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Default did anyone have any weird ideas as kids?

i started thinking about this because of a thread that someone made about how we "view" the 405nm color

in my opinion, its too difficult to describe because you cant see it with my eyes and we dont know how they differ.

then i remembered that as a little kid i used to think that ( this sounds super crazy by the way) that the reason why people had different favorite colors was actually them seeing the same color as everyone else, and naming it differently because thats the color that people pointed at and named. like if your favorite color was green, but mine was blue, we actually "saw" exactly the same thing. like your green was my blue and my blue was your green. and thats why you chose green as your favorite and me blue as my favorite


another thought was what if the whole world froze for a thousand years and then started moving again, we would feel absolutely nothing. i know it sounds crazy, but as a kid i had no knowledge of anything and everything was left to speculation.

then i would tell people my ideas and they just gave me a weird look and asked me why on earth would i even think that.

it wasnt until later, like into highschool that the people that i shared hobbies and "wants/likes" with, (such as interest in gyroscopes or like when i went crazy when i first saw a Fresnel lens because i was amazed at the fact that it could magnify while only being two mm thick) that some had thought the same weird ideas, or similar when they were kids.

Just curious i guess if any of you would start babbering about something to someone only to realize (by their confused gaze at you) that they are not on the same page as you are lol


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There's been some research exemplifying that people likely see different color temperatures (aside from color blindness) - but perceptual tests have pretty much shown that the "What if your blue is my green" concept is likely not the case.

I'll look for the research on it, it was a while ago that I saw it (pre ubiquitous Internet) but, while perception does vary, if it varied that much, it'd likely result in a handicap of sorts, like colorblindness does.
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i know that my thoughts as a kid were crazy, but i have also heard on studies where several test subjects (people) would stick their heads in a dark box and monochromatic light was shined in there. the results if i remember correctly, were that generally, people who would see further into the uv would see less of the red or ir and vice versa, meaning that if they saw more red then they would see less of the purple. as if their vision shifted towards one side or the other.
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Yes, that's what I mean by color temperature. A 'bias' towards cool or warm, (red or blue), but not incredible differences that would actually cause someone's colors to be swapped. Sometimes people even have quite marked color temperature differences in pereception from one eye to the other.
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the results if i remember correctly, were that generally, people who would see further into the uv would see less of the red or ir and vice versa, meaning that if they saw more red then they would see less of the purple. as if their vision shifted towards one side or the other.
im a prime example of that, i can see IR great (sometimes wondering why others couldn't see it at all) but uv and blue colours appear dull to me
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im a prime example of that, i can see IR great (sometimes wondering why others couldn't see it at all) but uv and blue colours appear dull to me
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i just had a weird idea. (dunno if im still a kid lol)
water is made of polar molecules. what if you had a potential across an umbrella. the molecules would rotate to allign with the potential. then if you suddenly reversed the potential, they would all be repelled off it. what if you had a pulsed potential change at say, 50Hz on an umbrella, with 3 quaters of the time a negative potential (meaning the hydrogen atoms will have lined up before repelled by the positive potential, might work better since a wider base for the repulsion)
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i just had a weird idea. (dunno if im still a kid lol)
water is made of polar molecules. what if you had a potential across an umbrella. the molecules would rotate to allign with the potential. then if you suddenly reversed the potential, they would all be repelled off it. what if you had a pulsed potential change at say, 50Hz on an umbrella, with 3 quaters of the time a negative potential (meaning the hydrogen atoms will have lined up before repelled by the positive potential, might work better since a wider base for the repulsion)
Only one way to find out - 50hz mains, and a sheet of tinfoil, combined with a sprinkler?

You test first...

I don't know the physics well enough, but wouldn't the water just re-align itself as the field changes? Or wouldn't the repulsive forces be too weak until the distance is tiny, and the water touches the surface anyway?

(Disclaimer to anyone who didn't notice the joke: Don't try that in real life, tin foil, water and mains electricity do NOT go well together.)
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Only one way to find out - 50hz mains, and a sheet of tinfoil, combined with a sprinkler?

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I don't know the physics well enough, but wouldn't the water just re-align itself as the field changes? Or wouldn't the repulsive forces be too weak until the distance is tiny, and the water touches the surface anyway?

(Disclaimer to anyone who didn't notice the joke: Don't try that in real life, tin foil, water and mains electricity do NOT go well together.)
well, for a gentle or long lasting potential change, that'd be the case. i'd imagine things will be different for a very short but strong pulse of positive potential. a bit like hitting something away compared to pushing. hence why the alignment period would be longer than the repulsion period.
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I have no Idea what you're talking about. I still have weird thoughts like this. For example the day before I graduated from high school I woke up with a thought that wouldn't go away (which frequently happens). What I thought that day was that "females were more likely to be caught in boobie traps" . Just last night I had dreamt of a purple cat.
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Yeah.... I used to have heepz of ideas as a kid. One that I remember was, that I thought it was possible to zoom in with your eyes, but I just couldn't figure out how

I tried to ask people how to do it, but they would just look at me like I was a freak.... I didn't know any better...
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I tried to ask people how to do it, but they would just look at me like I was a freak.... I didn't know any better...
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I used to think these were buffalo cocoons.

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Not sure if this counts, but I used to think "pay per view " was just watching paper... lol.
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I tried to ask people how to do it, but they would just look at me like I was a freak.... I didn't know any better...
You can do this in dreams and with psychic perception methods but in all actuality your eyes auto focus meaning that you DO in fact zoom in when you look at something far away.

Btw the paper view idea is quite funny .

About the umbrella idea water is attracted by a static charge (HV makes water dance) . Your idea might work better if you used an alternating magnetic field because water is diamagnetic (repels magnetism). The side effect is that a magnet that strong would certainly be far too large to carry around and it would mess with the earth's magnetic field as well as attracting metal objects from 100+ feet away.
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Default Re: did anyone have any weird ideas as kids?

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Originally Posted by psi seeker 34 View Post
You can do this in dreams and with psychic perception methods but in all actuality your eyes auto focus meaning that you DO in fact zoom in when you look at something far away.

Btw the paper view idea is quite funny .

About the umbrella idea water is attracted by a static charge (HV makes water dance) . Your idea might work better if you used an alternating magnetic field because water is diamagnetic (repels magnetism). The side effect is that a magnet that strong would certainly be far too large to carry around and it would mess with the earth's magnetic field as well as attracting metal objects from 100+ feet away.
the reason a static charge attracts water is because of the allignment idea. this doesnt rule out a sudden reversal of polarity repelling the water. and I dont know what you mean about messing with the earths magnetic field. if you mean, simply affect it in some way then all magnets do. I dont think it'd actually change any molten iron currents causing the field to occur. I suppose a very strong magnet may cause a localised disruption of the earths magnetic field in the upper atmosphere, which could let radiation in from the sun in some circumstances. but with a magnet that strong radiation would be the least of your problems.
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