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hakzaw1

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WTF???

lets say that 99% of the 'claimed lies' are false.
THIS is NOT a lie-Trump said 'mostly old people are dying-- and they were gong to die soon anyway!

is this what you want for your grandparents-- your Mom and DAD or YOU????
4 MORE YEARS of Trump/Pence = 4 more years of covid-

I get it-- Biden has his problems BUT-- anyone would be MUCH better that TRump--

I respect your loyatly to the GOP= I rwally do= just do what it right-- send TRump away.. he is rich so nothing we can do will change that.
He has gotten the Covid and survived- so he is MYB safe now -- but cares nothing about ME surviving. (73 & 3 of 4 BAD problems that make susrvival nearly impossible.)
Where will YOU fit into the coming history -- someone who got fooled or someone who cares more about PEOPLE from both parties..

Come up with a better choice in 4 years I promise I will vote for them].
just remove ONE of your fingers from your ears and listen..

The pandemic is NOT going away -- please tell me why some many at trumps supporters were not wearing masks and stay away 6 feet?? (BTW experts are now saying that 6 feet is not enough needs to be 12 feet.)

Non-partisen experts are 100% in agreement-- CDC, WHO and all others are very afraid.. thier predictions of another surge or more WILL happen if we do not do WHAT IS RIGHT!!

AND you are even more foolish by counting on one of the vacciens working and doing that QUICKLY.

Stop the PANDEMIC --stop TRUMP -_you really do not have any real other choices!!

LOCKDOWNS are going to come back
The only REAL question is WHEN..
The news from other countries is very bad--

TELL your loved-ones everday that you love them- you may not have much time to do that
who you vote for is private--nobodies biz but yours--

If you must, just lie about voting Biden-do that- its clear which choice is best.

The race is so close that your vote may just be what is needed to stop this CRAZY SHIT!!

I am getting robo calls every day about voting for Trump enough $$ has been spent by all that would make a diff.

AND BTW-- troops of soldiers are sent to stop protests by any way-- what about sending troops to stop the fires in the west,>>
THAT would be much better--& please do not try to tell me that those protesting armed and carring a confedertt flag
are ALL liberals== you are too smart to fall for that.

The 2nd ammendent is not ONLY about carring arms when protesting.

Owning arms is my right- for me nothing will change that---NOTHING.
ONLY one person at Kent Sate was armed and he was an undercover cop.
I was there.
& I was at almost all protests - from '68 on and War Protestor Jeff Miller was a friend--he was shot in the head at KSU.
his 'crime' he had the audicity to throw tear gas caniters BACK.
Two others killed were on thier way to a class hundreds of feet away.

I covered '68 DEM convention (photographer)- DC peace march- Chicago- and more.
I was partying with 500,000 at Woodstock-- no guns there-no problems that WE could not solve
-NO POLICE.
Looters have no other agenda-- they are NOT republicans or democrats .


SO how will history say about YOU?

USA first-- it not political= its the AMERICAN way--







ITS okay to lie-- Trump does that all the time...
 



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Unfortunately, Len, we are in the midst of another increase in cases already. Trump has taken credit for ending this pandemic here today. It is pure lunacy. Even Trump's precious stock market is in free fall again because the infections are still so fluid. I am encouraged by the numbers of people who have already voted so far.
 

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Biden has NO FIX !
Biden has NO ANSWERS !
Biden has NO CURE !

Locking down the country and throwing us into a depression is not the answer, it's dam sure not a fix and it's no cure.

It's real easy to say " I'm not happy Wahhhh " and blame the President for everything but the man doesn't make the weather and no nation on Earth has fixed, cured or come up with an answer to covid, it's an airborne virus and chances are we will all have caught it before it's over....hell it may be the new FLU that never goes away, but putting thieves in charge just because they promise a handout is not going to change anything in a productive way, it will make things worse.

If our country is so full of simple minds who don't know the value of freedom then maybe our time is drawing near.

Biden/Harris and the democrats have become too radical, when their lust for power goes too far and civil unrest becomes a way of life covid won't be the biggest threat every day when you walk out the door, when Marxist democrats pack the supreme court and there are no more checks and balances left against their unbridled tyranny push will come to shove out in the streets and you will all wish for the good old days when you sat about fat and happy bitching about Trump, do you think fighting an airborne virus will be easier during a depression ? Do you think fighting a virus will be easier without law and order ? Look at the liberal cities and see what our nation would become.

 
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Yeah, just look at South Korea's response to the virus that came to them at the exact same time ours did. They have 1.3% of the deaths per capita that we have because they took this seriously early and rolled out competent testing and contact tracing. Biden has not called for locking down the country at all, but he does have a plan for getting it under control. It is a Republican wet dream that Biden only wants to lock down and crash the economy, but it was Trump's mismanagement that did that.

Just six days until Goodbye to Donald Trump.
 

