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paul1598419

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That is why I used a Fox News poll in post #2139 yesterday. You can hardly call those liberal polls. What will you do when Trump actually fails, yet again, and is out of office in January? I won't insult you like you did me, but it is a fair question. It was likely because few actually knew Trump that he got elected in 2016 by a mere 77,000 votes in battleground states he is losing big now, but they sure know him now.

John Wayne was an abusive drunk and I have hated him my whole life. If you wish to change my mind try someone else. I can tell you many John Wayne stories where his drunken abuse was well known.


Here's an article in the Times about that Ben Sasse phone call and his 9 minute bash of Trump.


Even though Trump was on NBC and several cable networks last night and Biden was only on ABC, Trump lost the ratings war by 3 million, 10 million to 13 million.
 
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I didn't say anything about how fantastically wrong you were last time after your constant droning about the polls when Hillary lost until after you started bashing Trump in an underhanded way, to say people around Trump have been convicted as though that makes Trump wrong/bad is easy when they have been scrutinized like nobody else, not like the treatment Hillary received, democrats are some of the most corrupt dishonest control mongers and you engage in the same kind of " political speak " which is intentionally misleading.
IDGAF what you say after the election, you are not important, I post here because other people read, people who may still be deciding and you play the "political speak " game which again is intentionally misleading.
 
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Hillary Clinton had an investigation into her emails announced during the last weeks in 2016, while the investigation into Trump which was of great consequence, was unknown to voters at the time. Did you read what Ben Sasse said? I doubt it as it wouldn't fit your Trumpy narrative and you have to watch only Fox News and right wing Blogs to not see that kind of stuff. Take a moment and read the Times article. It is worth that much effort.
 

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Pelosi is working up a Presidential fitness panel not for Trump but to replace Biden with Harris ASAP if he wins.

@Paul: The times article wants me to log in and I don't have a facebook account or apple.

The democrat party has been taken over by radical socialist and Marxist who are pushing communism, just the extreme things democrats have threatened should frighten everyone and if you think you would get a free this and free that then think again.
 
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Anyone can die anytime. Nancy Pelosi is not trying to groom Harris as president if Biden wins. That is just Trumpy nonsense. Huh, my NY Times articles have always been available in the past when I was able to post them. Never needed a Facebook account before. Are you certain? Can anyone else let me know if this is the case with this one? I subscribe to the Times, so I don't need anything to look at any of them.

That communist nonsense is not going to win the presidency or the Senate this year as voters don't believe that at all. Fear mongering won't work for you or Trump in a little over two weeks.
 

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Fear mongering and hate, false claims of racism, hate, hate and hate is what libearals have been pushing against Trump, but people don't want socialism and not everyone is falling for the liberal BS. Democrats would pack the scotus and add States to pack the senate, people don't want that, I don't see dems winning control of the senate after what they have said.
 

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Trump has been a racist since he learned to be so from his father, Fred. That is just a fact and his persecution of immigrants trying to get a hearing in our courts, a right all immigrants get, is just more of the same. Biden is far from a hateful guy and if you listened to any of his campaign speeches you'd know that. But, you are a Trump die hard and that's your fault. I believe Biden will win, hopefully by a huge margin as seems to be the case from early voting. But, Trump is losing BIG in all the polls nationally as well as in swing states.

A new study from the World Health Organization shows remdesivir to be useless against the cornavirus, leaving us with only one treatment, dexamethasone, a corticosteroid that has been around for at least 45 years. This is the largest study so far including more than 11,000 patients and more than 2700 who actually took the drug. Guess those billions used by the EU and the US were just a waste of money.
 
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Trump is not a racist no matter how many times you say it, he is not........but hell you said you are a racist and everyone is a racist to some extent, so what you think of Trump really is of no consequence.

Trump has done a fantastic job implementing his warp speed program to combat this novel Chinese plague which was manipulated in a Chinese lab......yes Chinese researchers stole the corona virus strain from a Canadian research lab and manipulated it in a Chinese lab, I still don't know if the release was an accident or not but I know normally it would take years to come up with any kind of a vaccine but thanks to President Trump we are close to releasing a vaccine and in record time.

