help; need alternative for lm317/amc7135 based drivers

Emerekt the JankLord · Nov 28, 2020

hey there! i was planning to finally make drivers for a couple laser diodes i've collected over the years (at least for the ones i didn't break trying to hook them up to 19v 2a supply or batteries directly when i was 12 ) but i don't have any LM317 or AMC7135.
and i don't have a quick way to just order these online. but i got a lot of electronics that i hoarded over the years

so i was wondered if there were alternatives for these or just other drivers that i didn't see when looking online for ways to make laser drivers. all the ones i see are using LM317.

i don't mind if they are less efficient or a little bit less safe for the diode .

preferably ones that can handle 18650 2.5ah 3.7v batts.

btw most of the diodes are red or IR and came from DVD-CD RW drives, so im guessing most of them are 200mw (some came from drives from 2005 idk if they are less strong)

thanks for the help in advance!

gazer101 · Nov 28, 2020

LM317 is tried and true, but if you have time to experiment see what the efficiency of the AMC circuit is

Emerekt the JankLord · Nov 28, 2020

gazer101 said:
LM317 is tried and true, but if you have time to experiment see what the efficiency of the AMC circuit is

i know that the better way to do it is with lm317, the problem is i dont have any and no easy way to order them online, thats why im looking for an alternative even though it will probably not be as efficient. i thought about using an APL 5508 but the current output is 500mA and i dont know if a current limiting resistor will be ok to use to drop the current. i attached the datasheet of the APL5508. will it work or will it fry the diode?

gazer101 · Nov 28, 2020

LM317's are very popular, could you not wait a week or 2 for a package to arrive?

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Otherwise what you're suggesting could work, but from my limited experience I've seen that theoretically works =/=> actually works
Test it out on a dummy load and then on an actual diode, be scientific about it

Encap · Nov 28, 2020

Emerekt the JankLord said:
i know that the better way to do it is with lm317, the problem is i dont have any and no easy way to order them online, thats why im looking for an alternative even though it will probably not be as efficient. i thought about using an APL 5508 but the current output is 500mA and i dont know if a current limiting resistor will be ok to use to drop the current. i attached the datasheet of the APL5508. will it work or will it fry the diode?

The device you mention/attached is a constant voltage regulator --laser diodes need constant current drivers not constant voltage.

" i dont have any and no easy way to order them online,"??
There is no easier way than 10 pcs for less than $1 including shipping on ebay

hakzaw1 · Nov 29, 2020

Encap
just tried to PM you but I am blocked??
a minute ago the Sarah thread has been closed down??
I am glad.
It was getting creepy.
MYB an IP search showed the sender was not in London !?
hope all is good with you.
hak

Unown (WILD) · Nov 29, 2020

hakzaw1 said:
Encap
just tried to PM you but I am blocked??
a minute ago the Sarah thread has been closed down??
I am glad.
It was getting creepy.
MYB an IP search showed the sender was not in London !?
hope all is good with you.
hak

Yeah I didn't get to see the rest of the thread before it got deleted. It had to be fake ... right?? I mean able to send audio directly into her ear everywhere even inside a hospital... there's no way

Edit: Oops sorry didn't mean to derail

Encap · Nov 29, 2020

hakzaw1 said:
Encap
just tried to PM you but I am blocked??
a minute ago the Sarah thread has been closed down??
I am glad.
It was getting creepy.
MYB an IP search showed the sender was not in London !?
hope all is good with you.
hak

You are not blocked in my settings--don't know why a PM did not go through.
LOL Yes that Sarah thread was clever/creepy Trolling of LPF and/or real mental problems level nonsense.
I reported it--glad to see it gone as well --is not what LPF is about or meant for.

hakzaw1 · Nov 29, 2020

yep-- I regret getting fooled.. I wonder if 'she' is a banned member.
A new one (gave no location) joined right after the deal with the two sellers with almost the same name and both in Viet Nam.. the username gave me a feeling-- seems like admin could 'vet' new members somehow.. There are other forums who do better-
My last PM to Sarah was asking for 'her' to gmail me-- hopes of seeing an IP addy that was NOT in London.

gazer101 · Nov 29, 2020

FYI it is possible to direct sound to a person using high-amplitude (super loud) ultrasound (which then emits human-hearable sound at the point of impact at the target) but that would require LOS and a really powerful speaker (which most trolls wouldn't be able to afford):

Sound from ultrasound - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Emerekt the JankLord · Nov 30, 2020

Encap said:
The device you mention/attached is a constant voltage regulator --laser diodes need constant current drivers not constant voltage.

" i dont have any and no easy way to order them online,"??
There is no easier way than 10 pcs for less than $1 including shipping on ebay

oh, i thought the APL5508 could have worked cuz it was on the board of one of the dvd board with a resistor. too bad. (also i thought lm317 was also a voltage regulator. i guess it does more)

also the reason why i "dont have an easy way to order it online" is cuz my bank is annoying and doesnt seem to like to let their customers use their card. i get it unblocked, next day its blocked again even though i didnt use it, so its kinda hard to order online without having a way to pay online.

and i thought it would be nice to see more drivers circuits than with the LM317 (even though its better)

gazer101 · Dec 1, 2020

Emerekt the JankLord said:
oh, i thought the APL5508 could have worked cuz it was on the board of one of the dvd board with a resistor. too bad. (also i thought lm317 was also a voltage regulator. i guess it does more)

also the reason why i "dont have an easy way to order it online" is cuz my bank is annoying and doesnt seem to like to let their customers use their card. i get it unblocked, next day its blocked again even though i didnt use it, so its kinda hard to order online without having a way to pay online.

and i thought it would be nice to see more drivers circuits than with the LM317 (even though its better)

OneVanilla

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Emerekt the JankLord · Dec 3, 2020

i found an LM317 while digging trough my old stuff, so i don't NEED an alternative anymore.
But im still interested in seeing more drivers designs if anybody feel like sharing ideas for alternative drivers.
(if i would like to see other drivers idea here, do i need to change the name of this post or need to make a different post since the "help" part is solved? or do i just leave this post like it is now? sorry i never been on forums so idk if thats how it works)
thanks for the help

Cyparagon · Dec 7, 2020

Emerekt the JankLord said:
i got a lot of electronics that i hoarded over the years

You need to be more specific.

"I have a lot of car parts. Can I build a car?" Is not a question that can be answered.

icecruncher · Dec 9, 2020

Cyparagon said:
You need to be more specific.

"I have a lot of car parts. Can I build a car?" Is not a question that can be answered.

(I liked it). Yes you can, with one wheel and a exhaust pipe

- will it run, probably not

BeamDump · Dec 11, 2020

You can use LM324 and UC3846 - great constant current driver combination

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