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"Outsiders" and "Sky News" notwithstanding, what the hell does Wales have to do with the US? It certainly isn't predictive of what is going to happen here, especially once Biden is elected. Maybe in a Trump lame duck term. I put nothing past that narcissist once he loses.
 

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Biden does not have a plan for covid, only listening to any scientist who says lock them down, Biden wants to lock down the country and make us socialist, everyone dependent on government, he will start a revolution, the American people are not going to stay locked down and it WON'T STOP COVID ! But that's not what it's really about now is it ? NOPE !
 

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BTW, South Korea's population is 51,269,188. With 461 total deaths that is a per capita of 0.0009%. Ours is ~0.07%. Their's is 1.28% of ours. Much better than 1.3%.

Keep telling yourself that Biden is going to lose. That will make the shock that much more compelling. This is low hanging fruit, but last night Trump held a rally in Omaha, Nebraska. People were shuttled there from their cars a few miles way. When Trump left at 9 P.M. they stood in the 10 degree F weather for 3 hours waiting for buses while Trump was nice and toasty in his taxpayer funded plane while at least 7 people were hospitalized. Talk about out of touch!
 
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In the US people with covid who died are counted as covid deaths, not just people who died from covid so the actual death rate is much lower, many of the elderly who died WITH covid would have died soon anyway........say what you want but that's a fact, someone with cancer and a month left to live who dies WITH covid didn't really die FROM covid and most of the US covid " counted " deaths are old people with other health problems...........point is we don't need to lock down people under 50 or even under 60 who don't have other health issues or those who have recovered........POINT BLANK covid has been hyped and blown way out of proportion in order to be exploited for political gain. 7500 Americans die every day from natural causes mostly heart disease and cancer, covid is but a fraction of that and piggybacks on most of those who were sick anyway, covid is not the world ending event it has been hyped to be and many of us have already had it and don't know it, I have gotten over something myself that could be covid and I wear a mask every time I go anywhere.

People are more concerned about rioting and looting in democrat run cities than covid.

 

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You know what else is interesting? The NPR reported today that when Trump crony, John Ratcliffe the appointed Director of National Intelligence, said in a televised report that Russia and Iran sent emails to registered Democrats that they were the "Proud Boys" and the Democrats should vote for Trump, "or else", and that this was done to hurt Trump politically he just made up that last part because it sounded better politically. This was confirmed by the current FBI director and CIA Director. So, you push some nonsense about Hunter Biden's sexuality and I'll just report the truth.

Still trying to push that false narrative that we are over counting covid deaths here. Actually, many actuaries, including UW Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation, have concluded that more than 80,000 people have died this year than expected. Most believe these are under counted covid cases. I don't see that reelecting Trump this time around. You're gonna have to do much better than that if you want to have a chance.
 
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In the US people with covid who died are counted as covid deaths, not just people who died from covid so the actual death rate is much lower, many of the elderly who died WITH covid would have died soon anyway........say what you want but that's a fact, someone with cancer and a month left to live who dies WITH covid didn't really die FROM covid and most of the US covid " counted " deaths are old people with other health problems...........point is we don't need to lock down people under 50 or even under 60 who don't have other health issues or those who have recovered........POINT BLANK covid has been hyped and blown way out of proportion in order to be exploited for political gain. 7500 Americans die every day from natural causes mostly heart disease and cancer, covid is but a fraction of that and piggybacks on most of those who were sick anyway, covid is not the world ending event it has been hyped to be and many of us have already had it and don't know it, I have gotten over something myself that could be covid and I wear a mask every time I go anywhere.

People are more concerned about rioting and looting in democrat run cities than covid.

So true RCB ... (y)

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Hakzaw I know you are afraid of covid because you have health issues but you can't expect the whole country to lock themselves indoors in the hopes that it will change anything, it hasn't, covid is not stopped this way and you are better off locking yourself indoors alone and let everyone else get out and catch it, pass it and build herd immunity then you will be safe, locking everyone indoors just drags it out longer but Marxists want socialism and think this is a way to get it, but Americans won't go for it, we just might see a bloody revolution which for the record I do not want.

paul is a liar and he knows that BS about people making threatening phone calls had nothing to do with Trump yet paul says if I dare to tell the truth he will tell his brand of truth, this whole election is rooted in misinformation and paul has carried the dirty water of the left all the way, paul is the most dishonest hippy I have ever known and should be ashamed of himself, paul just wants other peoples hard work/money in his socialism check and decriminalized dope.

@ Benjamax : Yes and the main stream liberal media won't cover the story because it's against Biden, this has been a mass misinformation campaign fostered by liberal special interests and it will cost us all if they get their puppets in power.
 
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hakzaw1

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'in the hopes that it will change anything
are you kidding?
you have to be either kidding or just plain blind.
Masks and social distance are effective. Just look at other small countries with LOT of uneffected and way less deaths.

you know less than nothing about me!

and 'hippies' wtf ????
your middle username MUST be 'neck'
whats next? 'git a a rope'
 




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