New users require manual activation

vBulletin has a nifty little feature that requires all new members signing up for the forums be manually activated by the administrator (Avery). I think using this feature would be beneficial to the forums, especially when we ban someone and they're intent on coming back and spamming, such as mrgoogfan/viper & arenared/slipstream. Many times when people are mad, they do dumb things. Once they cool down, they tend to not do those dumb things any more. If someone is banned and they re-register, they'll have to wait until the administrator (Maybe mods can activate also, not sure) activates the account, giving them time to cool down and get over it. Also, the administrator will also view the IP addresses of the new members, determine whether or not they are using a proxy server, thus getting an idea on who to keep an eye on. What's your feedback on this?

Sounds like we're volunteering c0ld for more work.

Peace,
dave

True. I wish I could lend a hand somehow.

While it is a good idea to try to prevent banned members, spammers, trolls and flamers from setting up alt. accounts, I (personally) wouldn't have wanted to wait (hours maybe?) after registration to submit my first post. :tired:

Sounds like a great idea. A plus to implementing this procedure, would give newcomers more time to read the forums a little. Mayby find answers to some of their questions, while their wating for approval, before posting. It might help reduce some of the questions like ''Does O-Like.com ship to the U.S.?''

It also would help newcomers maybe take the forums more seriously. If they know they have to wait for approval.

great idea but who's gonna be doing all that work?

I voted "yes" but honestly don't see this happening... and then again if somebody got banned, they can just change their IP and not even need a proxy server to come back nice and peachy.

excuse the pessimism, and I really do believe it's a great idea despite the minor faults :gj:

peace & thanks
-cmak

No, there's no need when we got the troll police on the case.

Thanks for all your hard work fellas, that last one was a epic take down.

Cheers:beer:

I use this feature on my forum and it works.

Mods can activate new accounts also, And it can be set up so that the first post is "parked" awaiting approval, that way when someone posts a long ass list of hacked cell phones, it never makes it to the boards.

A sincere new member who really wants to participate on the forum can understand if it takes a few hours for mod approval, and the spammers, freaks, and recently banned will get the idea quick that they are wasting time trying.

good idea.

Lest we forget --

Both Arenared and DarkArmyofOne not only already had multiple accounts BEFORE the problems started, but had been interacting with their own alter-egos to lend them an appearance of validity.

I'm sure that some of you have a second (or more account) just in case something happens to your primary.

Do we really think that this setting will stop an Arenared or a DarkArmyofOne? This setting may protect us from some SPAMMERS and the odd angry child (who hasn't learned to "plan ahead" yet), but at what cost of labor for the admin?

Peace,
dave

No way. How can you ask Avery to manually accept every single new user? That's mad! Some people don't even have time to loose, they just need help and they need it then!

Hallucynogenyc said:

No way. How can you ask Avery to manually accept every single new user? That's mad! Some people don't even have time to loose, they just need help and they need it then!

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We are rapidly approaching 10K members. We have over 2K "visitors" every 12 hours.

I don't have a problem with us not helping NooBs in an "emergency" situation. I cannot imagine a situation with a NooB that actually would be an emergency.

However, I don't like giving the admin more to do AND I don't think this setting will help with the really problematic members anyway.

Peace,
dave

I see both sides have valid points here. I don't know what to do then. I'm not trying to shout order here, but perhaps Ave can bring another mod on board then to help with the validation process? Idk.

mfo said:

I see both sides have valid points here. I don't know what to do then. I'm not trying to shout order here, but perhaps Ave can bring another mod on board then to help with the validation process? Idk.

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When c0ld brought back mods, there were two. One didn't work out. I don't know if he is still thinking about having a second one.

Peace,
dave

I think this is like using a bazooka to kill a fly.

Hallucynogenyc said:

I think this is like using a bazooka to kill a fly.

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I like that saying.

I use "double opt" AND original moderated posts in my mail lists, but:

1) It is MY idea. No one voted for me to do it
2) None of them are over 400 members
3) There are specific times (the beginning of the semester and just after a Peg Camp) that "memberships" are available
4) I get paid to sit at my desk for a few hours a week

Peace,
dave

Just my half cent opinion ..... doing this, we can have an advantage only if the forum was small (thing that perhaps it's not ) ..... with a big forum like this one, can instead be just a huge add-on for c0ld and 2007, at the moment ..... (can be different with 10 or 15 mods that cover all the 24 hours, from different timezones, but is not our case)

That what i mean is, doing this, are them that have to scan all the "waiting" posts, and approve or reject them, without have any help from us ..... with the actual system, instead, is true that any spammer can post here, but when any of us see them and report them to the admins, they are "pointed" directly on the wrong posts and users, without have to scan all the new ones ..... assuming that the most part of us don't usually report "good" posts and users (this can happens for error, but usually is very rare), their work is relieved from a good part of posts readings (the ones that none report cause all judge them good), and have to scan only the ones that someone report, for decide if left or delete .....

After all, isn't this, the purpose of having a "quasi-self-moderated" forum ?

Also, reporting a bad post is matter of few seconds, so imho isn't a big work, for us, to do this, right ?

And, anyway, if anyone of them want to read all the new posts and delete something that we judged "good", or find that someone that we judged "good" instead is trying to "cheat" and want to use the banhammer, they can still do that, without problems ..... our support is just a trial to "keep the place a bit ordered", without that they have to do all the work alone ..... at least, this is how i see the things, but as i've said, it's a personal opinion, and can also be wrong, so take it for that what it can worth