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RedCowboy

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Just because Hillary is being sheltered by a complicit Justice Dept. and even executive privilege in no way means she's not guilty, she's simply above the law for the moment.


 
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I do not know, I'm not sure the two candidates, one a businessman, and one politician, one for wealth, and another one for power
 

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Just because Hillary is being sheltered by a complicit Justice Dept. and even executive privilege in no way means she's not guilty, she's simply above the law for the moment.


What I did was bring the facts of this case to light. You may not like them, but they are facts. What you bring are spurious accusations and innuendo. Facts vs Spin. Even if, like you have said before, that someone who she emailed to got hacked, it doesn't matter because she lacked the important malicious intent, so no case.
 

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Clinton has said that she would like to make available to the refuges more space, but that doesn't mean that the figures that she proposed will actually happen. Even so, the vetting process takes two years or longer and is the most thorough in the world.
 

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What I did was bring the facts of this case to light. You may not like them, but they are facts. What you bring are spurious accusations and innuendo. Facts vs Spin. Even if, like you have said before, that someone who she emailed to got hacked, it doesn't matter because she lacked the important malicious intent, so no case.

She was ordered to produce the emails to Congress and instead deleted and wiped the server of anything she deemed "personal" except those that slipped out and got suppressed by Presidential Executive Privilege.

It's a fix and most people can see it, ignorance of the law is no excuse, and it was her job to know, yet she claims ignorance as lack of malicious intent.

This is proof she couldn't do the job, how the hell can she run the country if she cant even protect classified info that it was HER DAM JOB to classify and protect?

People should be in the streets with pitchforks because this corrupt criminal is above the law and attempting to shred our Bill of Rights as President.

Of course she's not ignorant, she knew what she was doing and got caught, but with Loretta Lynch who's clandestine airplane meeting with Bill Clinton was also exposed being able to do the job of the Justice Department then why waste the charges, at best she would get a pardon, this way people see the lie she told and maybe she can be held accountable later.

The FBI did the best they could with their hands tied, and they can still make a case after Trump is elected and throws some treasonous conspirators out.

Syrian refugees will be vetted you say, overseen by this same criminal who cant protect classified information when it was her job to classify and protect the information, somehow I don't feel good about this, maybe I just don't trust a liar to protect my life when she can't protect documents.
 
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You keep saying the same things over ans over. But, the statute clearly states without malicious intent, NO CASE. I was for prosecuting Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush who were easily culpable for crimes committed in violation to the Geneva Convention as well as others. That didn't happen. I wanted Richard Nixon prosecuted for his culpability in the cover up of the Democratic Offices burglary, but he was pardoned by Ford. Even if, and that is a huge IF, Trump were elected, there was no criminal intent and the statute requires it.
 

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Reasonable expectation of knowledge to do her job would indicate intent in her actions, the shadow of doubt is about as bright as the surface of the sun.
 

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For Christ sake, it is malicious intent. That means she intended to leak classified material to a person or persons who were not holding a clearance to have the material. What you think her intentions may have been or what spurious allegations you come up with make no difference. It is her intent that is key to meeting the necessary level to prosecute. Can you understand that, or are you just going to continue to act as if you don't understand?
 

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So if I run someone down with my car while adjusting the radio and kill them, but I did not intend to kill them am I prosecuted....YES

This is an excuse to let her go, she is actually liable when she pressed send and moved documents to her private server, ignorance *Cough* of the law is no excuse nor is intent, she did something she signed an agreement not to do, she is getting special treatment.

At the least she should not be allowed to handle classified information ever again or hold public office as she violated the agreement she signed.

 
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Trump may not get the majority of the Black vote, but African Americans who work hard are talking about Trump and many African Americans don't like Hispanic Illegal Immigrants, plus Hillary is a nasty B and it shows so a lot of African American men will not vote for Hillary either, many simply may not vote at all!
 

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So if I run someone down with my car while adjusting the radio and kill them, but I did not intend to kill them am I prosecuted....YES

This is an excuse to let her go, she is actually liable when she pressed send and moved documents to her private server, ignorance *Cough* of the law is no excuse nor is intent, she did something she signed an agreement not to do, she is getting special treatment.

At the least she should not be allowed to handle classified information ever again or hold public office as she violated the agreement she signed.
Like I've said before you are mixing two different laws and are ignoring the actual statute since you disagree with it. The laws that determine culpability
for vehicular manslaughter are not the same as the laws that determine culpability in this case. The standard as it reads in the statute is the person must be proven to have had malicious intent to release classified information to person or persons not given a security clearance. This isn't even a close call. Like the director of the FBI said, no one would bring this case to court.


