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ArcticMyst Security by Avery

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Well, at a certain point, what is the incentive for upgrade to an average gamer?

Desktop sales are very heavily on the decline, and that decline will continue...

Meanwhile my now 2.5 year old card can still handle the most modern game out there at reasonable, high, or ultimate setting. Having thought about it, only way I will upgrade by card, is if I have to, and that will happen only IF (big IF) I save up enough for a 27" or 30" IPS monitor, and need to do a tri monitor setup.
 





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Game industry will always drive hardware industry forward.

How can we possibly be from some Sci-fi mumbo jumbo gaming? Like, actual 3D display, full senses immersion, etc etc.

Stuff like that needs unbelivable amounts of processing power.
 
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Yup, I believe that processor performance really plateaued around when the Core 2 came out. After that point there were always spare cores, good speed for most things, and a good price for those processors. For GPUs, for me it was with the nVidia G92-based GPUs. Sure, there are much better ones now, but that was the first where it just seemed to run everything really nicely (such as Oblivion) and the upgrade cycle stretched out much further.

It used to be that a year or two later I'd be feeling the strain even from Flash animations on websites. Not anymore. Now, the only stuff I think I might want are more SSDs and possibly more RAM--but only when I'm running some VMs or something huge.
 
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That's just it though... IMO there is less demand for Uber gaming rigs.

3D so far has been a complete flop, and rightfully so, (again IMO).

Consoles are WAY behind in term of tech specs, and yet satisfy most people.

At the same time the game industry, for the most part, actually hates PC gamers with a passion. (We pirate too much:p).
 
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Because they give us a reason to.

As long as I'm required to register in 50 different websites, download 17 different game clients like Steam, Origin, Rockstar Socially Retarded Club, download 35 GB games over shitty internet connection, maintain said shitty connection to play a singleplayer game,

Then no thank you.

I'll go over to my friend's place, download a torrent overnight, come pick it up tomorrow, and play whenever I damn want.

Different stuff back a few years when you bought a disc and got just that. You downloaded a new patch when you wanted to, nobody said "No, you cannot play the game unless you download a new 1.7 GB patch which does exactly jack sh*t".

Or, like Diablo's example way back, "You cannot play (y)our Diablo singleplayer game if your internet connection is down, if our servers our down, if WoW servers are down, or wind blows in unexpected direction today. If everything of that is alright, let's first start the launcher which will download today's regular updates".

You spend two hours setting up a game you'll play for one hour.

I'm walking in with money in hand ready to buy and play your game, developer. And if you're putting up 9001 barriers to stop me from playing the damned game, f**k you. I'd rather donate those $50 dollars to the group who dedicates a week of hard coding work to remove those barriers for everybody, and for free.
 
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You won't get any argument from me. Ubisoft finally saw the light it seems. Others need to follow ASAP... specifically blizzard.

GTA was a freaking freakfucktardation of a screw up as far as DRM is concerned IMO, and super buggy.

The always on requirement for single player really ticks me off... should be illegal.
 
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Here is a humorous tutorial on solder reflow for GPU's.

How about a Orange Dry with a brown center :) Tutorial as well!!! | BudgetLightForum.com

Might want to try it out after you get your new one! :beer:

Serve with a good benckmark like Furmark for example to appreciate the reciepe.
Goes well with some red wine like Zinfandel after the benchmarks are successfull.
Voila.
:crackup:


Yep that was exactly my plan - if I even get it working again, it'll be great for a backup PC.
 

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About reflowing the gpu - you don't have to do it in an oven and remove all the caps. I reflowed my laptop GPU with a butane pen torch. Just take some thick aluminum foil (like from a disposable pie pan) a cut a hole the size of the gpu so everything else is shielded from the heat. Best to squirt some flux around the edges of the gpu too.

Infinitus, if you still want to sell that card for the price of shipping I'll take it. I have a pc sitting around with only the crap onboard gpu.
 
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stick the gpu in your rig, without its heatsink, turn rig upside down, turn it on, instant reflow. :p
 
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stick the gpu in your rig, without its heatsink, turn rig upside down, turn it on, instant reflow. :p

Appreciate the joke but it's without a fundation.

There is no load to put in the GPU as it refuses to do any real work. Hence it will not heat up.

Unless you're suggesting that nVidia's idle temps are too high :p
 
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I dunno, I find Steam works pretty well for me. However, the moment it interferes with my gaming is the moment I wander over to Game Copy World to find a NoCD patch. I won't tolerate having a CD or DVD in my drive. It's bad enough I keep those drives for anything besides extracting lasers from. I hate optical media.

