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Very cool, the 6X should be nice for the 100-200 yard shots.
I tested 20/20 at the eye dr. but with my floaters and just getting older I swear I used to be able to hold on the center of the center a lot easier.

What size is your objective? You should get some light gain at 1X - 3x , I know 7 x 35 is unity so if your objective is 25mm you should theoretically gain brightness at 4X and under.

I find my illuminated reticle scopes help some at dusk, but drown things out at dark, in daylight they can help you pick up the target but mostly I see some benefit at dusk when the crosshairs bleach out.

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Very cool, the 6X should be nice for the 100-200 yard shots.
I tested 20/20 at the eye dr. but with my floaters and just getting older I swear I used to be able to hold on the center of the center a lot easier.

What size is your objective? You should get some light gain at 1X - 3x , I know 7 x 35 is unity so if your objective is 25mm you should theoretically gain brightness at 4X and under.

I find my illuminated reticle scopes help some at dusk, but drown things out at dark, in daylight they can help you pick up the target but mostly I see some benefit at dusk when the crosshairs bleach out.

Enjoy and keep supporting the sport shooting industry, there's some cool stuff coming.

I agree about the illumination. I rarely use it unless its dawn or dusk. The etched glass is much more crisp in quality optics. I just zeroed in my Blackout today. Here's my groups at 100 yards. I LOVE this rifle. The upgraded trigger is crisp and like silk. The eye relief even at 6X is very good. I too need to go see the eye doctor. My eyes are not what they used to be. I find it harder these days to focus on the recticle. 23 years of tattooing has taken its toll on the ole peepers.



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RC, I get this diagonal pattern pretty consistently. Any thoughts as to why? Breath work or trigger pull I figure.
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I think this 1911 is just beautiful. And it really fits the "Right to bear" amendment, so I'm just gonna drop this right here. Hope y'all likey!

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@ red cowboy. That hog video was crazy. Situations like that reassures you having a higher caliber is the CORRECT choice.

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@ Olympus Mons, Looks like fun, were you bench rested ? Was that rapid fire?
Keep practicing and try different ammo, I don't have a 300 blackout yet but I can see where it could be good in a pistol length where it won't lose too much velocity or if you wanted to go heavy and use a quiet can, I had a kel-Tec PLR in 223 but it was a very noisy flame thrower and not all that accurate, besides you want to keep 223 above 2400 and going from 16 inch to 7.5 you go from 3100 to 1900 and that's a lot to lose. What's your twist rate and what ammo were you using? I think a lot of people go too heavy in 300, I would want to match 7.62x39 as much as possible, maybe 110gr at 2200fps in a rifle, I have seen those loads listed for sale in 300 but again, I don't know the 300 twist rates.


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I have looked at the Akdal 1919 as well as that Chinese catamount fury and Tri-Star but they look sketchy, the Molot Vepr's are good but twice the price and there is a 2000 dollar fostech origin 12 that has tested well but this DDI is built on a solid design, uses existing mags and is priced 599, I want to get one, anyone know any reason why not or of anything better?
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I like this short version of a XTR-12




Otherwise I vote for this $850 VEPR-12


Having smithed (torn gas blocks off, drilled gas ports, ground grams of metal from bolt and chamber to reshape them) many a Siaga and Vepr I can say that likely any of the various (AK type) 12ga can be made to run 100%.

I assume for the same effort most of the other 12ga can be made to run 100% as well but other than the 1919 that is just a rehash of the 1187 operating system (and basically only so workable) I haven't "smithed" the others.
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That looks very cool, that's a SBS isn't it?

Are the UTAS XTR's direct impingement driven?

Can you get larger than the 7 round box?

I like the 20 round drums I can get for the saiga/DDI and likely the MOLOT VEPR, also the adjustable gas piston is a robust design, I would only run double/triple ought buck and slugs keeping the gas adjusted for the heavy loads


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Looking at it some more I really want the last round bolt hold open, I think I will have to go with something else, even though the DDI is a gas piston driven gun it lacks the last round bolt hold open and it won't load on a closed chamber, it's just a mag follower notch to operate the hold open that's missing, I could likely modify one, but there's a lot of good stuff coming.
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@RC- My barrel twist rate is 1/7 and ammo is 147 grain. I agree and for hunting use 110 grain but bulk affordable ammo seems to usually be 147 grain.

