don't believe in the vaccine, why mention whether or not illegal immigrants are vaccinated?

If you believe Biden stole the 2020 election, what needs to be different in 2024 to ensure that it doesn't happen again? Is there a checklist of boxes that can be in place, such that, if Trump/whichever-GOP-candidate loses, you will accept the result?

More importantly, what are the three main things that you would like to see Biden do differently in order to do a better job (based on his performance so far)?

Trump did a lot of good things while he was in office, but the promise he made that I wanted to see come to fruition most was dropped like a hot potato as soon as he got into the oval office: term limits on legislators. Of course, I knew it'd never happen, but I mean, hey, he promised.
 

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If you guys don't believe in the vaccine, why mention whether or not illegal immigrants are vaccinated?
Because it demonstrates the total hypocrisy of the “ruling” class. They don’t wear masks, but you have to. They get a wall around the capitol, but you don’t get a wall at the border. You need to take vaccines, but we don’t care if illegal immigrants come streaming in unvaccinated.
If you believe Biden stole the 2020 election, what needs to be different in 2024 to ensure that it doesn't happen again? Is there a checklist of boxes that can be in place, such that, if Trump/whichever-GOP-candidate loses, you will accept the result?
No magical ballot dumps at 4:30am from mail drop boxes that weren’t monitored, voter id required and voting in person only, No illegal blocking of vote counters from monitoring the votes being counted fairly and accurately. Timely results. No mystical stopping counting in the middle of the night. No more dominion and no more es&s voting machines that have functions to weight votes and are connected to the ccp. To name a few.
More importantly, what are the three main things that you would like to see Biden do differently in order to do a better job (based on his performance so far)?

Maybe don’t leave Americans behind in Afghanistan. Maybe don’t say everything is fine there a month before the Taliban takes over. Maybe don’t force an experimental vaccine with a mandate on people who don’t want it. Maybe try and protect our border a little bit from thousands of illegal immigrants pouring into our country.
Trump did a lot of good things while he was in office, but the promise he made that I wanted to see come to fruition most was dropped like a hot potato as soon as he got into the oval office: term limits on legislators. Of course, I knew it'd never happen, but I mean, hey, he promised.
He made a promise he couldn’t keep- the president has no power to enforce such a thing as that and he knew that.
 
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Identity politics, that's what's been preached in our schools, here's an example of a man-child brainwashed to hate President Trump who is not a racist and neither are most of the Americans who voted for President Trump and I'm sure this petulant woke-a-joke has also been brainwashed to believe he deserves a living ( housing, medical, income, food and more ) for contributing nothing, it's not just identity politics it's Marxism taught in our schools and echoed in the mainstream media that's ruined a generation and what happened to peaceful public discourse and the sharing of ideas, peaceful debate that everyone can learn from ? These young people have been told to be afraid of hearing a different opinion, our school system needs a massive enema.

In actuality I don't think our short sighted democrats would plan this deep, no I believe this is Chinese influence, China knows how to exploit identity politics to destabilize a nation then take centralized government control and that is the democrat plan today, centralized government control of everything.......if they could pull it off the big problem will be when the honeymoon is over and the woke-a-jokes realize their universal income is less than minimum wage.

Yeah this has animated many Republicans as they look for a policy they can support. Many now don't want any discourse on race in schools though that is not what animates students. Blacks in this country have been given the shit end of the stick for decades. This is our history and it should be taught. I find it hilarious that you seem to believe that the Biden administration is capitulating to the Chinese and you expect them to take over. That is what you have left when Trump is your leader and you have no other narrative. I'll bet you didn't even know that Santa Anna came into Texas because of slavery which Mexico didn't allow. Unlike the history taught in Texas schools that war was fought to maintain slavery in Texas.
 

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No magical ballot dumps at 4:30am from mail drop boxes that weren’t monitored, voter id required and voting in person only, No illegal blocking of vote counters from monitoring the votes being counted fairly and accurately. Timely results. No mystical stopping counting in the middle of the night. To name a few.


Maybe don’t leave Americans behind in Afghanistan. Maybe don’t say everything is fine there a month before the Taliban takes over. Maybe don’t force an experimental vaccine with a mandate on people who don’t want it. Maybe try and protect our border a little bit from thousands of illegal immigrants pouring into our country.

He made a promise he couldn’t keep- the president has no power to enforce such a thing as that and he knew that.

What about states like mine that do their election primarily by mail? There are 6 of these and of the mail in ballots in 2020 the only fraud was from Trump voters who voted more than once or used other people's ballots to vote for Trump.
 

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Mail out ballots are prone to fraud, it's been known in European countries who now have mostly banned by-mail voting and it should be banned here, many of the free States have recently enacted voter reform to limit by-mail voting, but liberal States like paul's ( Washington State ) who use mostly by-mail voting always vote democrat somehow.....imagine that.

Conceptcar3 answered the 3 questions very well, I agree with his answers, I will add that I am in favor of the vaccine and I have had the vaccine however, I do not want to see it forced on people as it has had no long term testing and natural immunity has been shown to be much more effective against the delta variant.

 

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Mail out ballots are prone to fraud, it's been known in European countries who now have mostly banned by-mail voting and it should be banned here, many of the free States have recently enacted voter reform to limit by-mail voting, but liberal States like paul's ( Washington State ) who use mostly by-mail voting always vote democrat somehow.....imagine that.

Conceptcar3 answered the 3 questions very well, I agree with his answers, I will add that I am in favor of the vaccine and I have had the vaccine however, I do not want to see it forced on people as it has had no long term testing and natural immunity has been shown to be much more effective against the delta variant.


That simply is not true. Among states that use mail in ballots are Utah, Nebraska, North Dakota, Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Kansas, Missouri and Montana. Utah uses mail in ballot exclusively. So, stating that only states that vote Democratic use mail in ballots is just your wrongheaded narrative.
 




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