Looking for new GPU :(

Hey guys.

Yesterday was a day so shitty, I cannot believe I didn't get hit by a truck. Or a Boeing 747. You know one of those days when absolutely everything that can go bad, goes even more bad? You just can't focus on the world around you, everything you do turns out like a bad decision, and when you sit down at your computer late evening to finally catch some rest and maybe some pixel shaded graphics, your GTX260+ Core 216 dies just because?

So if anybody somewhere is looking to get rid of a GPU of equal or higher performance, I'd like to take it off your hands.

I will not be willing to downgrade so if it's GTX260, at least it should be Core 216 version. Not sure about a direct equivalent of Radeon, apparently it's supposed to be the HD4870, though I'd like to step up to HD5xxx series if possible. What's the price range of HD5850? I can't even access eBay on this shitty net.

Also, due to both monetary and system restrictions, (namely, dual Kuma Core Athlon 64 7750+ black edition and not-gold-plated motherboard), I won't be hunting any higher than maybe Radeon 5850 or GTX460 (IIRC they are somewhere around there), so yeah, I'm hunting for a bit more older stuff but I'm hoping somebody here has something like that to get rid off.

If you do, just shoot me a PM, we'll talk business from there.

Also, for the love of God, please spare me the "OMG Your comp so old buy new expensive one hurr durr" crap.

Sorry to hear your loss!

I see you have EVGA Precision.... have you been pushing your GPU too hard?

Cheers! :beer:

Sorry to hear all your troubles. The GTX460 isn't an old card. I have this card in my computer now. It is a good upgrade from my previous GTX260 videocard.
Good luck with your search.

ryansoh3 said:

Sorry to hear your loss!

I see you have EVGA Precision.... have you been pushing your GPU too hard?

Cheers!

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Nope, I only used it to check my stats after I thoroughly cleaned the GPU inside-out 3 months back. It was 3 years old when I got it from a friend.

I only ever underclocked it to reduce noise levels at night.

Blord said:

Sorry to hear all your troubles. The GTX460 isn't an old card. I have this card in my computer now. It is a good upgrade from my previous GTX260 videocard.
Good luck with your search.

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Yeah but you know how some people go. "What, it ain't GTX690 ?! LAME!"

Thanks guys.

If you happen to fly by any deals you'd consider "good" if you were me, please feel free to pass them along.


EDIT.

OK I think I managed to figure out which GPU would best fit my rig.
If I cannot get another GTX260, I'd go for GTX560.
http://www.hwcompare.com/11038/geforce-gtx-260-core-216-vs-geforce-gtx-560/

In practise, it's about 20% faster, and consumes less power.

So yeah, it'd be great if somebody had one GTX560 to sell.

EDIT 2 - Well according to various forums, GTX560 will be at least twice faster... well maybe less in my case since CPU becomes more and more of a bottleneck, but at least when I'll be upgrading my rig few years from now I won't have to pick up the GPU.

Well,


this appears to be the single best deal on the entire internet:
Newegg.com - Galaxy 56NPH6HS4IXX GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) GC 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Thoughts?

Sorry for double post but it's kinda important. And... urgent.

Eud... if I were you, I would seriously consider getting the GTX 480 instead.

A whole lot more performance, for not that much more than what you're looking to spend right now:

Amazon.com: EVGA GeForce GTX480 1536MB GDDR5 Dual DVI, HDMI, SLI Graphics Cards 015-P3-1480-KR: Computers & Accessories

I currently have the gtx460 in my build (Link, was $180 when I bought it), and it's enough to play games, etc,.

That price you found, is also not that great imo, I've seen them for less, lowest was $100, for the gtx460. I'll look for 560.

Edit: Anandtech tests.

InfinitusEquitas said:

Eud... if I were you, I would seriously consider getting the GTX 480 instead.

A whole lot more performance, for not that much more than what you're looking to spend right now:

Amazon.com: EVGA GeForce GTX480 1536MB GDDR5 Dual DVI, HDMI, SLI Graphics Cards 015-P3-1480-KR: Computers & Accessories

I currently have the gtx460 in my build (Link, was $180 when I bought it), and it's enough to play games, etc,.

That price you found, is also not that great imo, I've seen them for less, lowest was $100, for the gtx460. I'll look for 560.

Edit: Anandtech tests.

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Hey IE,

Might wanna take a look at my link again, it's not 460, it's 560, and a Galaxy model with 2 GB of memory, at that.

I looked up 480, it's faster, but power requirements and price is out of my range, most unfortunately

560 is already out of my price range, actually. I'm really pushing it, and I'll need to machine a LOT of heatsinks to cover that, plus all other troubles in life that happened along side of dead GPU.

Thanks for your input, though! Much appreciated!

Yup, I only realized after that you decided on the 560 instead. It's a good card.

I was thinking of upgrading to the 480 myself, but need to check if my PSU can handle it. The good news is, with the 560 you will be able to run just about anything on high settings... even with the 460 I'm able to do that right now.

InfinitusEquitas said:

Yup, I only realized after that you decided on the 560 instead. It's a good card.

I was thinking of upgrading to the 480 myself, but need to check if my PSU can handle it. The good news is, with the 560 you will be able to run just about anything on high settings... even with the 460 I'm able to do that right now.