Those targets were bench rest and not rapid fire. I really love the trigger I bought from Stoner. Cant beat the crisp break it has for just $60. I didn't want to go too high end for this rifle as Im saving the funds for when my SBR stamp arrives. That ar-15 Im going to do up pretty high end. I bought the lower from Radical Firearms and the upper and 8" barrel are BCM.

I'm going to to buy the trigger group and front handguard from Black Rain Ordnance. My check was just cashed from the ATF for my silencer for this SBR. I plan on making the suppressor integral with just a couple inches of the can sticking out from the hand guard like the last rifle in the pic below. I really like that look and I shoot free standing with my front arm pretty extended so wouldn't be able to do that with an 8" handguard.

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That's a nice looking rig.
I would love to push for the repeal of all the GCA's and NFA's and truly restore the law " Shall not be infringed! " then maybe new firearms would come with integral silencers or as an option, although I would never want to be limited to sub sonic ammo.

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It is amazing how quiet some of those are, here's a video I saw recently.
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@RC- Nice video. It truly is amazing. I don't really plan on using subsonic ammo that often. Even with super sonic ammo today's suppressors make them ear safe for no hearing protection as well as give the feral hog hunter a massive advantage. You can herd the sounder with the impact of the rounds. They can't hear the report of the "smack". I have NV plans for doing pig hunting but thats really expensive and will have to be a long term goal. Id prefer to go thermal scope, PVS-14 monocular for moving around and spotting, and IR D-bal or PEC-15 IR laser.


Another reason I chose and love 300 BLK. No need to do anything to your bolt or gas block to run suppressed. So that's why I'll build my sbr integral. I doubt Ill ever have a reason to not use it un-suppressed.

I'm new to cans. You have some yes Cowboy?

And I fully agree and hope our 2nd amendment is fully restored. I really hope Trump gets SBR's and cans OFF the NFA. ITs a stupid ruling. Does nothing. People think silencers are simply an assassin's tool. They watch too many James Bond movies in which the gun goes "pew pew" and sounds like a laser. Suppressed hunting is growing faster than than the sport of hunting itself. It just makes sense.

edited to add- My CCW just came. Its been a 5 month wait. I've never gotten my permit in the past and when Hillary was in the running I decided to get everything I can. Can's SBR's and CCW's. I don't yet have a concealable handgun. I'm thinking about the Walther CCP to carry. I sold my Glock 23. Personally I have zero love for the .40 cal. Im replacing it with the G19.
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No, I don't own any silencers.

I already resent having to fill out purchase paperwork and renew my carry permit, but I do and I obey all the rules, but I also support repealing these infringing acts that don't solve any problems.

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My hands are pretty small so the 40 cal G23 was too jumpy. 2-3 shot groups we difficult to keep tight for me. I bought the 23 when I worked at the Gun shop in the early 90's when LEO was moving away from the 10mm to .40 cal for the same reasons. Only they then found themselves in the same boat with the .40 so went back to the 9mm. What did that whole u-turn cost the tax payers? lol. It was all in response to the FBI killings in which the agents were out powered. In response to the tragic deaths of 2 of the 3 federal agents they felt 9mm did not have enough dropping power even though the perps we're all fatally hit they did not go down right away and were able to continue the fight resulting in the murder of the agents. Fast fwd a decade and the stats and studies showed the .40's extra oomf wasn't worth the trade off for accuracy. The .40 also didn't do what it was expected to do as far as knock down power much more effectively than the 9mm. So back they all came. I'd guess this is not new information for you RC but maybe others may find it interesting.

Also since my other SBR is the Sig MPX I can buy bulk 9mm ammo to use in both guns and 9mm is cheaper and more available in 1000 round bundles.

