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Democrats put forward a 2 TRILLION dollar bill full of pork for pet projects that have nothing to do with covid because they don't want any more relief until after the election, democrats want people hungry because they think it will help Biden at the polls.

Biden doesn't have a plan, Biden doesn't have anything, someone wrote a plan for Biden and Biden read about if off a tel-prompter because Biden can't even answer questions.......Biden pretends to answer questions by reading someone elses answers of the prompter.........voting for Biden means people behind the scenes will be doing who knows what and Biden will sign where they tell him to sign, this would be very dangerous.

Biden simply is not fit to serve.
 



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Hilarious! Everything you've said about Biden fits Trump perfectly. Biden said, "just watch the two of us and you decide who is having trouble walking and holding to the issues." Peter Navarro was interviewed yesterday by CNN, which went terribly off the rails for Navarro. He wanted to tout Trump's closing Travel from China and said Biden said Trump was xenophobic and had to apologize. This was pointed out to be totally false. Then Navarro wanted to change the subject to the Woodward interviews which was fine with the CNN reporter. He played a clip of Trump's recorded response to Woodward's questions and another of a physician from CNN who asked Trump about the virus two weeks later. Navarro tried to change the subject again, but the CNN reporter was having none of that by then. Navarro never did answer the question of how Trump wasn't lying when he knew two weeks earlier how deadly thus virus is. This was in the Post this morning.

Trump held another indoor campaign rally in Nevada yesterday showing, yet again, how little he cares for his base as they were all mostly maskless. Look for a new spike in Nevada in a couple weeks.
 

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Nonsense, no one man is to blame for a global virus that no nation on earth had any chance of preventing.

Trump kept people from freaking out in sheer panic while we learned more details about a novel virus, it was the right thing to do.

So it's ok for people to protest in mass but not go to a church mass ? Hypocrite much ?

I heard Biden is blaming Trump for wild fires, also I heard that a man leaving a bar last night stepped off a curb and fell flat on his face........dam that Trump, this is all his fault, Trump should make curbs near bars rounder........Biden will do a better job for bar room patrons .........and you know something ? I have this pimple on my ass........I named it paul....... paul's head is full of infected puss and paul is a pain in the ass :D Still I know my pimple is Trumps fault because paul says everything is Trumps fault.

In an interview Biden read off a teleprompter and still looked confused as he stumbled on his words and claimed " I should just shut up. " You know I agree with that much.

See you at the debates Joe :ROFLMAO:

 

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Must be getting to you if you take these personal shots at me. :ROFLMAO:

It has been reported in both the NY Times and the Washington Post that Facebook has removed many altered videos of Biden. I guess when things look their worst, just cheat. Worked for Trump in 2016. Won't work this year. Yep, I'll see you at the debates. :LOL:
 

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As a democrat you have zero room to talk about cheating and YT censorship is just more democrat cheating........I know they don't like videos of what Biden says when he's not reading a teleprompter, if I was a democrat I wouldn't like it either.

I hope they hack the earpiece Biden will be wearing hidden deep in his ear, Biden is liable to repeat anything.......hey maybe you can claim that after he blathers like a fool at the debates. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Just so you know, things are about to get even worse for Trump as Bob Woodward's new book "Rage" is going to be released tomorrow along with more taped interviews with Trump on the record. Also, the New York Times has some new revelations about Mike Caputo who was part of Trump's last campaign and also lied to the impeachment committee about talking to the Russians about Clinton emails, with out so much as a degree in science, has been put in charge of what the CDC is allowed to release to the public. It makes for some great reading. Too bad Trump doesn't read.

Also, today, the Trump campaign was handed another defeat when the Green Party candidate that was put on the ballot last time and was helped to get back on the ballot by the Trump campaign for this one was turned down by the Wisconsin SC. The Board of Elections is working overtime tonight to print the new ballots so they can be ready to go out tomorrow. :LOL:

Last time the Green Party got more votes than the margin by which Clinton lost last time.
 
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There's a story in the New York Times today about the abuses suffered by women in immigrant detention facilities around the country. It turns out that an anti-abortionist named Scott Lloyd was put in charge by the Trump administration to oversee immigrant detention centers. He had no other qualifications to hold this position. He actually kept records of all the pregnant women and refused a 17 year old rape victim an abortion, saying, he "felt it wasn't in her best interest." For those who may not know this, abortion is a Constitutional right for ANY woman in this country regardless of citizenship. Fortunately, the young girl managed to get an attorney and Lloyd was overruled in court just in time for the girl to have her abortion.

But, this isn't the worst part of this story. Turns out that a physician at the Irwin Detention Facility in Georgia was giving women PAP smears and falsely claiming that they had cancer and needed an hysterectomy. Many women weren't even told why they were having these surgeries and most were unaware that they were being sterilized A nurse at this facility, turned whistle-blower, Ms. Wooten said that this particular physician was known as the uterus collector he performed so many of these of these unnecessary procedures. She witnessed many unnecessary removals of women's uteruses, fallopian tubes and ovaries. One immigrant woman had been told she had a cyst on her right ovary and the physician first removed the left one, then saying, "oops, I removed the wrong one" proceeded to remove the right one too. SHIT!!!!! This as been confirmed by NBC News who talked with 4 separate attorneys representing women who have had these unnecessary surgeries.

Oh, also in this story was the revelation that immigrant children are still being separated from their parents at many of these facilities!
 

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@ paul : You said in the NY times there was a " story " ..........that's about all the liberal " news " is these days, LMFAO talk about a conspiracy theory :ROFLMAO:

People file frivolous lawsuits all the time.

Oh and if you are not a citizen of the USA you DO NOT have any rights here yet California lets illegal aliens vote and obtain drivers licenses.

