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paul1598419

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Actually, Strzok talks about Hillary Clinton in his book. The investigation that the FBI did into her emails was extremely thorough and at the end everyone came to the same conclusion. She had committed no crime. Unfortunately, this was the only investigation people knew about prior to the 2016 election. No one knew about the one into the Trump campaign and the number of its member who were convicted of crimes or plead guilty. That $6 billion is a republican wet dream. Now everyone knows what Trump's campaign and later his administration have done. He and his campaign actually coordinated with Russian intelligence officers, giving the Russians polling data in battleground states so they could surgically target voters there to stay home and not vote. Trump has done nothing but disparage the military and the polls among them show this. You can disparage Biden to your hearts content, but he'll be the next president. :)
 
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Biden can't even answer questions on his own, Biden is reading the answers to mock questions off a prompter, Biden is not able to serve, electing Biden is really electing Kamala Harris and I don't think America wants that........democrats will cheat but it's not going to work in the end.........Biden will have an earpiece so his staff can spoon feed him answers at the debates, that's if Biden even shows up........Biden should have to show up and answer his own questions, the American people have a right to know how wiped out Biden really is and why he can't serve.
 
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You want to actually talk about Biden's gaffes when Trump has had the worst. Airports during the Revolutionary War and touting hydroxychloroquine which we now have 40 million doses of in the strategic stockpile, but are worthless against covid or any virus according to the FDA. Taking treatment advice from the "My Pillow" guy about an herb that will now never see the light of day? The list goes on and on. Trump can't even switch tacks as his campaign has tried to get him to do. He is the narcissistic, corrupt, conman he has always been.
 

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Biden is an old crook beltway insider who can not answer questions without a prompter feeding him the answers, that's a long freaking way from a few gaffs, Biden is simply not capable and can't serve......even if and I say IF Biden was elected he wouldn't be there for long until Kamila Harris took his place and the American people don't want Kamila " lock them up " Harris.

We will see how Biden holds up at the debates, if he fails there his chances are nil.
 

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It was just reported that a top deputy, Nora Dannehy, resigned from the Durham investigation in protest against the over-politicizing in this investigation. This is not surprising as the Mueller Report was exhaustive and came to the conclusion that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to benefit Donald Trump. It seems this is because the Durham report came to the same conclusion and Bill Barr is holding it back now.

In the Washington Post this morning......"The Trump administration flew immigrant detainees to Virginia this summer to facilitate the rapid deployment of Homeland Security tactical teams to quell protests in Washington, circumventing restrictions on the use of charter flights for employee travel , according to a current and former U.S. official."
After the transfer, dozens of new arrivals tested positive for the novel coronavirus, fueling an outbreak at the Farmville, Virginia immigration jail that infected more than 300 inmates, one of whom died. ICE said the agency moved detainees on "ICE Air" charter flights to avoid overcrowding at detention facilities in Arizona and Florida. But, a Department of Homeland Security official with direct knowledge of the operation said the primary reason was to skirt the rules that bar ICE employees from traveling on charter flights unless detainees are also aboard.
The transfers took place over the objections of ICE officials in the Washington field office, according testimony at a Farmville town council meeting in August, and at the time when immigration jails elsewhere had plenty of room. This was done to Justify the movement of the ICE SRT on June 1, when Trump had peaceful protesters cleared so he could have a photo op at St. Johns Church.
 
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The Mueller contort was a sham that Mueller didn't even write, it was composed by a hand picked team comprised of Trump haters who should not have been there as they all had personal animus against Trump, their shared goal was to bash Trump with innuendo and conjecture, a bunch of BS opinions and not much else, Trump was exonerated in spite of their concerted efforts.

The Obama admin. spied on Trump and abused FISA breaking rules and there were lies to keep the ruse going, still in the end Trump was exonerated, no collusion and no obstruction, but that didn't stop the power hungry democrats from attacking Trump, democrats who Trump had been preventing from their normal graft were mad and wanted Trump out of the way and they pulled out all the stops putting America through the Schiff sham while we should have been focused on the China virus.

The covid relief bills have put a smile on Pelosis face as she stuffs the bills with pork for her wealthy supporters........this is another reason we need 4 more years, the swamp still has many creatures and without Trump guarding the law books the monsters will feed on our taxes.

This is all old news and people already know how atrociously democrats have conducted themselves, just imagine these radical tyrants being in power.......NO THANKS and I don't think the voters want Kamala Harris signing the pork laden squander bills that democrats would craft if given the chance, no what we need is a Republican potus and congress to make America Great, not wallow in seething Trump hate.

