Gungho ninja-like focus

FlutterPie · Dec 4, 2013

Lazerbeak said:
Do you Know that this Gungho stuff will have the same effect as Adderal?

~ LB

Well I guess that's pretty good news. Although, how close can it actually be really? Adderall is an amphetamine, I'm not really sure what's in this gung-ho stuff. I think like a little bit of caffeine and some natural stuff.

Cyparagon · Dec 4, 2013

Lazerbeak said:
Curious what the active ingredient is.

GungHo - Ninja Like Focus | Improve Focus and Concentration

It's all a bunch of hippy herbal nonsense except maybe Citicoline.

Lazerbeak · Dec 4, 2013

FlutterPie said:
Well I guess that's pretty good news. Although, how close can it actually be really? Adderall is an amphetamine, I'm not really sure what's in this gung-ho stuff. I think like a little bit of caffeine and some natural stuff.

Didn't say in the link. Really don't know what's in it. Might be a good idea to ask what the active ingredient is. Could be anything

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Cyparagon said:
It's all a bunch of hippy herbal nonsense except maybe Citicoline.

Agreed. missed the ingredients

But will it be a suitable replacement for a Prescribed Med?

Don't know why your switching or stopping, Sorry.

~ LB

Seoul_lasers · Dec 4, 2013

FlutterPie said:
Well, I just bought this thing called "Gungho". Its supposed to help you focus. I remember seeing it in a video a few weeks ago and decided to buy it. I need help focusing so hopefully this stuff helps. Anyways, since I bought it, they gave me a link where people can get a free trial pack. You mix this stuff with water I guess, you get 3 in the trial pack. You have to pay for shipping though. I don't know how much shipping is.

Anyways if you want to try it out here is the link

Gungho

I'd stay clear of any of these mental "focussing" concoctions as many are manufactured with grey market materials in countries that have 0 safety standards. China is currently the number 1# producer of these designer drugs.
Many people are discovering the hard way that they contain a toxic slew of amphetamines, Mephradone, and even some SSRIs have shown up.
SSRI, stands for Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor. These do and frequently cause hallucinations and "permanent" loss of certain sensations (hot, cold, pleasure..etc) and a variety of other long lasting effects.

You're risking permanent brain damage by using them even when doing them once.

Please do the right thing and throw these away. We don't want perma-fried members.
:tsk::tsk::thinking::thinking::thinking:

Quote from article on designer drugs WIKI:

Mephedrone is one of hundreds of designer drugs or legal highs that have been reported in recent years, including artificial chemicals such as synthetic cannabis and semisynthetic substances such as methylhexanamine. These drugs are primarily developed to avoid being controlled by laws against illegal drugs, thus giving them the label of designer drugs.[8] According to the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, the synthesis of mephedrone was first reported in 1929 by Saem de Burnaga Sanchez in the Bulletin de la Société Chimique de France, under the name "toluyl-alpha-monomethylaminoethylcetone",[1]:17[9] but the compound remained an obscure product of academia until 2003, when it was "re-discovered" and publicised by an underground chemist on The Hive website, working under the pseudonym "Kinetic".[10] Kinetic posted on the site, "I’ve been bored over the last couple of days and had a few fun reagents lying around, so I thought I’d try and make some 1-(4-methylphenyl)-2-methylaminopropanone hydrochloride, or 4-methylmethcathinone." before going on to describe that after taking it, the user had a "fantastic sense of well-being that I haven’t got from any drug before except my beloved Ecstasy."[11]

FlutterPie · Dec 4, 2013

I know designer drugs are bad. An example is spice (k2), that shit is crazy. I can tell you I have never had a good experience on that. But can you really consider Gungho a designer drug? Like Cyparagon said, it's just a bunch of hippy stuff mainly.

As for SSRI's, I hate these things. Nowadays you can get these stupid things prescribed to you over the phone. Doctors get paid to prescribe these to people even though most of them don't need it. I have even heard doctors say "half the world is on them, and the other half should be". That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. SSRI'S are a terrible thing for the most part. So many people are on them that don't need to be, and who knows what it's doing to them. I remember hearing something like, 15 of the last mass shootings the shooter was on SSRI'S except one or something. Enough ranting for now. But needless to say, I hate these things.

Seoul_lasers · Dec 4, 2013

FlutterPie said:
I know designer drugs are bad. An example is spice (k2), that shit is crazy. I can tell you I have never had a good experience on that. But can you really consider Gungho a designer drug? Like Cyparagon said, it's just a bunch of hippy stuff mainly.

As for SSRI's, I hate these things. Nowadays you can get these stupid things prescribed to you over the phone. Doctors get paid to prescribe these to people even though most of them don't need it. I have even heard doctors say "half the world is on them, and the other half should be". That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. SSRI'S are a terrible thing for the most part. So many people are on them that don't need to be, and who knows what it's doing to them. I remember hearing something like, 15 of the last mass shootings the shooter was on SSRI'S except one or something. Enough ranting for now. But needless to say, I hate these things.

yes, well I have experienced SSRIs before. They can really f$ck you up permanently especially when they are given improperly.

