Trying to judge the interest level of you all....you have seen the bad press I gave to Glowtorch, because of his SUPER slow shipping, and delivering empty packages (might have been the post office, who knows ?) But I FINALLY got a hold of him, and he tossed an interesting idea to me...He said I can deal direct with the manufacturer, and he will pay for my replacement if I can find 9 more "orders" at $145.00 each. Now - I was batting 500 with mine.....one I received was fantastic ! The other was not so good - and was DOA. So...this would be a LITTLE BIT on the risky side... I will buy another at the $145.00 price, but that leaves me with needing 9 more customers who want to gamble with me. I really am not sure anymore - I just want the damned laser ! I told him I would think about it, and I would pay via pay-pal, so that way I am protected. So - if anyone wants to try this out - let me know. I figure his "offer" is good for a little while, but reply as soon as possible. What would happen is this : I would pay him, the lasers come directly to me, and then I ship to you (after testing). I don't know if this sounds good to any of you or not - but see my review on the glowtorch....I really liked the laser. I figure, the worst that could happen is, paypal refunds all the money owed, and I (we) would break even - minus of course, the one laser he STILL owes me.