 

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Obama had nothing to do with the DOJ investigating Trump. The reason they did was because Trump himself invited the Russians to interfere with the 2016 election on tape and Manafort had been in contact with Russian operatives. It would have been unconscionable not to investigate the Trump campaign. When the FBI interviewed Flynn, they knew he had been involved and, yet, gave him every opportunity to come clean. He refused to, some believing he would have to say it was at the direction of Donald Trump and he didn't want to do that. Still, he pleaded guilty to two different judges, but now wants a do over. Of course the Mueller Report wasn't done by Mueller himself as it was the culmination of evidence collected by many FBI agents and he was just in charge of the investigation. The report was never a prosecutorial report simply because the DOJ has a policy about not indicting a sitting president, but Mueller's report weighed in heavily on impeachment, which didn't happen for that reason, but because Trump actually tried to strong arm Ukraine to say they were opening an investigation into Biden, Trump's political rival. Everyone has a political agenda, but the people at the DOJ, whether Republican, Democrat or Independent, never allowed that to bias the report. If you got your news anywhere other than Fox or read the report yourself you would know that.

Get ready for Bill Barr to come out and mischaracterize the Durham report. No matter what it says we can all be certain that will happen.
 

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In 2016 the Obama/Biden Administration weaponized the FBI and Department of Justice against their political opponent candidate Donald Trump.
In 2017 they undermined the peaceful transition of power.
In 2018 their allies in the deep state and the media continued to push the Russia Collusion Hoax, they did this despite knowing that the Steele Dossier bought and paid for by Hillary and the democrats was entirely fabricated, discredited and full of Russian disinformation. Together these abuses of power represent the greatest political crime in American history and everyone involved in this plot to hurt our country must be held accountable for their corruption and perverting our democratic institutions especially dopey Joe Biden who actually committed a pay-for-play abuse of office crime involving his son in the corruption who basically admitted he illegally benefited from his father Joe Bidens political office.
It’s a good step in the right direction that an FBI official and key member of Robert Mueller’s team of angry Democrats has pled guilty to doctoring evidence to further the illegal spying operation against President Trump.

 
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Jon Meacham, world class historian with a PhD in history, was talking today about the numbers of people who believe in conspiracies. He said during the 1964 election when Goldwater was running against Johnson, we has the John Birch Society back then, a conspiracy that between 10% and 15% of the country believed in. This was an extension of McCarthyism where communism was a conspiracy against people and whatever happened you could be sure it was the communist's fault.......not yours. Goldwater lost that election big time carrying only his home state of Arizona. Take comfort in knowing this. Trumpism is on its last legs. A new poll out today shows Biden ahead in Florida making inroads with Hispanic voters while not losing any of the seniors who have abandoned Trump.

Today on the PBS News Hour they had a piece about people born today in 2001. A reporter interviewed many of them and though they had lived with school shootings all their lives they were mostly very optimistic about the future. What I found funny was that they thought millennials were cynical whiny people who were only out for themselves and it would be their generation who would put things straight in politics. Ah! The optimism of youth. I love it!
 

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It's not a conspiracy theory when teachers don't want parents to see what they are teaching, this is something that covid has brought to light as kids have been taking class at home on the computer, it's amazing how much of their day is spent being force fed the sickness they don't want parents to know about.

Soros has funded his " open society " to the tune of 32 Billion dollars and had an impact on school policy and not a small impact.......children being brainwashed in school in order to be used as tools of change does not inspire optimism in reasonable people who know that not all change is good change and there is a point where things have gone too far that a reaction and an overreaction can look reasonable to large numbers of people who otherwise would never engage is such. That's nothing to be optimistic about because the change you seek won't last if it comes on too fast and offends too many and the liberal agenda is doing just that.

Prohibition of alcoholic beverages may have been supported by a majority of voters but it came about too fast and a large enough minority was resistant enough that it ultimately failed.....forcing government workers to take diversity training and write apologies for their supposed white privileged is not going to further your agenda, it will create a backlash and see people like Trump elected.

Liberalism is a disease that turns cities into festering slums and robs young Americans of self reliance and creativity, it's destroying our country and our future as it's preparing young people to embrace and accept socialism which is the destruction of the American dream, the destruction of freedom and opportunity that people around the globe flock to America to realize, liberalism is a cancer everyone is becoming aware of and hopefully in time to stop and reverse the diseases that result from it.


 

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You assume a lot from the piece I posted about kids born yesterday in 2001. No one said their exuberance was a product of what they had been taught in school. In fact, they had gone through police presence in their schools and constant drills of what to do if a mass murderer enters school. Many generation Z people are old enough to vote this year, though. It's always one conspiracy after another with you. Enjoy the fear. Wait for the revolution that never comes when Trump loses.


