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At this point I'll be very surprised if Trump manages to win this. He simply has no win condition other than hoping uninspired Dems have low voter turnout.


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We are bollocksed. Thanks to the fact that the US likes to play world police, and given that the UK is right in between the US and Russia, I am not looking too hopeful. People I know keep saying war will never happen, I hope they're right, but I believe they're wrong.
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We are bollocksed. Thanks to the fact that the US likes to play world police, and given that the UK is right in between the US and Russia, I am not looking too hopeful. People I know keep saying war will never happen, I hope they're right, but I believe they're wrong.
Meh, people have been prognosticating this for 65 years, and we came close in the early 60s with the Cuban missile crisis. If it had not been for Kennedy's disregard for the general's warnings and to pursue a back room deal with the Russians, we would have already been destroyed. There simply is nothing to be gained by another world war, and certainly not a nuclear one. You can let fear rule your life, but I suspect we are no closer to a world war than we were yesterday and that won't change. Besides, if it is nuclear, the warheads will travel over the north pole, so Great Britain is not in the middle.
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Besides, if it is nuclear, the warheads will travel over the north pole, so Great Britain is not in the middle.

It's possible that the UK would be targeted though, seeing as they have ballistic missile submarines loaded with nuclear weapons. Right near my home town too.
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True, but only if you believe we are closer to nuclear war than we ever have been before. I don't see it. But, it is nearly impossible to predict. I chose not to live in constant fear.
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I am still debating whether to vote for Hillary or not honestly. I am located in California, so my vote isn't for awhile but seeing as Hillary has a pretty good shot of winning this election I may go ahead and cast my vote for Jill Stein since I agree with her points much more then that lady Hillary who is a complete bought out burglar!

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Alex, great. as long as you vote. There are many other issues and local officials that you need to vote your opinion on as well. It's difficult to complain if you don't vote.
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We have been at war in Iraq for over 15 years and we still have boots on the ground and are bombing, yes we are helping the Iraqis and moderates, but we are still blowing stuff up and killing people 15 years later as well as supplying weapons and training, Hillary wants to impose a no fly zone in Syria right in Russia's face, Trump want's to be friends.

I know the military industrial complex makes money, but when will it end, we take the same ground and give it back, it's insanity, our young men and women paid in blood to take that ground and we walked away to see ISIS step in, now we are helping Iraq to take the same land again, we don't seem to be helping anyone, and Hillary wants more of the same.
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And mine. In fact, my home town, which lies on the Holy Loch, was very prominent during the Cold War as the naval base for all Clyde operations. The trident system is based "just doon the watter" from there. You probably know by now what my home town is (I'll give you a hint again- holy loch :P) but please don't say it out loud we arrived in either late 93 or early 94 just as the show was over - but I hear the place was bustling with life when the Americans were here.

I was actually thinking about this whole war situation last night, and I agree we probably aren't on doomsday's doorstep yet. We are a far more connected world than we were ~70 years ago, which would make it far harder (at least for the developed world, in which I include Russia) to go all out batshit crazy on each other.

I don't let fear rule my life, if I did I'd be in bits about the questions currently surrounding my (mental and physical) health - but life is indeed too short.
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I am still debating whether to vote for Hillary or not honestly. I am located in California, so my vote isn't for awhile but seeing as Hillary has a pretty good shot of winning this election I may go ahead and cast my vote for Jill Stein since I agree with her points much more then that lady Hillary who is a complete bought out burglar!

I think we'll see a first women president soon folks

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That is great. I am really enthusiastic about the message that record votes for third party or even write in candidates will have on this election. Imagine the message if a good percentage of all voters did not vote for the Demopublicans. Voting against the establishment that has driven our country into the ground and divided us under false pretenses to maintain that grip of power for pretty much all of our history as a nation. Both sides to this two party nightmare are happy to keep up that act that we are making a difference voting for one or another side when they all have the same goal. Power. They could not do without the other to play the game with. It is like being a kid watching WWE wrestling not with no concept that it is all a fictitious act to divert and keep our attention fixated away from seeing how fake they really are and how they never advance our expectations but their own.

Anyway yea lot more real issues down ticket do need our attention as well and are an important reason not to get turned off from voting regardless of your positions or how much the process if frustrating with the choices that are presented.
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Also going to vote Jill Stein. Considered doing a Sanders write in, but since he dropped out, I no longer see a point to write him in.

IMO, if he hadn't dropped out, but said he's going to run 3rd party, after the democratic nomination, he would have easily beaten both Clinton, and Trump.
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Seems relevant to this election.
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I find it fascinating you guys can "write in" a third party candidate on the ballot paper. Here, if you write anything other than an X in one of the boxes, it is considered a void paper and doesn't cast a vote.
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I find it fascinating you guys can "write in" a third party candidate on the ballot paper. Here, if you write anything other than an X in one of the boxes, it is considered a void paper and doesn't cast a vote.
I don't want to type all of them out, but on my ballot the party affiliations are...
  • Democratic
  • Republican
  • American Constitution
  • Libertarian
  • Green
  • Approval Voting
  • American Delta
  • Prohibition
  • America's
  • Veterans of America
  • Socialist Workers
  • Independent American
  • Kotlikoff for President
  • Socialism and Liberation
  • Nonviolent Resistance / Pacifist
  • Independent People
  • American Solidarity
  • Unafilliated
  • Unafilliated
  • Nutrition
  • Unafilliated
  • Socialist USA
  • write-in

...so I've got all those, plus a write-in. Apparently it doesn't take much to get on the ballot in Colorado.

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