I have read up some on the blowback from gasses with the suppressor's I bought. So far all the videos I have watched on this hasn't been an issue with the AR platform in 300BLK. I am considering buying a BCG that has an adjustment for suppressed .223 to improve cycling so I can sue the can and bolt if I build a .223 upper. Its not an issue with the 300 blk but cycling is not as smooth with .223 which I find strange considering its more or less the same casing. I would assume that the size of the actual bullet changes things. But by changing out the BCG to an adjustable one would mean in theory I can use the same buffer spring. Its much easier to fiddle with the bolt than the buffer.

Have you posted any pics of some of your collection on here? Also what is your choice of concealed carry handguns you prefer? Although I haven't ever carried in public the pawn/gun shop I worked at was in a pretty rough part of the city so we were all required to carry at work as well as given a vest to wear if we wanted to which we all did especially after an armed robbery attempt. Hard to believe anyone would be stupid enough to consider holding up a gun shop but criminals aren;t always known for the high IQ's. Luckily not a shot was fired and we we're able to change their minds pretty fast with the help of a Street Sweeper and full auto mac 11.

They assumed we didn't speak spanish but our check cashing cashier at the loan counter spoke fluent spanish and over heard them discussing that they knew we had body armor on so to aim for the head. She quickly but calmly walked over to our side of the shop and told us what was about to go down and we got out the heavy arms from under the counters and stood our ground. They chose wisely that day and happily everyone went home safe and in one piece. We turned over the in store camera footage to the police and turned out these 2 we're suspected of robbing 2 other pawn shops at gun point. They we're 2 bit junkies that had more balls than brains and wouldn't have fared so well had they tried it.
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RC- Nice collection my friend. I really like the feel of the full sized Glocks. Its a hard call to make 17 or 19 for me. But I don't have the funds for both so better to go with something I can carry like the 19.
I agree its best to walk away without incident and TBH carrying isn't very comfortable and a lot of extra caution and pre-thought is needed if one carries a firearm. No stopping for a drink after work, can't enter a bank or federal/ state buildings ext. But as a cash only proprietor who works in a very heavily drug and street people area I do feel the need to be smart about things. In the summer I work till midnight at times and take public transportation. This past summer I stopped a person from trying to break into the building I work in on the second floor. It got me thinking. Had I not left our suite to use the bathroom and did not hear the person trying to pry the doors open on the main floor I would have been in a situation I'd care not to be in. It was late at night and I was alone in the building and had this person enter my suite, I'd have no exit other than the door the person is now blocking my path from. It definitely made me think.

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Every time I buy a NIB firearm lately it comes with a hammer lock key or a slide lock key and I hate those, I also hate trigger disconnects that actuate when the magazine is disengaged, I think the single most important safety is between our ears, also known as a brain, many of these locks have hidden dangers and good reasons why we would be better off without them.

Actually I typically won't buy a firearm that has a magazine removal hammer disconnect freture, even though you can " repair " it, you could possibly set yourself up for a lawsuit if you ever sell it or even if it got stolen and some moron hurt themselves,
but I am stacking up these silly cable locks, anyone have a use for these? Target practice maybe?

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Every time I buy a NIB firearm lately it comes with a hammer lock key or a slide lock key and I hate those, I also hate trigger disconnects that actuate when the magazine is disengaged, I think the single most important safety is between our ears, also known as a brain, many of these locks have hidden dangers and good reasons why we would be better off without them.

Actually I typically won't buy a firearm that has a magazine removal hammer disconnect freture, even though you can " repair " it, you could possibly set yourself up for a lawsuit if you ever sell it or even if it got stolen and some moron hurt themselves,
but I am stacking up these silly cable locks, anyone have a use for these? Target practice maybe?

Actually in some countries those are the law to have, especially during gun shows. Also trigger locks must be used as well for storage as well.
Personally I think it's overkill... I don't use a lock on my Vz58. or my M&P 9mm or my colt 1911 at home ( they're locked into a vault.) I just make sure that when I go to the range the lock goes on incase I am ever asked what I am packing.
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