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This is kinda 'conspiracy nut material', but I still found it entertaining to watch.
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Happy days for Republicans. Not so happy for Democrats. Still, the polls haven't moved enough........yet........to give Trump the odds of winning this election. We'll just have to wait and see. If the Dems had another October surprise for Trump, they would have dumped it on us by now. So, the Dem's are out of gas, and who knows where this HUGE dump of bad information goes for the Clinton Campaign. FWIW, I took a look at the Deomcratic Underground board (extreme radical left board) and they are spinning in circles not knowing what to do about: Wikileaks, Comeygate and now Donna Brazile-gate. What is evident is that they all know just how corrupt Hillary Clinton really is but will do anything to avoid talking about that.

What will be really interesting, regardless of who wins the presidential election, is the boiling-hot revolt that is taking place internally in the FBI and Justice Department right now - there most certainly will be a lot of long-term fall-out impacting these departments from Clinton's corruption.

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Wikileaks, Comeygate and now Donna Brazile-gate.
Republicans and Democrats can both agree that adding the -gate suffix to scandals should have died in the 90's. The -ghazi suffix is what's in vogue now, like Tom Brady's ballghazi.

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What would that actually result in? An impeachment procedure as soon as clinton becomes president?

I also wonder how the military would react to either outcome. Clinton could be seen as too corrupt to command, and trump has mentally unstable enough as well.

It would be a fairly unique situation for a western country, but there is a point where an army just says 'we will not be having any of that' and simply force new elections. This happens in none-western countries all the time though, so don't think it is not possible.
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Soldiers all come home to live as civilians, well there are career men who stay on for decades who eventually retire, but most will resist any Clinton gun control because it is unconstitutional and although our brave men and women do follow orders, they do have the duty to defend the Constitution and refuse unconstitutional orders.

Clinton is so corrupt that she would be a very impotent President as most people will ignore her laws, much will simply go unenforced and animosity will grow among the millions of unsalvageable deplorable masses and African American super predators.

Clinton has dragged law enforcement through the mud as a tool and it's not fooling people, every BLM uprising would repeat her super predator words and ignore her completely.

Civil unrest would grow and possibly organize if her domestic policy was too aggressive and I know it would be.

We can not keep the rule of law with a known criminal at the helm, Clinton would be a disaster and her foreign policy terrifying.

Growing taxes will stifle business and the spending that supports business, how hard is this to understand?
We are not talking about debt ratio spending that has a positive effect in spite of an increasing debt, but actual loss of the revenue base through over taxation.

Yes we survived and flourished with high taxes in the past, but not with a near zero interest rate and hidden inflation, with the national debt consuming 6% of our spending in just the interest on the debt I don't see how interest rates could go up, not with rising taxes, stimulating the economy and bringing jobs home as Trump has planned is how we will survive and flourish, but Hillary Clinton is not concerned with the future of the deplorable super predators masses, just stuffing her own pockets by selling America out for personal gain, we need to turn things around as Trump has laid out, or descend into that great nation that was as the rest of the world passes us by draining off our remaining wealth.

I don't want to see people hurt and Clinton would in my opinion be a devastating mistake for America that could usher in a lawlessness like we haven't seen before, we simply can not have a Criminal President who puts her self ahead of the Country.
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Soldiers all come home to live as civilians, well there are career men who stay on for decades who eventually retire, but most will resist any Clinton gun control because it is unconstitutional and although our brave men and women do follow orders, they do have the duty to defend the Constitution and refuse unconstitutional orders.

Clinton is so corrupt that she would be a very impotent President as most people will ignore her laws, much will simply go unenforced and animosity will grow among the millions of unsalvageable deplorable masses and African American super predators.

Clinton has dragged law enforcement through the mud as a tool and it's not fooling people, every BLM uprising would repeat her super predator words and ignore her completely.

Civil unrest would grow and possibly organize if her domestic policy was too aggressive and I know it would be.

We can not keep the rule of law with a known criminal at the helm, Clinton would be a disaster and her foreign policy terrifying.

Growing taxes will stifle business and the spending that supports business, how hard is this to understand?
We are not talking about debt ratio spending that has a positive effect in spite of an increasing debt, but actual loss of the revenue base through over taxation.

