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Default How to prevent newcomers buying from WL?

They have started advertising here and it seems that more and more newcomers will take for grqnted that LPF promotes the company. It was the same with warnlasers. A lit had ordered from them..

There must be some way.. Like noting in the corner that it is a ad.

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I'm sorry, I just have to ask... this is a terrible question... why not?
I for one will never buy a laser, since if I'm going to spend that much money on something I will allways want to learn about it as well. Thats where you guys come in

But, as far as I can tell from there advertisements, they have the lowest prices around.
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im gonna be blunt,

i do tons of research before i buy anything especially if it is expensive. if you dont you are a moron and are just asking to get ripped off. a simple wicked lasers search in google..... well
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I for one will never buy a laser, since if I'm going to spend that much money on something I will allways want to learn about it as well. Thats where you guys come in

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The thing is, some TRUSTED members have ordered recently and are saying that the service and lasers have improved. You can warn the newcomer about WL history but you cant really tell him not to buy from them. Its the newcomers choice to trust them or not.

And Im not supporting WL I would probably still not buy anything from them.
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It was their Sales Rep/Mod "Dan" than convinced me
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It might be a good idea for c0ld to put a large disclaimer on top that Advertisements are NOT Endorsement, and that anyone can buy an ad.

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Where can I get some of what you're smoking?!?!

@Jerry - Dan and ccmcmbvwhatever basically cemented my opinion of the company. Company reps that lie repeatedly combined with the company track record... Idk why there are people who still buy from WL.

I mean would it surprise anyone to learn if they sent vets who have gotten lasers recently, cherry picked units to help out their rep?

There are still threads about underspec lasers coming from them afaik. If other companies are held to a higher standard. Why not WL?

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Dan and ccmcmbvwhatever basically cemented my opinion of the company. Company reps that lie repeatedly combined with the company track record... Idk why there are people who still buy from WL.

I heard they both got fired...


Personally, I like their products... and the only one I ever had to wait for (I think it was around 100 days) was the Arctic when it first came out.
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While I think WL is overpriced and often sub-par quality, and also quite surprised to see a resurgence of WL purchases in the last two years, if people are not going to do their research on expensive purchases like lasers that's their own fault. The information is not hidden, and there are many alternatives, even in the ad selection. We can't do anything about people finding WL on Google or via some other site. However, we should at least expect that someone coming to this site would take the time to at least read some posts, not just click on the ads to buy lasers. There's not much we can do if they're not going to meet us half-way.

We may blame WL for outrageous prices and poor quality, but ultimately it is the buyer who decides to make the purchase. Maybe WL is just the kind of place that liberates money from the grasp of those who are unworthy of having it.

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I never thought I'd say this, but not all of the Kryptons being sold now are underspec Kraptons.

I got a discounted one that was thoroughly tested by Cyparagon and it has a +800mW average over 5 minutes. I've seen it peak as high as 1100mW.

If you can find a used one that's been LPM'ed, it might be a good deal compared to the other high powered greenies currently available.
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If a Laser that is being advertised and sold as Continuous
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I got a 30mW green laser from WL about 2 years ago, I think it was an E2??? I ordered it Mon. afternoon and it was at my door Fri. It has worked great since, but now they don't have much to offer anymore. And from what I've been reading about their shipping and the high prices I won't go back.
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Don't bite the hand that feeds ya. I'm surprised they asked to advertize here with the anti-WL attitude.
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Don't bite the hand that feeds ya. I'm surprised they asked to advertize here with the anti-WL attitude.
WL is only one of many advertisers on this forum.

But by your logic do you think that google for example Google endorses every single ad that they display...?
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