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Well, I was able to with my 260 too, one good thing is that my monitor is 1680x1050 resolution, and not full HD 1080, and it's still 22" diagonal with decent pixel density.

With my 260, I was playing BF3 on maxed out resolution, and pretty much everything maxed out except Textures (high), AA Differed (in favor of FXaa), and Mesh quality.

Also, I'm trying to think ahead as much as possible with this - GTX560 is indeed a powerful card, like you say... maybe even too powerful for my Athlon 7750 processor, but that means that in 2-3 years, when I'm upgrading my rig alltogether, I can keep this 560 as I assume it'll still hold it's own then.

Two years probably, three years is most likely a stretch.

Right now there is a bottle neck, in that very few games actually utilize the capabilities of the high end cards. The resolution in most cases is also fixed to 1080. Within 3 years I suspect we might see a jump to higher resolution monitors, and games with that.

I suspect my gtx460 has another year or so of useful lifetime on it.

Even more if you're willing to lean back on the game's settings a bit.

I was planning to hold out those three years with 260.

I have no problems reducing resolution and in game settings to keep playable performance, as long as the game looks even half decent.

I'm no stranger to sacrifising details for performance. 3 years back, when I bought this machine, it replaced an 8 year old falling-to-pieces bucket with nVidia FX5200.

That thing had less processing power than a typewriter.

Oh, I cut back on performance for many, many years. Prior to the gtx460, my card was a 9500GT. I was actually able to play SCII on it though.

I'm ok with cutting performance, but in some games... I want the spectacular scenery and awesome effects Oblivion was barely playable on the 9500GT with any decent settings. Any games after that time though, forget it, the card couldn't handle them.

What's funny is I'm still using the 9500gt at work... for work purposes, drives two 1080 monitors with no problems whatsoever. I posted a thread, I have a spare one of those cards, with a fan that rattles a little, offered to sell it for the price of shipping... no one took it.

If you are ever thinking of trying Linux STAY AWAY FROM ATI. Their drivers are horrible and support is nonexistent, and they love to drop support for older cards even on Windows platform. Just my 0.02 cents.

P.S. I used to have a custom built desktop but gave it away. Moved towards laptops now own G54SX-A1 running Debian wheezy.

As long as what's on those two monitors isn't pixel/vertex shaded, ofcourse any card will run it.

I have no problems playing full 1080p quality movies on HD television set at friend's place through my laptop's 9300 GS.

My PC though, the one I'm getting this GPU for, different story

Regarding SCII, it's not terribly hardware demanding, fully maxed out it very rarely dipped below 30 FPS on my 260, only times it did was with Mothership unit drawing special cloaking FX on all nearby units. But hey it was nice

I find Supreme Commander Forged Alliance incredibly much more demanding, both for GPU and CPU. In extreme battles, it dipped down to 15 FPS, luckily in strategy games you don't really need extreme performance as HUD is drawn seperately.

Whole 2 FPS on my laptop's 9300

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If you are ever thinking of trying Linux STAY AWAY FROM ATI. Their drivers are horrible and support is nonexistent, and they love to drop support for older cards even on Windows platform. Just my 0.02 cents.

P.S. I used to have a custom built desktop but gave it away. Moved towards laptops now own G54SX-A1 running Debian wheezy.

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Nope, not even one stray through of Linux on my machine anywhere in forseeable future. Unless Mass Effect 4 comes Linux exclusive, I'm pretty sure my Windows 7 will happily compute everything I'll ever need from my machine.

Thanks for the advice, though!

Eudaimonium said:

I find Supreme Commander Forged Alliance incredibly much more demanding, both for GPU and CPU. In extreme battles, it dipped down to 15 FPS, luckily in strategy games you don't really need extreme performance as HUD is drawn seperately.

Whole 2 FPS on my laptop's 9300

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Nope, not even one stray through of Linux on my machine anywhere in forseeable future. Unless Mass Effect 4 comes Linux exclusive, I'm pretty sure my Windows 7 will happily compute everything I'll ever need from my machine.

Thanks for the advice, though!

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SUPCOM 1/FA !!!!! I bet you also supported Planetary Annihilation kickstarter campaign ?



I switched to Linux almost entirely because I got tired of having the system bog down on me over the period of several months, dealing with all the extra crap you need to avoid malware/viruses, and reinstalling OS and configuring everything (drivers/setting) takes 4X as much time as ANY linux distro I have tried so far. I have W7 as a dualboot option on my laptop, and haven't logged in in it for 4 months.

Linux (on laptops especially) does of-course have its own set of issues, but they have been minor for me so far.

Sorry about the offtopic above. I find that any performance and cost that you will gain/save by going with ATI will be quickly negated by the problems with their drivers/support and general hardware quality on ANY platform.

Be aware that your CPU may limit what a GTX560 can manage.

6 months ago I upgraded from a GTX285 to a GTX670, but found that my overclocked q6600 couldn't keep the GPU supplied at higher settings. Trying to use higher video quality on BF3 just resulted in my CPU usage going from 85% to 100% nonstop during matches.


Now with the same GPU and a i7-3820 I gained 30+fps and cpu usage is at 50% or less.