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How would you classsify this...

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Recently I was sent 2 copies of LaserChat snippets from yesterday...
(no... I don't do LaserChat)
I thought I would share it with the Forum..
How would the members here classify this...:thinking:
Am I the only one that thinks that this sounds like a conspiracy...:thinking:
Is this what the LPF Forum is about....:thinking:

It is strange that the majority of the latest Negative Reps
I received came from those same LaserChat members.....:whistle:
For those who do not know.... the LaserChat discussion has to
do with a Review that a Member made....

http://laserpointerforums.com/f52/kenometer-pro-review-50680.html

I will not reply to anything posted on this Thread...
I'll let the Members here post any discussions...

MarioMaster maybe _2007Revolution should have the thread on LPF locked
21:56 MarioMaster lasersbee is still going at it
21:56 CJayLPF yeah he is
21:57 CJayLPF I will never buy a meter from him now because of that
21:57 pontiacg5 i dont see the big issue
21:57 pontiacg5 the wires work, whats the point of makng them look nice?
21:57 WretchedMerc I dont see the reason why he is shitting on ken constantly?
21:57 CJayLPF Then you shouldn't have sent it out... Plain and simple but I guess it was a way of dumping unwanted stock.. Who knew the damn thing would conk out...
21:57 pontiacg5 because its competition
21:57 CJayLPF So after the warrantee is over and I want to repair it myself I'll need to send it back to you because you have those Hot Glue removal skills..
21:58 dont_lase_me_bro CJ & Simon, how is this then?
21:58 CJayLPF Rev this kind of bashing should be dealt with
21:58 MarioMaster pokes _2007Revolution
21:58 dont_lase_me_bro
21:58 CJayLPF nice DLMB
21:59 _2007Revolution nice
21:59 CJayLPF can you round it out?
21:59 CJayLPF make it look like its bending along with the hat thingy
21:59 dont_lase_me_bro lemme see
21:59 MarioMaster _2007Revolution: could you please close the kenometer review thread?
22:00 *** Mr_Ray quit (Quit: )
22:00 CJayLPF a good idea Rev
22:00 CJayLPF the review has been made
22:00 dont_lase_me_bro No CJ
22:00 dont_lase_me_bro I can not
22:00 CJayLPF geez I hope laserbee doesnt give me negative feed back
22:00 CJayLPF that would hurt
22:00 CJayLPF want me to dlmb?
22:01 Kenom won't make any difference he's started the "shit storm" on PL
22:01 MarioMaster thread has been closed
22:01 dont_lase_me_bro sure Cj
22:01 CJayLPF good mario
22:01 CJayLPF Kenom isnt the only one who looked bad after that
22:01 CJayLPF laserbee lost me as a potential customer
22:02 Kenom look, I'm not saying I condone his actions. I'm saying a person should be held responsible for their fuckups.
22:03 Kenom I will be held accountable and I expect nothing less
22:03 dont_lase_me_bro nice
22:03 Kenom but for christs sake, shut the fuck up!
22:03 dont_lase_me_bro lasersbee just attacked me by PM
22:03 Kenom not directed at anyone here
22:03 MarioMaster agreed
22:03 dont_lase_me_bro
22:04 pontiacg5 what is this "anti kenom" forum? I want to check it out only because i want to make timelord mad
22:05 pontiacg5 because i hate that douche
22:05 Kenom hahaha ***************.com
22:06 pontiacg5 my eyes hurt...
22:06 dont_lase_me_bro What the F#@k are you talking about...
22:06 pontiacg5 me?
22:06 dont_lase_me_bro You'd rather buy a POS like the one reviewd...
22:06 dont_lase_me_bro just a sec
22:06 dont_lase_me_bro these are quotes from lasersbees PMs to me
22:07 dont_lase_me_bro Mibpaste.bin
22:07 pontiacg5 ooh
22:07 dont_lase_me_bro click on that link please everybody
22:07 dont_lase_me_bro that is the reply I got
22:08 CJayLPF what did he mean by lists?
22:08 pontiacg5 kenom why would you sell those kenometers to laserbee? He's probalbly just taking them apart to improve his lpm
22:08 MarioMaster oh noes
22:08 MarioMaster you're on his shit list
22:08 MarioMaster whatever shall you do
22:08 Kenom tsk tsk, your not on his nice list anymore.. means only coal for you.
22:08 MarioMaster heheheh
22:08 CJayLPF I wish I was a mod
22:09 _2007Revolution eek!
22:09 CJayLPF the thought of justice scares eh Rev
22:10 dont_lase_me_bro I am on his bad list....
22:10 dont_lase_me_bro This will be fun
22:10 MarioMaster join the club
22:11 WretchedMerc I just wanna be on everyone's good list XD
22:11 MarioMaster i tried to be nice to lasersbee
22:11 MarioMaster not anymore
22:11 dont_lase_me_bro so did I
22:12 pontiacg5 he seems to show his true colors every now and then
22:12 dont_lase_me_bro until he started all the shit
22:12 pontiacg5 he openly called me a idiot in a past thread
22:12 pontiacg5 because i asked him if he had a power meter that could read 40W
22:12 WretchedMerc I just hate seeing people shit all over a friend!
22:12 MarioMaster what are you serious pontiacg5?
22:12 pontiacg5 he said no you cant the laserbee only goes to 1
22:12 pontiacg5 1W
22:12 CJayLPF ...
22:12 pontiacg5 yeah
22:12 dont_lase_me_bro he has no right to be acting how he is, now he is saying he is gunna give me a -rep
22:12 MarioMaster facepalms
22:12 dont_lase_me_bro I hope not
22:12 dont_lase_me_bro as I DO care about my rep
22:12 dont_lase_me_bro but he is such an ass
22:13 dont_lase_me_bro I am not gunna just sit here
22:13 CJayLPF he'll neg rep me too dlmb
22:13 pontiacg5 ill neg rep him for all the good it will do if he stars dishing it out
22:13 CJayLPF he did more than state his opinion
22:13 MarioMaster besides even with the massive rep power bee has he only knocked me down 2 rep power lol
22:14 pontiacg5 lol i only have 7
22:14 WretchedMerc ha I like my rep XD
22:14 dont_lase_me_bro I have 33
22:14 dont_lase_me_bro it would hurt me
22:14 Things w000p
22:14 Things New IGBT's r here
22:14 MarioMaster y hello thar Things
22:14 WretchedMerc never had a neg!
22:14 Things y yello there Mario
22:14 dont_lase_me_bro LOL
22:14 CJayLPF good for you man
22:14 CJayLPF hope it stays that way
22:14 dont_lase_me_bro sirVesa tried to -rep me
22:15 MarioMaster i can't wait to see him talking shit about my meters
22:15 dont_lase_me_bro it did not show as a neg
22:15 Things MarioMaster, who?
22:15 CJayLPF haha dlmb
22:15 MarioMaster Things: lasersbee
22:15 dont_lase_me_bro lasersbee
22:15 CJayLPF who else laserbee
22:15 pontiacg5 http://laserpointerforums.com/f57/f57/f59/ve...ion-49789.html
22:15 Things xD
22:15 pontiacg5 thats the thread
22:15 dont_lase_me_bro he is going on a shit talk spree
22:15 pontiacg5 post #12
22:16 dont_lase_me_bro is eagerly awaiting lasersbee's reply
22:16 dont_lase_me_bro I told him that I gave sirVesa the neg for acting dumb, as YOU are now
22:17 pontiacg5 i want an argon laser lol
22:17 Things can't stand laserbee
22:17 CJayLPF dlmb youre going to get him after you
22:17 dont_lase_me_bro IDC CJ
22:17 MarioMaster Things: watch out, he might neg rep you
22:17 MarioMaster =P
22:17 dont_lase_me_bro someone has to stand up for the forum
22:17 Things Oh no, not my already useless rep
22:17 dont_lase_me_bro lasersbee is just an ass
22:17 MarioMaster Things: that was my thoughts lol
22:18 MarioMaster he actually neg repped me back
22:18 CJayLPF I mean just choose your battles dlmb
22:18 Things If you're rep isnt in the hundreds, you odn't matter
22:18 Things >.>
22:18 MarioMaster i thought he was too high and mighty for that
22:18 CJayLPF strike when the time is right
22:18 pontiacg5 IMO the kenometer is better than the laserbee ayway, at least the kenometer is in a housing
22:18 MarioMaster haha yeah pontiacg5
22:18 CJayLPF hahaha
22:18 pontiacg5 talk aboult loose wires ;/