Yes we survived and flourished with high taxes in the past, but not with a near zero interest rate and hidden inflation, with the national debt consuming 6% of our spending in just the interest on the debt I don't see how interest rates could go up, not with rising taxes, stimulating the economy and bringing jobs home as Trump has planned is how we will survive and flourish, but Hillary Clinton is not concerned with the future of the deplorable super predators masses, just stuffing her own pockets by selling America out for personal gain, we need to turn things around as Trump has laid out, or descend into that great nation that was as the rest of the world passes us by draining off our remaining wealth.

I don't want to see people hurt and Clinton would in my opinion be a devastating mistake for America that could usher in a lawlessness like we haven't seen before, we simply can not have a Criminal President who puts her self ahead of the Country.
That's one thing Trump and I agree on. We must bring back Law & Order.

It was a really good show.

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*8 years. Don't think for a second that if the establishment manages to install Hillary this time round that they won't go for double time.
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I don't think we will have the same old stuff with Hillary, we will have 10X the same old crap.
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Clinton is so corrupt that she would be a very impotent President as most people will ignore her laws, much will simply go unenforced...
That's a realistic option as well, laws being written but noone could be bothered to enforce them.

I doubt the US military will be willing to disarm citizens, and even police may be reluctant to enforce such regulations as long as people don't cause trouble.

I suppose this works both ways and Trump giving mad orders would result in them not being followed either, in case he thinks it's a nice idea to nuke mecca or something like that.

This is a problem any government faces: if you push things to far, your military and police forces simply decline to carry out orders when unreasonable. I think this is a good thing though, certainly when it comes to military actions. A military commander could refuse to carry out an attack that would result in retalliation cause millions of civillian deaths.
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Frankly I and many people here in Europe, are very concerned that Clinton might get in. I realise Trump is also not a particularly good choice, but at least he will (probably) not start WW3, preferring mediation and discourse to posturing and aggression.

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"To most of us, the American presidential campaign is a media freak show, in which Donald Trump is the arch villain. But Trump is loathed by those with power in the United States for reasons that have little to do with his obnoxious behaviour and opinions. To the invisible government in Washington, the unpredictable Trump is an obstacle to America's design for the 21st century.

This is to maintain the dominance of the United States and to subjugate Russia, and, if possible, China.

To the militarists in Washington, the real problem with Trump is that, in his lucid moments, he seems not to want a war with Russia; he wants to talk with the Russian president, not fight him; he says he wants to talk with the president of China.

In the first debate with Hillary Clinton, Trump promised not to be the first to introduce nuclear weapons into a conflict. He said, "I would certainly not do first strike. Once the nuclear alternative happens, it's over." That was not news.

Did he really mean it? Who knows? He often contradicts himself. But what is clear is that Trump is considered a serious threat to the status quo maintained by the vast national security machine that runs the United States, regardless of who is in the White House.

The CIA wants him beaten. The Pentagon wants him beaten. The media wants him beaten. Even his own party wants him beaten. He is a threat to the rulers of the world - unlike Clinton who has left no doubt she is prepared to go to war with nuclear-armed Russia and China.

Clinton has the form, as she often boasts. Indeed, her record is proven. As a senator, she backed the bloodbath in Iraq. When she ran against Obama in 2008, she threatened to "totally obliterate" Iran. As Secretary of State, she colluded in the destruction of governments in Libya and Honduras and set in train the baiting of China.

She has now pledged to support a No Fly Zone in Syria - a direct provocation for war with Russia. Clinton may well become the most dangerous president of the United States in my lifetime - a distinction for which the competition is fierce."
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She's also a lying little cow. 10 or so years ago (heck it might not even have been 10 years) she stood up in front of millions and said openly that LGBT people shouldn't get equal rights. Now she's touting a different story and as an LGBT person myself it makes me sick. Steering the thread away a moment from war, it's her inability to tell the truth that I really don't like.
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To the militarists in Washington, the real problem with Trump is that, in his lucid moments, he seems not to want a war with Russia; he wants to talk with the Russian president, not fight him; he says he wants to talk with the president of China.
One upside of Trump is that he might actually take advise from his staff seriously, something he should be used to in his years in business even if the net success of that business adventure is somewhat dubious.

I'd think that trump would, for example, be more sensitive to advise from millitary leaders on choosing which conflicts to enage in and which ones to leave alone. Clinton might just bomb the heck out of some random nation because she promised to do that to some funding partner, while trump doesn't have to return many favors and could see doing so proves no benefit to the US while incurring large costs and risks to US lives.
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Avalanche of new evidence shows Clinton had intent.

It's time that the American people DEMAND justice.

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