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So you're saying you approve of or condone the kinds of behaviors that Dark has exhibited here? If that's not what you're saying, then perhaps you could enlighten us with a different way of handling this problem? Because by voting no you have (wittingly or unwittingly) endorsed Darks behavior.

Rather than take a stand based on the evidence you have been presented, you would instead prefer to accuse the people who are fighting for good here of being hate-motivated?

Apparently you voted without viewing the evidence at hand.

You claim this is unneccesary? How do you figure? Dealing with the FACT that we have a thief in our midst is unneccesary? I can think of little that is MORE necessary.
Actually, I think I was pretty clear with what I ment in the first post. My vote is not dependent on the things you bring up but more on the way this is handled.

Also I did not accuse anyone of anything other than using the wrong methods in resolving this. The vote itself wasnt anything I questioned at all.

If you actually read those things into my post you should reread it again.
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So what you're saying is as long as the crook don't rob you, you have no beef with him. Gotcha, chief.
You should really reread my post as its posts like this that caused me to vote the way I did. You dont need to attack people who post just because they dont share your views. You just appear rude by antagonising people who dont agree with you and there is no need to fight just because I dont agree with you, is there?
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How its Handled!?? Its being handled the way it should be! Who are these people!
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Actually, I think I was pretty clear with what I ment in the first post. My vote is not dependent on the things you bring up but more on the way this is handled.
Also I did not accuse anyone of anything other than using the wrong methods in resolving this. The vote itself wasnt anything I questioned at all.
If you actually read those things into my post you should reread it again.
Hence the discussion in the veteran's thread.

Do you have a better or more effective way to handle it in a self moderated forum?

Plus, polls like this are exactly what the admin asked for.

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Actually, I think I was pretty clear with what I ment in the first post. My vote is not dependent on the things you bring up but more on the way this is handled.

Also I did not accuse anyone of anything other than using the wrong methods in resolving this. The vote itself wasnt anything I questioned at all.

If you actually read those things into my post you should reread it again.
You just admitted that your vote has nothing to do with the actual evidence, but the way they're acting. How foolish can you be? This poll isn't about our methods, it's about a man who has wronged the forum.
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Hence the discussion in the veteran's thread.

Do you have a better or more effective way to handle it in a self moderated forum?

Plus, polls like this are exactly what the admin asked for.

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Its not the vote as such. The vote system is a good tool. Its just the personal attacks that are, in my view, a bad way of doing something like this. It makes the whole thing seam more like a personal vendetta than an issue of facts.

And no, Im not new to the internet but it makes me sad every time things go into the "its personal" level when it should be about things that has happened. Yes, i know there is information as well but personal attacks should be frowned uppon.
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You just admitted that your vote has nothing to do with the actual evidence, but the way they're acting. How foolish can you be? This poll isn't about our methods, it's about a man who has wronged the forum.
The poll is about banning him. I voted "no" because quite a few people arguing for it are acting like they are doing it out of personal hatred. View my vote as a protest against that kind of behavour.
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The poll is about banning him. I voted "no" because quite a few people arguing for it are acting like they are doing it out of personal hatred. View my vote as a protest against that kind of behavour.
Again, your vote is based on the people, not the man in question, therefore your vote is entirely invalid. Erroneous! Erroneous on all counts!
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How its Handled!?? Its being handled the way it should be! Who are these people!
Well, I presented myself a couple of weeks ago so you are welcome to look it up in the "new to the forum posts" part of this site if thats really what you are interested in.

If not I guess you just tried to argue that I am Tyler in disguise or that my views are meaningsless compared to yours?
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Well, I presented myself a couple of weeks ago so you are welcome to look it up in the "new to the forum posts" part of this site if thats really what you are interested in.

If not I guess you just tried to argue that I am Tyler in disguise or that my views are meaningsless compared to yours?
Your views & vote are both meaningless. You didn't even read the problems & evidence.
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Again, your vote is based on the people, not the man in question, therefore your vote is entirely invalid. Erroneous! Erroneous on all counts!
You are entitled to you view offcourse. I still stand by my vote for the same sake as before.
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Your views & vote are both meaningless. You didn't even read the problems & evidence.
Well, I can actually vote no just because I think this seam more like a thread of posting bad things about a person than a thread about facts. Founded or unfounded it does not create a good climate for a debate.
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Its not the vote as such. The vote system is a good tool. Its just the personal attacks that are, in my view, a bad way of doing something like this. It makes the whole thing seam more like a personal vendetta than an issue of facts.

And no, Im not new to the internet but it makes me sad every time things go into the "its personal" level when it should be about things that has happened. Yes, i know there is information as well but personal attacks should be frowned uppon.
This is a discussion about his character. How can it sound anything but "personal"?

This is not a discussion about which driver heats up more. It is a discussion about whether we will allow a person that has acted the way he has (and continues to act) to do business in this forum.

People dislike confrontation. However, sometimes it is needed to deal with an unplesant situation.

I ask you again, do you have a better way to deal with situations like this in a self moderated forum? PM's and thread bashing have not worked. Appeals to the admin have not worked. Give me an alternative before you vote to perpetuate a situation that has already become unberable.

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