Also unless game companies are paying me to be a beta tester, I don't buy beta/alpha games--i.e. games that just came out. I buy the games after they're "gold"--they're tested and patched. So PC game makers lose out on high-end profit because of their inverse price to quality ratio. It seems that only when the game is $15 on Steam is the game patched to the point that it is playable.

The only exception to this would be games like Left 4 Dead (2) which I got immediately, but only because I would play them a lot with friends and Valve does an okay job (not great) of testing them before release and they release patches in a pretty timely manner. A company like THQ/Relic I will never buy any of their games (new). They are the WORST company as far as making non-broken games, and releasing timely patches. I remember with Company of Heroes, they promised a patch for their broken-ass game within half a year, and didn't deliver for over 1.5 years, at which time the patch they released had extremely obvious, glaring bugs. That company was so bad at making games that their SERVERS had to be periodically restarted because of memory leaks. No, I don't pay for games like that. Sometimes they're aren't even worth the bandwidth (like that latest Command and Conquer games).

As for consoles, I don't like modern consoles because of their effects on PC gaming. They've degraded computer gaming with their low standards (like people oozing over something like Halo), terrible controls (FPSes with controllers is heresy), and diluting interest in PC games.

It has just become so degraded. I just laugh seeing the previews for those console games on TV, where the frame rates are extremely choppy. Is that what people like playing?

It's also annoying how games like Fallout 3 or New Vegas are stuck with these cross-platform engines that are extremely buggy because they have to work on shitty consoles (in addition to just being plain buggy). Other games like Left 4 Dead 2 and Team Fortress 2 are limited in what they can show because of the limitations of the console. In the case of TF2 they had to just abandon updating things for the XBox 360 because it was simply too inferior for what was needed.
 
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Yeah well, I have to agree with every point there. Well summed up!

Also, while there are very glaring "attempts" at cross-platform gaming, you have to admit, sometimes there are incredibly good hits too!

For example Mass Effect 3 - due to being cross-platform, developers knew they had to deliver good graphics, but epically optimized so it runs on everything, and tell you what - they surely did. They optimized the SH*T out of that game, at no expense of visuals.

It's less hardware demanding than it's predeccessor, ME2, and looks several times better. Also, 2 second loading times are something I don't think I'll ever understand how it's done.

So while cross-platform gaming has some disadvantages, at least it's driving on the optimizations and playability for folks who do not have uber-1337 machines to game on.

That, paralleled with tech-demo games like Battlefield 3, Crysis, and whatever today is coming out that's demanding brutal beefy computer delivering a lot of horsepower, is pretty much what drives the computing technology forward.

However, what you do with this technology is another point. I didn't play Fallout 3 simply because of one particular insult to every single gamer on this green Earth.
"You probably suck too bad to aim good enough to play our epic game, so let us do it for you", a.k.a. VATS system.

Well, either that, or it may be translated as "We suck at optimizing the gameplay combat experience so let us put it on rails for you". Either way, it sucks.

If at least some degree of reflexes, precision, eye-to-hand coordination and speed isn't demanded from a player in a first person shooting game, how the hell is this a "shooting" game? Do those people even know how a gun works? Do they consider reflexes and other thing unimportant to learn?

Or like the writers at cracked said,
[screenshot of Fallout 3 VATS system]
-Caption "Ahh, combat. Good time to go and take a crap."

Other related "reference" materials:
The 5 Most Absurdly Expensive Items in Online Gaming | Cracked.com

5 Things The Gaming Industry Will Never Fix (And Why) | Cracked.com

5 Reasons 'Diablo III' Represents Gaming's Annoying Future | Cracked.com

The 7 Commandments All Video Games Should Obey | Cracked.com
 

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Will I be able to run Crysis in whatever resolution and quality if I got a Radeon x1950 pro?Or a 8800gts 320mb?
Or Oblivion at reasonable quality?
Currently I have a very weak CPU,Sempron LE-1200 (single core 2.1GHz OC'ed to 2.8GHz)
,3gb DDR2 ram 800Mhz and an integrated Nvidia.
 
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Hmm, teško :D

Radeon x1950 was a high end when it was out, but I dunno how well it fares compared to today.

8800GT and GTS cards are still reasonably good at DX9 games (Oblivion will run nicely on 8800 series),

But your processor is giving you a bottleneck. You must upgrade that, otherwise the potential of 8800GT card will be unused since processor cannot feed it the amount of data which it would otherwise be able to process.

But my honest reccomendation, is same up a little bit more, you can get a very decent gaming grade computer for 3000 HRK no problems.
 

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I think I have a few spare 560tis lying around. hit me up in chat.
 




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