**Cytidine diphosphate which is one known active ingredient in Gungho energy products was actually developed in Japan as a treatment for Alzheimer's patients to repair cognitive functions.
It's still not really supposed to be used in food.
I would throw it out.

Javalin · Dec 4, 2013

SSRI's changed my life. Though the docs aren't even sure why. I suffer from migraines and the only thing that works consistently enough for me is Elavil. I asked the doc why an anti-depressant would help and the best reason he could come up with is it does something to the brain while you sleep... after 60 years they just found out that people who had migraines sometimes benefitted from it. Modern medicine never fails to amaze me by both being advanced and so poorly understood at the same time.

Lazerbeak · Dec 4, 2013

Seoul_lasers said:
I'd stay clear of any of these mental "focussing" concoctions as many are manufactured with grey market materials in countries that have 0 safety standards. China is currently the number 1# producer of these designer drugs.
Many people are discovering the hard way that they contain a toxic slew of amphetamines, Mephradone, and even some SSRIs have shown up.
SSRI, stands for Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor. These do and frequently cause hallucinations and "permanent" loss of certain sensations (hot, cold, pleasure..etc) and a variety of other long lasting effects.

You're risking permanent brain damage by using them even when doing them once.

Please do the right thing and throw these away. We don't want perma-fried members.
:tsk::tsk::thinking::thinking::thinking:

Quote from article on designer drugs WIKI:

Great info Seoul Lasers! Actually what I had in mind when I first read Flutterpie's OP. Funny thing about Grey Market RC's is that they state "Not for Human Consumption" to sidestep regulations :crackup:

Glad to know you are informed Flutterpie. Good input too Javalin

~ LB

Seoul_lasers · Dec 5, 2013

Lazerbeak said:
Great info Seoul Lasers! Actually what I had in mind when I first read Flutterpie's OP. Funny thing about Grey Market RC's is that they state "Not for Human Consumption" to sidestep regulations :crackup:

Glad to know you are informed Flutterpie. Good input too Javalin

~ LB

Actually, just going to say that the PRC allows drug companies that produce
drug (clones) of brand name Psycho-pharmaceuticals to offload their extra production materials to these designer companies. Since there are next to no health standards in PRC these companies can get away with some horrific
things.
Often these companies are cutting their designer drugs with just about anything they can find.
Pfizer and Shenzhen Pharmaceuticals are at least partially to blame for providing (logistical) materials to these companies.

IF you ever get a chance to visit Beijing or other areas in PRC take a walk into a (scientific) supply store. It's pretty scary what can be bought without any kind of background checks.
Then really scare yourself by walking into a grocery store and see just how much faking products is going on. Virtually all eggs in China sold at stores are completely FAKE. They are completely made from plastics. Beef/pork meat is often marinated rat, dog, cat or even polyethylene glycol and a combination of these items.
Really.... Never mind the one child policy, I think China is well on it's way to sterilizing it's own population with it's own greed.

Food for thought.

Javalin · Dec 5, 2013

I don't think its as much greed as it is lack of natural resources. Now the rest of their manufacturing is just pure greed.

Lazerbeak · Dec 5, 2013

Seoul_lasers said:
Actually, just going to say that the PRC allows drug companies that produce
drug (clones) of brand name Psycho-pharmaceuticals to offload their extra production materials to these designer companies. Since there are next to no health standards in PRC these companies can get away with some horrific
things.
Often these companies are cutting their designer drugs with just about anything they can find.
Pfizer and Shenzhen Pharmaceuticals are at least partially to blame for providing (logistical) materials to these companies.

IF you ever get a chance to visit Beijing or other areas in PRC take a walk into a (scientific) supply store. It's pretty scary what can be bought without any kind of background checks.
Then really scare yourself by walking into a grocery store and see just how much faking products is going on. Virtually all eggs in China sold at stores are completely FAKE. They are completely made from plastics. Beef/pork meat is often marinated rat, dog, cat or even polyethylene glycol and a combination of these items.
Really.... Never mind the one child policy, I think China is well on it's way to sterilizing it's own population with it's own greed.

Food for thought.

I've heard about the synthetic food products in China from a family member. I think the English translation is "Black Heart" food. Absolutely horrible. The cooking oil in Taiwan is all contaminated or toxic in some way as well, making people sterile. I've also heard stories online of legitimate Drug manufacturers in China making and selling illegal drugs as well. The Feds in the US are having quite a time trying to stop the importation of "unique" chemical compounds that are analogues of scheduled or outright illegal drugs. So called "grey market" compounds easily bought online.

Is it all about just making a buck? Sad and frightening.

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Javalin said:
I don't think its as much greed as it is lack of natural resources. Now the rest of their manufacturing is just pure greed.

Lack of natural resources is a factor for sure. In Japan I heard that even Salmon Roe can be made synthetically and is used to cut real Salmon Roe. Between Fukishima and Whatever pollution is in the water already I feel sorry for the Japanese. No more sushi for me

~ LB

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