There's a new article in the Washington Post today....."Atifa Myths".

Myth 1 Antifa is a single organization. This has been propagated by Trump and Barr as they have called this a Terrorist Organization, but antifa is a loosely affiliated group of ideas that are held by it's proponents. Mainly they are against racism, government, the police, and fascists. You can't round up ideas and prosecute them.

Myth 2 Atifa masterminds violence at Black Lives Matter protests. Antifa is too splintered and has too few members to foment violence anywhere. People who do believe in the antifa movement are anti-racists and that is why the alt-right uses them as tropes.

Myth 3 Antifa is affiliated with the Democratic Party. Being against government, people who believe the antifa message don't associate with any Party. Joe Biden has often said he is against the antifa movement. This myth is perpetrated by the alt-right.

Myth 4 Antifa is funded by liberal financiers like George Soros. This is a true fascist meme against a Jewish person. In actuality, no one person finances antifa and their infrequent fund raisers are held mainly to obtain funds for medical and legal aid.

Myth 5 Antifascists are the "real fascists". Recently Barr described antifa as deploying "fascist" tactics and Donald Trump Jr. has said they have moved "to the book burning phase". The internet is awash these allegations of how antia are the real fascists as the Spectators Toby Young put it, or the "brown shirts" of the Democratic Party in radio host Michael Savage's words. After Charlottesville Trump called them the alt-left, a term that never stuck. These portraits' are often supported by their antifascists' disruption of the events of their far right opponents- a strategy famously deployed by fascists.
 
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Democrats have made noise about labeling speech against the liberal agenda as " racism/ hate-speech " and labeling those citizens as " prone to violence " then using that label to forcibly confiscate guns from citizens via. new legislation, this would be nothing short of state sponsored terrorism and oppression of free speech and would be met with organized resistance I have no doubt, ( lawsuits, protests, direct ).

I am not saying that we will ever see a full out revolution and we likely won't see a revolution as an immediate response to anything, certainly not to Trump failing to be reelected and I do not want to see a revolution, but democrats would create a situation in order to advance their agenda without any regard to the health and safety of the public and they will blame that situation on others.

At some point politicians will have to be held accountable for our protection because there seems to be no limit to what they will say or do.....will that be a revolution or just a re-calibration of authority ? What ever you call it a point in time may come when it's necessary to push back harder and harder until our rights are respected.......you seem to advocate civil disobedience against police so don't tell me what can and can't happen or what I think, I see what's going on and teachers wanting parents to sign an agreement that they won't observe the lessons being taught to their children is not a conspiracy theory, it's right there in your face proof of an agenda.

Your polls are shifting, democrat mail out ballots be damned Trump will likely be reelected because Biden can't even answer any questions on his own, I can't wait for the debates even though Biden will get softball pre-approved questions .......as Obama said : Never discount Joe Bidens ability to Fux things up.
 

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Who doesn't know Biden is a creep and loosing his mind, really, you want to say that isn't reality? What he did in Ukraine and what his family is getting from China, anyone who votes for that guy with this knowledge are fools, then they would deserve to get what they get, if he was elected, but I DON'T.
 

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People don't want Kamila Harris as our next President, not even the majority of democrats, Biden is not going to hold up and everyone can see that, Biden can't even answer questions without reading the answers feed to him on a tel-prompter.

The polls show Trump is catching up and even ahead in some areas, this is just the people who are willing to admit what they know, many more know and just aren't saying so yet, the tiny difference is easily lost in people who simply won't vote for Harris to be our President because it's Harris who would be looking down her nose and laughing at reporters asking why, why, why.

Democrats hope to cheat, that's their plan, they will be pulling ballots out of thin air to be counted a week later, but it's not going to work.
 

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As many people are being attacked by the rabbid left, I bet there are 20+ percent who won’t say they are voting for Trump.
 

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There's a new CBS/YouGov poll out today in Florida that has Biden 50% and trump 44%. That is +6% for Biden. Trump is behind in most battleground polls and can't seem to move the needle no matter what he says. Truth is voters everywhere are sick of Trump's mismanagement of the pandemic, economy and very much everything he touches. Last time a Republican won a presidential election without Florida was nearly 100 years ago when Calvin Coolidge won.

Trump has been floating a theory that Biden is taking drugs and should take a drug test prior to debates. "How else can Biden become better at communicating", Trump has said. I thought drugs were bad and had no benefits. Someone should tell Trump. :LOL:
 




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