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View Poll Results: So what's your opinion regarding the use of swearing/profanity on LPF?
Who the F**K cares? It's the internet, and those easily offended shouldn't be surfing it anyways! 12 19.67%
Words can't hurt anyone, so as long as swearing isn't used offensively, it's not a big deal. 29 47.54%
Swearing should be kept to an absolute minimum and always properly censored. There are kids here. 20 32.79%
I refuse to tolerate any vulgarity or anything remotely suggestive. Censorship doesn't cut it. 0 0%
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:10 AM #17
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As long as it's kept to reasonable, sensible levels, I'm fine with a little profanity used for comic effect or as hyperbole. When it's over-used, it just reflects badly on the poster and the forum as a whole, and looks childish.



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To me, INDIRECT swearing doesn't worry me. Ie. "Fuck that"

But swearing directed at certain members is really childish .. "Go fuck yourself .." sorta thing :P
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I still get a bit annoyed at excessive swearing for no reason.. I don't mind it in real life, and I don't mind it on certain other forums I visit, but I've always thought of LPF as a family environment... After all, Jamlin9 is probably 11 by now, and he's certainly not the youngest person on the forums.

I can see swearing being applicable once in a while, if you're trying to emphasize things, like "that was a shitload of photons", but lately I've been seeing more of "your laser sucked hairy goat balls deep into its throat while fucking your grandma's leathery cunt", and it seems a bit excessive.

The old forum rules explicitly forbade any kind of obscenity, saying you'll be banned if you swear because seriously dude, there's 8 year olds here. Now, the rules have relaxed, and the only things in the TOS that say anything about vulgarities are:
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The second to the last choice is ridiculous. There are NO children on this forum. Nobody under 18 is supposed to be here, just as on **** sites. Everyone under 18, what the fuck are you doing here?
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I personally swear like a trooper IRL but I always take into account my audience because usually I know them and their tolerence to bad language. In my head every other word is a swear word, but that's because I don't find myself offensive

Now translate that to the internets? I dont know my audience intimately, I dont know how they will react to the offending pixels, but I do know that I would prefer to err on the safe side and not use bad language, but hey, that's just me.

If I want to insult someone, I will do it with clean language and huge dollop of sarcasm and vitriol

I think it's an age thing, I was brought up to be a nice clean cut young man and not to offend people out of hand. But I am 50 now and my attitude has changed a lot. So I will take this opportunity to tell you all to fucking keep it fucking clean you fucks

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I personally swear like a trooper IRL but I always take into account my audience because usually I know them and their tolerence to bad language. In my head every other word is a swear word, but that's because I don't find myself offensive

Now translate that to the internets? I dont know my audience intimately, I dont know how they will react to the offending pixels, but I do know that I would prefer to err on the safe side and not use bad language, but hey, that's just me.

If I want to insult someone, I will do it with clean language and huge dollop of sarcasm and vitriol

I think it's an age thing, I was brought up to be a nice clean cut young man and not to offend people out of hand. But I am 50 now and my attitude has changed a lot. So I will take this opportunity to tell you all to fucking keep it fucking clean you fucks

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I don't mind swearing, I do it pretty regularly, but not usually in public (well, that is, unless I've had a few beers ). And, this really is like being in public talking with a bunch of friends where anyone can overhear, or in this case, see.

In reality, swearing doesn't hurt anyone but yourself. If it's not used tastefully or with discretion, then it just makes you look immature, unintelligent or just look like an ass (ha! see? tasteful )
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Yikes. I was going to post my genuine opinion about it after I voted, but after READING this thread, I feel like I'll just get cussed out!
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The second to the last choice is ridiculous. There are NO children on this forum. Nobody under 18 is supposed to be here, just as on **** sites. Everyone under 18, what the fuck are you doing here?
You're mistaken. There are LOTS of underage people here. By far the majority. Many knowledgeable and experienced people here are under 18. He doesn't post often, but there's a guy with the nickname jamlin, who joined here when he was 9. He knows quite a lot about lasers, and his parents let him persue the hobby.

This is not a **** site, and I have no idea what gives you the impression that it is. There are more underaged people here than adults.
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From the Terms of Use:

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You must be the age of majority as that is defined in your jurisdiction to visit or use the Website in any manner. You represent and warrant to Laser Pointer Forums that You have reached the age of majority in your jurisdiction, and that You have the right, authority and capacity to agree to and abide by this Agreement. You also represent and warrant to Laser Pointer Forums that You will use the Website in a manner consistent with any and all applicable laws and regulations."

Despite my happiness to see all the responsible minors here, it's still expressly forbidden. I say change the Rule. It's the irresponsible adults who track aircraft with lasers. It's the motivated and generally intelligent amongst the youth that would post here.

It's a shame the Rule is there. A rule not enforced does more harm than good. But while it is a rule, I don't think the language should be cleaned up because of the presence of minors. I think it should be cleaned up out of respect for the readers, and George Carlin's words used rarely and only for appropriately dramatic effect.
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Despite my happiness to see all the responsible minors here, it's still expressly forbidden. I say change the Rule.

It's a shame the Rule is there. A rule not enforced does more harm than good.
I agree with that... If a rule needs to be bent regularly... it should
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Thumbs up Re: POLL: What's the general consensus regarding swearing?

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Originally Posted by laserboystuart View Post
OMG! that made me laugh for like 10 minutes

stuart
haha same

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