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This is funny! Bob Woodward and Costas have a new book coming out that shows how Trump had gone so far off the rails that Gen Mark Milley had taken unusual measures to keep Trump from actually taking all the troops out of Afghanistan before Biden took office as Trump was pressuring Pence on Jan. 5th to do impossible things on the 6th to keep Trump in office. There are quotes here that show haw crazy Trump had gotten and how afraid his staff had gotten over what he might do next. This is going to be looked at by the House 1/6 Commission as they try to figure out who is to blame for the insurrection. The Book's name is "Peril".
 



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This is funny! Bob Woodward and Costas have a new book coming out that shows how Trump had gone so far off the rails that Gen Mark Milley had taken unusual measures to keep Trump from actually taking all the troops out of Afghanistan before Biden took office as Trump was pressuring Pence on Jan. 5th to do impossible things on the 6th to keep Trump in office. There are quotes here that show haw crazy Trump had gotten and how afraid his staff had gotten over what he might do next. This is going to be looked at by the House 1/6 Commission as they try to figure out who is to blame for the insurrection. The Book's name is "Peril".
Do you have any of the actual quotes to share?

What does the 1/6 Commission have the authority to actually do?
 

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This is funny! Bob Woodward and Costas have a new book coming out that shows how Trump had gone so far off the rails that Gen Mark Milley had taken unusual measures to keep Trump from actually taking all the troops out of Afghanistan before Biden took office as Trump was pressuring Pence on Jan. 5th to do impossible things on the 6th to keep Trump in office. There are quotes here that show haw crazy Trump had gotten and how afraid his staff had gotten over what he might do next. This is going to be looked at by the House 1/6 Commission as they try to figure out who is to blame for the insurrection. The Book's name is "Peril".
Do you have any of the actual quotes to share?

What does the 1/6 Commission have the authority to actually do?



Yikes, that is pretty darn disturbing:




 

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Yikes, that is pretty darn disturbing:





Yeah, here are some. It's truly disturbing that Trump's hold on sanity was so bad in the last weeks of his presidency that many were worried that he might start a war or fire some nukes in his attempt to hold onto powder after losing so definitively to Biden.

The 1/6 Commission is a fact finding commission that will help people know who and what was to blame for the insurrection. I don't believe they are there to take any action.
 

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Milley also called the Chinese leader and told them America would not attack them without Milley calling them 1st, Milley is guilty of undermining and treason.

US Pledges 64 Million in aid to Afghanistan, this while airplanes are being prevented from taking off to bring Americans that Biden left behind home, we can expect Biden will pay off the Taliban again and again, however the Taliban is not satisfied with 64 Million, the leader said " America is a big country, America needs to have a big heart "......This is ransom, pure and simple.
 

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That $64 million is for the people, not the Taliban. And it's a drop in the bucket compared to the $1+ billion pledged by the rest of the world. Milley is actually a hero when you think of what was done by Nixon's secretary of state in August of 1974. They did the exact same thing to Nixon as Milley did to Trump.
 

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With a bit more than 20% of the vote counted in California 70% is against recalling Newsom and 30% is in favor of it. I guess we can look forward to Republicans saying there was voter fraud. :LOL:

With more than 60% of the vote counted in California NBC has called the recall of Newsom a failure with 68% against and 32% for the recall.
 
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With a bit more than 20% of the vote counted in California 70% is against recalling Newsom and 30% is in favor of it. I guess we can look forward to Republicans saying there was voter fraud. :LOL:

With more than 60% of the vote counted in California NBC has called the recall of Newsom a failure with 68% against and 32% for the recall.
Yep. Newsom is so ubiquitously hated he can’t even show his face in public, yet he got 66% of the vote? 😂😂😂 I’ve got some ocean front land for sale in Kansas for you Paul ! Lol.
As long as Democrats can do mail in “voting” republicans will never win an election again. And we all know why. Does anyone here still think we can vote our way out of this problem?? If so, I’ve got additional ocean front properties for sale in Nebraska and Wyoming as well.
 

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Yep. Newsom is so ubiquitously hated he can’t even show his face in public, yet he got 66% of the vote? 😂😂😂 I’ve got some ocean front land for sale in Kansas for you Paul ! Lol.
As long as Democrats can do mail in “voting” republicans will never win an election again. And we all know why. Does anyone here still think we can vote our way out of this problem?? If so, I’ve got additional ocean front properties for sale in Nebraska and Wyoming as well.

The reason Republicans can't win in California is because Democrats outnumber them 2 to 1. That is the registered Republicans and the registered Democrats. And the Trumpier the candidate running as the GOP contender the less likely they are to receive votes. The reason they could count those votes is because every registered voter got a mail in ballot just like they do in my state. This is what real access to the vote looks like. Republicans in states that are restricting voting are saying that they are making it easier for people to vote while making it harder to cheat. But, that is nonsense as there was no mass fraud in the last election in any state. There are at least 6 states that mail out ballots to every registered voter and turnout in those states is always high. Newsom is far from hated in California. He got 61% of the vote in 2018 and got an even higher % of the vote this time.
 

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The reason Republicans can't win in California is because Democrats outnumber them 2 to 1. That is the registered Republicans and the registered Democrats. And the Trumpier the candidate running as the GOP contender the less likely they are to receive votes. The reason they could count those votes is because every registered voter got a mail in ballot just like they do in my state. This is what real access to the vote looks like. Republicans in states that are restricting voting are saying that they are making it easier for people to vote while making it harder to cheat. But, that is nonsense as there was no mass fraud in the last election in any state. There are at least 6 states that mail out ballots to every registered voter and turnout in those states is always high. Newsom is far from hated in California. He got 61% of the vote in 2018 and got an even higher % of the vote this time.
Whatever helps you sleep at night 🤷‍♂️
BREAKING: THE WHOLE COUNTRY ALREADY TURNED IN THEIR MAIL-IN BALLOT FOR THE 2022 ELECTION. GUESS WHO WON??
 

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Yeah, I don't listen to Sean Hannity on Fox News. That is a recipe for being misled into believing the election system in our country is fraudulent despite no evidence. This is a propaganda site that feeds the Trump narrative. You should pick any other major TV news outlet. There you will get another view. You know there are now far fewer registered Republicans in this country and that didn't happen by accident. Trump has driven away the thinking Republicans and all that's left are the ones who want to hold onto power no matter how.
 

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Lol, this could get very interesting.....

 

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Well, it seems Trump's ability to move his base to take up his baseless claims is losing ground as the numbers who showed up so far to protest the J6 Capital arrests today have been small. About 150 people. I expect his influence over Republicans to decrease as time moves forward. New polls show that the numbers of Republicans that believe the "big lie" to be at an all time low. That is great for our democracy.

The Washington Post today:

Donald Trump's complaints that the election in DeKalb County, Georgia has become pitiful lately. He doesn't even claim fraud as that ship has long sailed. He now claims that delays in moving ballots there are somehow a reason to disqualify 43,000 votes there. He has continued to ask Brad Raffensperger to shift the state's votes to him, but without so much as a reason to do such a thing other than the delays. The numbers that were in DeKalb for Biden were increased by 3.9% over those that went for Clinton in 2016, but that is totally in line with votes in Texas where Harris County increased ballots for Biden over Clinton by 5% as well as in other counties like Travis and Dallas. But, Trump doesn't claim that these are out of the ordinary at all. :LOL:
 




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