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I'm ecstatic to see people banding together against these Nazi policies.

If our government continues to be ran by these old white men who think the internets are what's killing us all we could be looking at Viva la revolution in the coming years, americans aren't going to sit round while our country becomes the model student of the tyrannical England we were running from when we founded the United States...


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It's pretty sad that 55 people didn't have an opinion before that.
Look at all those square oldsters running the show...

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I don't think they realize that this is gonna have a bigger effect on them than it will everyone else on the internet.

I'm not usually a supporter of people attacking/hacking/DDoS'ing websites, but this whole SOPA bullshit is just insane, so I hope people keep attacking them over their pure retardedness. There is enough combined bandwidth of everyone on the internet to take down ANY data center, government or not, so I bet they are whimpering in the corner right now after that decision to take down megaupload.

I'd even support Google if they decided to attack! HAH, I wish

It's only going to get worse if it does pass ...

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SOPA and PIPA won't pass.

Of course given the course of politics, another similar, but slightly less crappy piece of sht legislation will be proposed, and will probably go though.

There is already something called the OPEN act, I haven't read the language of it, but it can't be good.

There is just a ridiculous disconnect between the people in charge and reality, so I do agree that things will only get worse.
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Do you really think that Google is against SOPA because of us , the people?
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Do you really think that Google is against SOPA because of us , the people?
Yes and no.

Google is a business as such it's main goal is to generate revenue.

The reason Google, Twitter, etc, are against sop/pipa is financial... the new laws would make it very very hard for them to generate revenue.

So no, they aren't against sopa because of us, they are against sopa because of money.

So long as our goals happened to be aligned with their generation of revenue though... they are the best supporters we could have.

Of course that will not last indefinitely.
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I don't agree. That is like saying "I hope I get shot in the stomach so others will realise how dangerous handguns are". Is the current form of protest ineffective? Yes. Does that mean we should let something terrible happen so people learn how to protest better? NO.

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I don't agree. That is like saying "I hope I get shot in the stomach so others will realise how dangerous handguns are". Is the current form of protest ineffective? Yes. Does that mean we should let something terrible happen so people lean how to protest better? NO.

Martyrdom is never the right course of action.
Yet this sort of reminds me of the old frog experiment.

Drop a frog in boiling water... it jumps out.

Put a frog in cold water and heat it up... the frog stays where it is and dies.

Perhaps some ridiculous piece of legislation that galvanizes the population at large to act against the current, ridiculous regime would be for the better.

Unfortunately I don't think SOPA/PIPA or their descendants are it. It should have been the Patriot Act and it's subsequent abuse if anything.
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Wrote a big, drawn-out post. Decided I should rather just say this:

The internet is our strongest "bear arms." If need be to bear arms, let's all get grizzly!
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Unfortunately I don't think SOPA/PIPA or their descendants are it. It should have been the Patriot Act and it's subsequent abuse if anything.
I agree there, unfortunately that ship has sailed =/ .
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I think Google should of followed wiki's lead and blacked out it's search engine for 24 hours.
If every congressman gets 100,000 e-mails overnight from pissed off citizens, they're going to think twice about voting for it.
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Shit... I was afraid of something like this:

Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

New Petition Asks White House To Submit ACTA To The Senate For Ratification | Techdirt

Basically SOPA/PIPA, but international, on steroids and with less oversight.


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I remember news about ACTA, people got pissed so many things were done in secret.

The thing is that it's not that if SOPA passes the world changes instantly, but it paves the way for a slow change. Each change won't affect your daily life, but cumulative it will take freedom away from you. That's why each and every step in the wrong direction needs to be stopped.

I don't think we should ever give up fighting for our freedom. Considering the internet is more a wild west than a civilisation it's impossible to control. Each and every law will be met with counter measures to work around them. This means the laws are ineffective in stopping whatever activities thay want to stop, but the rest of the internet will suffer from it. If we don't act we'll end up with an internet ruled by media or other corporations with money but with the "pirates" being the ones who are actually free.

Does anyone remember windows XP? Runs better cracked than legal. But I'm now with linux anyway. I hope that will be a general trend, screw big corporations that do it wrong.
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Default Re: SOPA/PIPA blackouts

Lol... remember XP... I was using XP for years and years.

Yes it certainly does run better cracked. So does Win7 actually

ACTA is very scary to me... it's quite a bit worse then sopa/pipa were. I'm surprised there is virtually no media coverage and that POS Obama signed it practically in secret.
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