Yeah.... I know it is C/P but I have no reason to believe this info
to be untrue or falsified in any way....


Jerry
 
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SpikeD

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There does not appear to be any conspiracy or threat here. Just LC gossip, mostly by members who dislike your recent actions.
I think the person who sent this to you should stop bringing drama to the forum. There is a reason this conversation happened on LC and the original review thread was closed - people (including me) like to gossip about forum related issues, but do not want the gossiping to take place on LPF itself.
IMO, this is like recording some kids talking smack about a guy from their class during lunch break, then playing it in the middle of physics class.
You ask "Is this what the LPF Forum is about...." (btw "laser pointer forum forum" :na: Sorry, couldn't resist)
The answer from me is a clear no.
Seb
 
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I agree with Sebs point here. People should have an outlet in which to talk about things that happen in the laser world without it being publically posted here or on other forums.. we have PMs too. I've been involved in some of the LC conversations lately and while some people have voiced a lot of emotions over this, I would not say there is any conspiracy or threat to you afoot Jerry. Perhaps a good amount of resolve to overcome this negative publicity, but I wouldn't have any respect for any of these guys if they didn't display that resolve. It's the only proper course of action under these kinds of circumstances.

To be clear, I'm not taking sides here. Jerry, you've helped me out lots of times. I have a Laserbee I and I love it, it works awesome and it's engineered well. I also watched the Kenometer be designed and I know that it's design seems solid, and it has a very good feature set if properly built and applied. I also have seen the production version being built and the build quality (from what I've seen... NOT firsthand experience to be clear) is quite good. Ken just screwed up by freaking out and sending his prototype (which was a rat's nest as prototypes often are) out for a review. That's been his only real error here from my perspective.
 
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Seems to me like a lot of people are disappointed with the way you conducted yourselves in the review thread. It isn't a threat to you in any way - buy lots of people are irritated that you felt to question Ken's honesty, and keep going when he had explained it

Rob

edit2 : I calmed down lol

edit 3: I don't know if you saw my last edit, but anyway I will try to stucture it better. It doesn't look good if you immediately go to your other forum and post things like:
Luckily it is about the only thing Kenom couldn't screw up...
As expected the kids in the Kenom Fanclub Neg Repped me overnight...

It just makes you look like a dick.
 
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I see a lot of people upset with your taking the opportunity of a mistake to march me to the chopping block and execute me! Nothing more.

If you want copies of all the other negative crap that's been said about your actions I'll happily provide those for you to post more stupid drama on this forum.
 
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