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DJNY

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Wanna make clear, this has nothing to do with the LPF


I purchased a cam for EUR327.00 (~$430.00) from a guy in Germany offered here

At this forum, other people are unable to post in the threadstarter´s FS threads (sellers are able to bump there threads after 1 week).

So I PM´d the guy and after some back-and-forth I agreed to purchase the kit from him, sending the cash via wire transfer. He got me a (faked) tracking number and everything seemed fine. After one week the "package" hasn´t moved, so I tried to contact the guy again. But he removed his account.

Then I searched around and found this thread (written in German).
He listed four items and for each items he got quite a lot PMs. The set I purchased was sold to 12 people (maybe more).


Around the time he was selling his stuff, he listed very expensive equipment in his signature so that people get the feeling "The guy has so much other stuff, that´s why he don´t care that he can get a bit more for his sales"


That are the facts I have from him (maybe his account is already closed though):
- Bank Account Number
- Bank Code
- International Bank Account Number (IBAN)
- SWIFT-BIC
- (maybe) faked name
- faked ID card


What to do next? The legal position is for sure different in America, but I need impulses.

What I´ve already done was trying to do a negative booking operation with my bank
What I´m going to do is to press charge in respect of fraud
 
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Zeebit

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Sorry I couldn't help but why did you transfer via wire?
 

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Well in america scamming like that is illegal and is punishable by law from what i know about law witch is not very much but i would say even in germany scamming is still a crime i think you might be able to report it the the FBI but i only looked at a website telling me what i could do if i got scammed so i dont think i can help you too much but im sorry that bastard did that to you. :(
 

DJNY

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LPF or the on you got scammed on? Either way, I always pay via Ppal.

No, not on LPF. AFAIK 99.9 % of the transactions here are payed via PP.

Me also. But many people in Austria / Germay don´t have a PayPal account.
 
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ped

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That sucks ball's DJNY.

Easy to say use PP with hindsight.
If you cant't do a chargeback, it looks like a trip to the police station for you, see if they can help.
 

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Feel for you:( Sorry I can't offer more than that.
 

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I feel your pain, I myself have been scammed before online. :( Sorry to hear that this has happened DJNY. :( Since it was with wire transfer I think reporting it to the police is about all you can do.


Unfortunately I don't speak German so I can't be of more help.
 
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You should be able to do a chargeback. Contact your bank and ask for the forms.
 

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Obviously the seller is a criminal. Police and lawyer might be only options.

Go to Bank immediately ans see if the wired transfer can be reversed because of the fraud.

Perhaps, go to Germany and locate the guy and have a little talk with Police in the town and go visit him.
 
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DJNY

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You should be able to do a chargeback. Contact your bank and ask for the forms.

I did try (paid $45 fees for that), but no luck.
It would be only possible if the owner of the bank account agreed.

We don´t have his address as well..
 
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I did try (paid $45 fees for that), but no luck.
It would be only possible if the owner of the bank account agreed.

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Doesn't that defeat the object of a chargeback? of course he isn't going to agree, the CC company should know that...damn..
 

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I did try (paid $45 fees for that), but no luck.
It would be only possible if the owner of the bank account agreed.

We don´t have his address as well..

The Bank has his address and will provide it to authorities.

Go to local Police and see if they can help out---is worth a try.
 

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I think you can only apply a chargeback if you paid via a credit authority like a Credit Card company -- the protection of which is consequently a reason they should be used.

If you wired cash, you're SOL. There are no chargebacks for wired cash just as you don't get chargebacks for giving people suitcases full of money.

All you can do now is bring up the issue with people on the board and maybe protect some future buyer from bad transactions, or possibly the person will resolve this issue to preserve his/her reputation. Not much else you can do.
 




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