Politics and General Debates Thread

[paul1598419]

The amount of grasping onto wet dreams by Trump supporters is becoming unbelievable. A Commonwealth Judge in Pennsylvania is not going to stop anything for long. You keep forgetting you need evidence of fraud when you go into court. So far the Trump campaign has come up with NONE! This may end up being a blip that will be resolved tomorrow as the Trump campaign cannot show something that did not happen. Look for this to be over by then. You forget that even without Pennsylvania Biden still wins this, but he'll have that state too. It's a shame you've hung onto the false complains of a narcissist that cannot concede and I expect he never will. It is all about him. He will be facing many lawsuits and state and possibly Federal charges, so keep sending him your hard earned money.

 

[Unown (WILD)]

The amount of grasping onto wet dreams by Trump supporters is becoming unbelievable. A Commonwealth Judge in Pennsylvania is not going to stop anything for long. You keep forgetting you need evidence of fraud when you go into court. So far the Trump campaign has come up with NONE! This may end up being a blip that will be resolved tomorrow as the Trump campaign cannot show something that did not happen. Look for this to be over by then. You forget that even without Pennsylvania Biden still wins this, but he'll have that state too. It's a shame you've hung onto the false complains of a narcissist that cannot concede and I expect he never will. It is all about him. He will be facing many lawsuits and state and possibly Federal charges, so keep sending him your hard earned money.

Do you know what "wet dreams" are?

 

[blueasthesky]

Are you challenged mentally? He never once stated a bet where you lose no matter what. I'm baffled by most if not all of your comments on this thread. I honestly think you might have a cognitive issue

I feel like members have been taking our ease of moderating for granted. Insulting a member of being mentally challenged is borderline for a ban as the rules are to respect one another.

This is a warning to everyone that you don’t have to agree, but please stay respectful. Thanks!

-Alex

 

[ArcticDude]

I feel like members have been taking our ease of moderating for granted. Insulting a member of being mentally challenged is borderline for a ban as the rules are to respect one another.

This is a warning to everyone that you don’t have to agree, but please stay respectful. Thanks!

-Alex

I will totally second you Alex!

 

[RedCowboy]

I feel like members have been taking our ease of moderating for granted. Insulting a member of being mentally challenged is borderline for a ban as the rules are to respect one another.

This is a warning to everyone that you don’t have to agree, but please stay respectful. Thanks!

-Alex

Asking someone if they are mentally challenged is nothing like calling someone a retard or asking someone if they are retarded !

Retard is a derogatory term but " mentally challenged " is the politically correct way to say it and that question is not outrageous or abusive, I know I have heard paul ask that before, Hap/Blueasthesky you have gone a bit far on this one, asking someone " Are you mentally challenged ? " in this context is not the same as asking someone if they are a " retard " or a " window licker " or even a " Jerry's kid " it's comparable to asking " Are you Crazy ? " .......which is common speech...........ACTUALLY asking " Are you mentally challenged ? " is a nicer way of saying " Are you crazy ? " in this context which again is common speech ! There's even a song named " Are you crazy " and a million articles that start off " Are you crazy " it's common speech.

The words " mentally challenged " are not curse words, actually it's the way we are supposed to say it...........are you suggesting we can't say " mentally challenged " ???? If so I have to ask you, ARE YOU CRAZY ?

 

[paul1598419]

I have not called anyone here any names except that they are misinformed. On the other hand I personally get called all sorts of things here. When someone doesn't have the facts on their side that is often the fall back position. That is why I know I'm and have been winning this debate. The more I'm called some derogatory name it shows the person calling me that has nothing else. But, being the only member to defend the true position I know it is my duty to continue to show the facts. Since the Pennsylvania Supreme Court already ruled against Trump I don't even see that a Commonwealth judge even has the authority to do what you claim she has. Besides these ring wing blogs I can't find corroboration of this anywhere.

Trump is playing the only game he has left....to plead for donations which has been working, though the high contributors have abandoned this ship over 3 weeks ago, Trump started pulling in $10 million a day from this supporters. He is putting that money into his pockets and you are wasting your money on his lying claims that this will be resolved in his favor and will get a second term. It won't be, but keep sending him your hard earned dollars. He has always been a grift and that will never change. I couldn't be more happy to see him gone and that is backed up by over 80 million voters who broke that record to put Biden in the White House.

 

[Unown (WILD)]

Asking someone if they are mentally challenged is nothing like calling someone a retard or asking someone if they are retarded !

Retard is a derogatory term but " mentally challenged " is the politically correct way to say it and that question is not outrageous or abusive, I know I have heard paul ask that before, Hap/Blueasthesky you have gone a bit far on this one, asking someone " Are you mentally challenged ? " in this context is not the same as asking someone if they are a " retard " or a " window licker " or even a " Jerry's kid " it's comparable to asking " Are you Crazy ? " .......which is common speech...........ACTUALLY asking " Are you mentally challenged ? " is a nicer way of saying " Are you crazy ? " in this context which again is common speech ! There's even a song named " Are you crazy " and a million articles that start off " Are you crazy " it's common speech.

The words " mentally challenged " are not curse words, actually it's the way we are supposed to say it...........are you suggesting we can't say " mentally challenged " ???? If so I have to ask you, ARE YOU CRAZY ?

I guess we have a tighter leash now

 

[RedCowboy]

Asking someone " Are you crazy ? " in the context we say it here is typically referring to what someone just said, it's not abusive and calling paul a liar is not name calling because paul is in fact a liar, I will not hold my tongue on that when I catch him lying again and again.

