Any one had experience with creatine and protein?

SMIDSY · Jan 20, 2009

Want to build up my muscle mass without adding fat- would like to loose fat if possible.

Does anyone know of a safe product that I can take along with what I normally eat/ drink without gaining any fat? Ideally low fat and calorie. and safe...

anyone know of any good products?

cheers

SMIDSY

rocketparrotlet · Jan 21, 2009

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I know of a good product.

It's called exercise.

Wait, before you get mad at me, hear me out- putting artificial chemicals in the body is almost never good. Remember how nobody would have suspected radium to be harmful in 1920? Oops, it actually kills people. Remember how nobody would have suspected asbestos to be harmful in 1960? Oops, it actually kills people. Remember how nobody would have suspected Nalgene bottles to be harmful in 2006...

I would guess it's the same with creatine. Instead of trying to rely on products that claim to boost your body without any possible harm, go with the tried-and-true method. Hard work will give you many rewards.

For pure muscle mass, weightlifting. For toned, refined muscles, swimming. For massive calorie-burning (and definitely the most rewarding in other senses, at least to me) hiking and climbing.

Good luck!

-Mark

digital_blue · Jan 21, 2009

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rocketparrotlet said:
I know of a good product.

It's called exercise.

+1 to exercise

Pumping chemicals into your body to increase muscle mass may help you in the short run but the long term effects are unknown. I don't even recommend those "protein" powders/suppliments/etc. I assume that you're more into bodybuilding than strength training?

L@z3r · Jan 21, 2009

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Yeah creatine is over kill. Drink some Protein powder. You mix it with milk. It does work ~~for me tho~~
As soon as your done working out, you drink one cup of this and your all set.

iewed · Jan 21, 2009

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Protein is fine. I try to eat a high protein low estrogen diet for maximum muscle growth.
Creatine is questionable. It's good in cycles, but if you use it too long then your body will become immune to it and you'll notice no additional results.

Check out this forum, it's based around MMA, but they have seriously good advice when it comes to strength, power, dieting, conditioning, etc.

An interesting workout plan I found.

5x5

styropyro · Jan 21, 2009

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I have some friends on my wrestling team that use creatine with good results, but there is a trick to using it correctly, if used wrong the creatine won't do anything. Obviously creatine is a little controversial, but most people agree that healthy people using creatine shouldn't have any negative side effects. If you want to stay safe go with the protein supplements because they are safer, my friends have had good results with those. Personally I take amino acid supplements before lifting or a wrestling match and I like the results.

rocketparrotlet · Jan 21, 2009

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After an intense workout (crosscountry race or mountaineering trip), I make myself a protein shake. I definitely notice results in my recovery.

But no matter which way you look at it, any of the possible options are pointless without the exercise to make them work.

-Mark

ndrew2505 · Jan 21, 2009

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too much protein gives you gas... ;D

JLSE · Jan 21, 2009

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drew said:
too much protein gives you gas... ;D

And if anyone knows about being full of hot air.....

SMIDSY · Jan 21, 2009

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Thanks for all the replies.

I have been weightlifting for about 3-4 months 3X a week. And once a week the month before that. I do have a 6 pack but really it was slow and hard to get and difficult to maintain.

I want essentially strength and definition over everything else lol ;D

Is creatine really bad? I was going to do a half dose but what you are saying is making me unsure.... :-/

I do eat a lot of protein normally and my diet isnt bad- I just want something for a little extra help....

cheers for any advice- so should I do protein, creatine, neither or both??

and are there any specific products you know are good?

ndrew2505 · Jan 21, 2009

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wannaburn said:
[quote author=drew link=1232492567/0#7 date=1232525533]too much protein gives you gas... ;D

And if anyone knows about being full of hot air.....

[/quote]
;D :-X hey...wait...what... :-/

smidsy protein is a natural substance in eggs, meat, cheeses.... it wont hurt you. creatine im not sure about though. you can put 2 eggs in a glass and drink them but you risk salmonella....

Ace82 · Jan 21, 2009

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I tried creatine before a work out once, and I didn't really feel any "boost", or anything out of the ordinary at first, until about 30min later I broke out in cold sweats and had a real stomach problem for an hour or so. Needless to say, I never tried it again. But that could just be my individual body, I've also smoked marijuana before, and that gets me hyper. Sugar and caffeine does nothing. I've also tired crystal meth once, and that made me want to go to sleep. It's probably due to my A.D.D. ;D

I used to work out about 1 hour a day and I would drink protein drinks, that really makes your muscles defined quick, and will have the ladies drooling over you, but you can't wipe your own ass or hang from the monkey bars, and it deflates just as fast as it comes once you stop taking it, even if you continue to work out. I say exercise is great, working out is good, good diet is awesome, and to keep your natural tone is how you should stay. Do you really need to lift your truck 10' into the sky to show the world you're big and tough, when you really decide to take it off road it breaks on the first ditch? I say, don't portray an image that's not true, and if nobody sees you for your true self then it's their loss.

lasersbee · Jan 21, 2009

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Coffee puts me to sleep...

maxkillz · Jan 21, 2009

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Nothings better than good old hard work ;D you don't really need weights when you can lift yourself

. pull ups, push ups, walking on your hands, and martial arts does wonders :

Muay thai, Karate, and Tae Kwon Do

walking on your hands works out your stomach muscles and back and arms and shoulders all at once, and keeps you flexable

ska8r411 · Jan 21, 2009

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Ace82 said:
I tried creatine before a work out once, and I didn't really feel any "boost", or anything out of the ordinary at first, until about 30min later I broke out in cold sweats and had a real stomach problem for an hour or so. Needless to say, I never tried it again. But that could just be my individual body, I've also smoked marijuana before, and that gets me hyper. Sugar and caffeine does nothing. I've also tired crystal meth once, and that made me want to go to sleep. It's probably due to my A.D.D. ;D

I used to work out about 1 hour a day and I would drink protein drinks, that really makes your muscles defined quick, and will have the ladies drooling over you, but you can't wipe your own ass or hang from the monkey bars, and it deflates just as fast as it comes once you stop taking it, even if you continue to work out. I say exercise is great, working out is good, good diet is awesome, and to keep your natural tone is how you should stay. Do you really need to lift your truck 10' into the sky to show the world you're big and tough, when you really decide to take it off road it breaks on the first ditch? I say, don't portray an image that's not true, and if nobody sees you for your true self then it's their loss.

There is your problem.

You a supposed to drink it AFTER your workout. Taking it before,while your muscles are not active is known to cause cramps along with stomach pain,as in your case.

So next time take it 10 Mins AFTER your workout. That will help you,and within 3 weeks,at least working out or wutev you do,you will notice a change. Trust me.

SMIDSY · Jan 21, 2009

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lasersbee said:
Coffee puts me to sleep...

same with me!

maxkillz said:
Nothings better than good old hard work ;D you don't really need weights when you can lift yourself . pull ups, push ups, walking on your hands, and martial arts does wonders : Muay thai, Karate, and Tae Kwon Do

walking on your hands works out your stomach muscles and back and arms and shoulders all at once, and keeps you flexable

I used to do Ju-Jistu- got to orange belt and was formidable on 'ground work'. Sadly I had to stop with the post op nerve damage I got :-[ I also can lift >15KG greater than my body weight on a pull up.... set of 7-10 on a good day...

maybe time to start again?

so we think that eating more meat, fish and eggs will help and see where that takes me- and possibly protein shakes and to the extreme of creatine only if necessary?

question: does the muscle you build up vanish when you stop taking protein/creatine and does it turn to fat?

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