Trump built the greatest economy in the history of the world and he will do it again, even now we are recovering at an unexpected rate.

You can not count Trump out, he absolutely could win reelection and all you have to go on are polls which have and always will be flawed, there is a silent majority so unless democrat cheating is allowed to deny the American people 4 more years of a Great American who cares instead installing a mentally challenged dottering old crook then we will have to suffer through, should democrats win control of the house and senate as well then we still have the courts to strike down unconstitutional legislation......should democrats ever actually pack the scotus then I expect the fuse will have been lit, nothing is forever.

I think Americans are smarter than that, radical marxist democrats have already laid out thier tyranical plans, it's not what our free country has or ever was meant to be and I don't see it being enabled based on hate, that's the democrat brand today, hate ........and hate only brings more of the same.
 

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I do believe everyone is racist to some degree, but Trump is overtly racist and always has been since his days in the 1970s when he omitted "colored" people from his rental properties and was forced to pay fines for that.

Geeze, where did you get that Covid was stolen from a Canadian lab and manipulated in a Chinese one? That is just absolute nonsense as manipulated viruses are easily identified. That is the CRAZIEST theory I've heard so far. If you actually knew anything about viruses you would know this already.

Trump inherited the best economy from Obama, but because everything is about him, he ran it into the ground. Still, in Obama's last three years in office he created more jobs than Trump did in his first three. That was before Covid. These are all easily Googled stats.

Keep calling Democrats Marxist and see how that works for you. Good Bye To Donald Trump Now.

If Trump were winning why is he on the defense in Georgia? That has been a GOP stronghold for decades!
 

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I don't believe everyone is racist, Trump has done more for African Americans than Obama ever did. 1970.....please get real, who is the same as they were 50 years ago ?

If you didn't get all your news from the liberal media you might learn something, you downplayed this virus when I was sounding the alarm, you got it wrong.

Trump cut taxes and built the Greatest economy in history, Obama was a turd mired down in so called " phony scandals " that weren't phony.

Democrats have become radical Marxists and have threatened to destroy the foundations of our democracy.

Trump will win because Americans don't want socialism. Some polls have had Trump ahead, however I don't put much value in the polls.
 

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It's too bad you Trump supporters are all so damaged. I've been watching the 2 hour program on MSNBC about Pete Souza, who was the photographer for both Reagan and Obama. It was a great program and would recommend it to everyone.

Trump is racist in his views on immigrants since taking office. His policy on separating children from their parents will go down in history. The guy is who he has always been. As Bob Woodward put it on his finish to "Rage", Trump just wasn't up to the job. More former Republicans now feel that they cannot support such a racist, narcissistic person again. He is transactional as he only sees what benefits himself. It is sad for the GOP because you guys are gonna lose BIG this year. Take your hate with you.
 
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It's too bad you believe your own BS
Trump is not a racist but Biden is and a creepy pedophile to boot.
Obama put illegal immigrants children in those same chain link holding pens so stop with the false narrative.
Hate for Trump is what your whole campaign is based on, Biden has nothing to offer except he's not Trump.
You can take your Trump derangement syndrome, obsessive Trump hatred, lies and liberal propaganda with you, last time when you got it all wrong and Hillary lost you disappeared for a while, it was a pleasant break, I look forward to you going away again.
 
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I've been called racist once, by the most racist black man I've ever known..... Why? Because I judged him to have very poor work ethics for not showing up for work on time, usually two to three hours late nearly every work day, but he wouldn't accept that as the reason because he was so damn racist he couldn't see past it. Paul, are you projecting on Trump? I cannot see him racist in any way.
 

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OMG, you believe that Qanon nonsense about Democrats and celebrities being pedophiles?! You have been taken over by Trumpism! That is such a bad .look for you. You truly have been taken over by Trump. So sad! Well, enjoy it while you can. It's about to go away forever along with much of the Senate. :LOL:
 




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