Hispanic Americans don't want a flood of illegals pouring into the country, they came here to get away from that mess and they dam sure don't want socialism or higher taxes and they want to keep their rights, Biden is losing Hispanic American support as well he should be.

Meanwhile the real news that has been suppressed keeps coming back up

 
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OMG, that "scientist" on Fox News has been debunked as a nonsense spreader long before now. She is literally one of just a handful of people spreading this theory. And, of course, even illegal immigrants in this country are protected by the US Constitution. If this had not been the case, the young rape victim in my posted story could not have won a lawsuit and gotten the abortion she asked for.

Turns out the Michael Caputo decided to take a leave of absence after he posted to social media that "gun owners should buy ammunition now as it will become impossible to get after this election." He apologized yesterday for these comments. :LOL:

It's all about spreading fear with you Trump supporters.
 
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While I enjoy RCB's responses quite a bit, can we just agree to disagree? Paul is trying hard, but nothing changes my mind he has brought forward yet. Bravo for trying though, you are a good man, just on the other side of the coin from me on these matters.
 

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I absolutely agree that we disagree. I try to bring the truth about what has been going on siting articles from newspapers famous for bringing us the Pentagon Papers in 1971 and bringing Nixon's reign to a swift end in 1974. I still can't understand how anyone can believe Fox News and site them as evidence of anything.

There's a new article in the Washington Post today showing the very possible route to Democratically control of the Senate. The Democrats only need to pick up 4 seats, 3 if they gain the presidency, with 13 chances to flip seats to Republican's 2. Trump seems to be the Republican's worst enemy here as he continues to meltdown in the face of losing polls. If you can somehow get access to this article, it is well worth the read.
 
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paul, you are a liar, that has been proven time and time again.......I actually saw you doctor an image to defend your BS when you were FLAT WRONG about a diffraction grating, your blanket claim about you bringing truth is worthless and comical at best, nothing you say should ever be trusted just like the democrats and liberal media, they lie so often and so much that it's impossible to trust them.

I may make mistakes or at times be misinformed but I don't make sh1t up like you do......" try to bring the truth " .......... " TRY " is the only possible honest thing you said there........try harder.

FOX NEWS IS FAR MORE ACCURATE THAN CNN !
paul can say otherwise but that's pauls opinion, not a fact, not even close.

p.s. That Chinese scientist will likely disappear/die for her honesty, just like Dr. Li and other Chinese researchers who have been silenced.



This video below states facts, now we have heard the Chinese researcher stole a corona strain from Canada and we have also heard otherwise, but this video is accurate, everything after this has been spun both ways.
Did covid come from nature YES
Did scientist work with covid in labs YES
Did scientist manipulate covid in labs YES
Is a Chinese lab responsible for a global panedimec.......Well we don't know for certain.........don't accept the easy answers........one man is NOT responsible for a global pandemic no matter how many times people with an agenda say it's one mans fault it's not.


 
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Jesus fuck, this thread is like watching a dumpster fire the size of the US erupt between of a fireworks factory and a hydrogen fueling station....

There's never conversation here. No insightful information is being shared. Just both sides screaming their heads off, generalizing and villainizing the other.

"ORANGE MAN BAD" *fires off a link or two*

"CROOKED HILLARY" *more links*

The American two party system has ultimately failed us. No longer are we viewing our fellow citizens as people but instead the enemy within our own boarder. So many people are fed up with the political climate in the US.
Why should we trust anyone who says that "we are of their best interest" if apparently everyone is corrupt?


Do you hear that?
Can you smell it in the air?

Something big is on the horizon. The winds of change are beginning to churn.

The US is overdue for an evolution. The swamp has been stagnant for far too long and I'm sorry to say, but our fearless leader won't be the one to drain it.

No, that shit needs to be razed and rebuilt. Reconstructed on the bases of facts and the interests of bettering our race and world overall.
 

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paul, you are a liar, that has been proven time and time again.......I actually saw you doctor an image to defend your BS when you were FLAT WRONG about a diffraction grating,
What are you talking about? Show me one post edited for content because the information was false. Mostly edit posts to add information or to remove spelling or grammar errors. I have had an understanding of diffraction gratings dating back to the late 1960s. Certainly in the 1970s when I was in college I did. Your continuous erroneous references about me are a pitiful attempt to discredit my contributions to this forum.

Edited for a spelling error.
 
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paul you said Trump would not last his 1st year in office.
paul you said Trump would not make it to midterm.
paul you said the Mueller report would remove Trump from office.

You did say these things and you later lied when you denied saying them.

Do you think you were wrong to downplay the corona virus, was it all conspiracy for people to be concerned about it ?
 

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First of all, you'll notice that this February post only said what we knew at that time. I didn't downplay the virus as you are trying to make out, but said we simply don't know yet IF this could be transmitted through fomites, or contact with surfaces that have been touched by infected people. That is a loooong way from lying about anything. I'm sure I said Trump shouldn't last in office and that the Mueller Report would be politically damning. Trump did get impeached after all and was voted for conviction by a bipartisan number of Senators. With Republican Senators afraid of Trump's base and because it takes a 2/3rds majority for conviction, I knew it would be highly unlikely he would be removed.

Try again. You have not succeeded in impugning my integrity.


Edited to insert your link to my lying post. Also today at a Congressional hearing, Dr. Redfield, head of the CDC, said a mask will protect you much better than the vaccine will. This, he said was because a vaccine may only be 50% effective, but a mask has been proven to be effective in many countries to "CONTAIN" the infection rate. This is in contravention to Trump's claim that a new vaccine coming out before the election will save his reelection campaign.

Edited for a typo.
 
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