Concerning blacks and other minorities, it is pure fantasy to imagine Trump would get more than 1% of this vote. And being Trump, that will not change. A non-Republican couldn't wish for a better candidate to run against. Blacks will not stay home as they have been ardent supporters of Obama and he is coming out for Clinton.

BTW, what do you mean by hardworking blacks? Like there are the good blacks and the lazy blacks? That is why this election's results will come as a complete surprise to you. You don't even see some blacks as people.
 
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Like I've said before you are mixing two different laws and are ignoring the actual statute since you disagree with it. The laws that determine culpability
for vehicular manslaughter are not the same as the laws that determine culpability in this case. The standard as it reads in the statute is the person must be proven to have had malicious intent to release classified information to person or persons not given a security clearance. This isn't even a close call. Like the director of the FBI said, no one would bring this case to court.


Concerning blacks and other minorities, it is pure fantasy to imagine Trump would get more than 1% of this vote. And being Trump, that will not change. A non-Republican couldn't wish for a better candidate to run against. Blacks will not stay home as they have been ardent supporters of Obama and he is coming out for Clinton.

BTW, what do you mean by hardworking blacks? Like there are the good blacks and the lazy blacks? That is why this election's results will come as a complete surprise to you. You don't even see some blacks as people.
You are talking right straight out of your ass now, most of my neighbors are black folks, most my friends are black folks, I talk to people at my local Wal-Mart and they are 99% black folk out shopping and I hear what thy are saying to me and each other, more than a few do not like Hillary at all and many say they are not going to vote at all this time, you just assumed something about me and got it 180 out, I have know some dam fine people who happen to be black not that their color/race matters, but I have also known some foul trash that happened to be white, I judge everyone on an individual basis and those fat welfare trash Hillary supporters without a thought of their own I saw online yesterday happened to be white.

The thing I Have noticed is those people around me who are hard working and raising kids tend to support Trump or strongly dislike Hillary, while those who are home all day and getting their financial support from assistance are in almost all in favor of Hillary.

This is my personal observation where I live, I live in a predominantly African American populated area and most people I encounter daily are nice polite decent people.

However I do see a difference that appears to correspond to income and ambition.

BTW Trump is said to be at 11% amongst African American voters.

Oh and about the DNC....HAHAHAHAHA what a train wreck.
BTW, I would vote for Bernie Sanders dirty socks before that criminal Hillary.
 

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You were the one who made a distinction by saying "hard working blacks". That is what we call a Freudian slip. Like many people who are white and grew up in the south, you claim to have many friends who are black to deflect any accusations of racism. "Some of my best friends are black." I've heard it many times when in the south. I can believe that as many as 10% of some blacks may support Trump, but it is never going to be the 90% that will vote Democrat.

I am unhappy by the Wikileaks revelation of the emails from the DNC. It is not what I would consider good politics, but unlike you, I can talk about the shortcomings of the DNC, where you only defend everything trump has said or done. You forgot to mention that these leaks appear to have come from hacks by the Russian military, who for the first time have involved themselves in an American election. It is no secret that Putin would prefer Trump to Clinton as our president. You even posted videos showing Putin's preference to Trump. What the dictator doesn't understand is that this won't help in his cause to get Trump to the White House because these issues are only a passing deflection of the real issues. We'll see if the convention is the cluster f@ck that Trump's convention turned out to be. If it is, I will be the first to say so.
 

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No one is born knowing right and wrong, if a child is hungry they reach for food, that child has to be taught about possession and what stealing is, nature says eat when your hungry.

Most people who spend time with others of a different ethnicity will discover that racism is wrong, if you have any soul at all you will unlearn wrong peer teachings as you see real loving fellow humans and find common ground.

But people with a political agenda will still use racism even when they know it's wrong, and use the accusation of racism as leverage, it's a transparent tactic and one that I find disgusting, it's selfish and anti humanity.
Those people who Race Bate are less than human in my opinion, especially if they know better.

If not for the super delegates there is a good chance Bernie Sanders would have been our next President and that would be infinitely better than that Criminal Hillary, would I still have voted Trump, YES, but I would be a lot less disappointed if he didn't win.

So both Republicans and Democrats have been cheated, I would like to see a recount of actual votes between Hillary and Sanders, I may even march in protest if the opportunity presents itself, not because I want Sanders, but because I want ABC Anyone But Hillary.
 







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