 

[Unown (WILD)]

He certainly does love repeating himself. It's weird how he chose to say "wet dream" instead of "pipe dream". Saying wet dream means there's a sexual attraction to trump being president which is really disturbing.

 

[Benjamax]

Moderating insults is like saying forum participants aren't capable of independently judging the "perpetrator" for themselves. I trust people are generally wise enough so it becomes counterproductive for whoever is verbally abusing others, and their case gets a lot less or no weight at all, in the eyes of others. Furthermore we're all adults here. Artificially creating safe spaces is something little kids require. If the forum owner wants it that way it's totally his right. It'd be silly, but the forum is like a private property.
If you wish to keep this debate free, there are very few things that should be moderated. Not to be inconsistent and baseless, follow the spirit of the law in most free countries. So in general, not allowing: calls to break the law, incite physical violence, doxing, libel and defaming etc.. It's really quite simple.

 

[RA_pierce]

If Biden gets the presidency, the USA is never going to be free again. Ever...

1. Right wingers said the same thing about Obama but look at how nothing changed in 12 years.
2. You think the country is "free" right now? Define "free."
The reality is that all the things you fear are real RIGHT NOW, as I've said before, but nobody wants to address that issue.
The media and tech companies determine what kind of speech is "acceptable" and what isn't.
Democracy in this country is fake because both the Democratic and Republican parties take bribes from the same billionaire donors and because they make it impossible for third parties to become viable.
Populist movements are always crushed by the establishment because they threaten the status quo. Workers' rights and unions have been getting crushed since the 1980s as corporate power has come to unequaled dominance.
This is all happening now, even with Trump as president. This has been happening for decades. If you think you're free under Trump, it's because you've bought into the media narrative you enthusiastically decry.

The democratic party has been taken over by its fringes... They would annihilate any independent thinking media.

Any claim that Joe Biden is even remotely close to a fringe leftist is just silly. He's basically a republican with a "D" next to his name.
Don't take my word for it. Look at his voting record and you'll see.
The real left wing of this country hardly has any power at all. It's the neoliberal DNC machine that still owns the left.

Eventually any political values and ideals that are contrary to those of what today is perceived as a fringed organized left would be so oppressed, diminished and minimized, that the entire political system would turn into what is virtually a one-party-system or mostly one-party-domination, like we've seen in socialistic regimes throughout history and... in the great state of California.

Are you saying California is socialist? That's one of the silliest things I've ever seen on this forum so far. Explain how this is so.
I live in California. California is as conservative as Texas when it comes to everything except firearm regulation and public education.

Once leftist authoritarian forces come to power, they never relinquish it peacefully. They managed to pull off this insane unprecedented election fraud before they were in power.

Like I said, it's not the "radical left" that did this, it's the suburban democrats and the DNC. If the radical left was in charge, we'd have Bernie as our president-elect.

... the first priority of a second Trump administration must be to make sure such election fraud can never happen again.

Ok, so you're saying "left wing authoritarianism bad; right wing authoritarianism good." Gotcha.
It's ok if you don't believe in democracy and prefer a dictator as long as it's "your dictator." Just own up to it. Its a valid opinion to have.

The mail-in ballot system must be terminated.
You want to vote you must personally arrive at a center no effing games and needy excuses!
The use of voting machines or other computer technology in the voting and counting process must be permanently terminated. Only paper should be used with signatures and overseeing of many watchers that are involved.

I agree that computers have a lot of vulnerabilities and I prefer paper ballots but what's wrong with mail-in ballots? Citizens should be allowed to vote. Not everyone always has the ability to get to a physical polling location especially when it poses a risk to your health due to a highly contagious virus spreading around the country. A vote is a vote. If the democracy is going to be representative, we should get votes from everyone we can. There is and has never been any evidence to suggest voter fraud is a substantial threat to democracy. Instead, it's gerrymandering and disenfranchisement (done by both political parties) that is the real mode of election fraud.
You won't hear that from mainstream media or from conservative-slanted blogs.

 

[paul1598419]

I've been voting by mail for nearly 20 years. It is the way they vote in Colorado and in Washington State. Hell, even Alaskan has to vote by mail because he lives outside the the country. This mail in voter fraud is a Trump claim because he knew that he would lose because it allows more people to vote, but even Republicans are elected because of it.

 

[RedCowboy]

 

[Alaskan]

 

[paul1598419]

Georgia certified their results. Except for a minor procedural case in Arizona which didn't change any votes, the Trump campaign has lost ALL its lawsuits. They do continue to allege on social media, without evidence, that there was fraud. Now Trump is claiming the states must prove, yet again, that these votes were legitimate. This is just a scam to get his supporters to send him more money.

The third circuit Federal Court of Appeals just shot down Trump's claims of fraud in Pennsylvania. A Trump appointed judge wrote that, "claiming fraud without evidence doesn't make it so." All this while Trump says he will appeal all the way to the SCOTUS. But, with this track record it likely won't go far.

 

[Unown (WILD)]

Georgia certified their results. Except for a minor procedural case in Arizona which didn't change any votes, the Trump campaign has lost ALL its lawsuits. They do continue to allege on social media, without evidence, that there was fraud. Now Trump is claiming the states must prove, yet again, that these votes were legitimate. This is just a scam to get his supporters to send him more money.

The third circuit Federal Court of Appeals just shot down Trump's claims of fraud in Pennsylvania. A Trump appointed judge wrote that, "claiming fraud without evidence doesn't make it so." All this while Trump says he will appeal all the way to the SCOTUS. But, with this track record it likely won't go far.