FEELER CNI 561nm 5mW pointers.

Re: GB CNI rare/special wavelength pointers and other stuff.

Hum....

Which wavelengths did you guys want for PGL-III-M? I would rather send one email to CNI then tons of mini request ya know?

It's up to Micheal which wavelengths he would want to have in this GB since he started it, but I think it would make things easier if we have just a few(i.e 561/589/473/671)

-Alex

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I like the idea of just 4. 473, 561, 589, 593 just the more unusual ones

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GR3EN said:

I like the idea of just 4. 473, 561, 589, 593 just the more unusual ones

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Yes! Well we're on track to the 10 piece 561 discount, so that's good! Even without the discount these are pretty well priced!

Micheal, when did you want to close the GB?

-Alex

Re: GB CNI rare/special wavelength pointers and other stuff.

lets keep in mind that if we do different hosts we probably won't be able to get a quantity discount. i think we should stick to pointers unless everyone agrees on a different host, to keep things easy.

also i have no idea. maybe we should wait a while, just so people don't miss out on it, cause i would hate to see that.

ALSO, I HAVE 4 PEOPLE WHO I KNOW WANT THE 561nm PENS, AND I KNOW MORE ARE INTERESTED SO BE CLEAR THAT YOU WANT ONE SO YOU CAN BE ADDED TO THE LIST

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I argue for pointers as well. (or at least keep hosts consistent with wavelengths ordered). I have also tried contacting CNI in the past about these pointers and was quoted a much higher price. I know CNI isn't so interested in small orders, so I feel we should be as consistent as possible to make putting in an order more smoothly.

BTW I doubt I'll actually keep mine in a pointer, in fact I'll probably hack apart the casing and drop it into a 18650 host. I can only imagine how fast a 561nm pointer would chew through AAA batteries.

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just my 2 cents...

1. I'd recommend a vet with lots of green rep to run this if you're gonna go through with this - that will make the fence sitters more comfortable and make it more popular. I for one wouldn't be sending my money to someone I don't know.

2. keep it to <5mW. it'll be both cheaper and easier to work with. both in the sense of power and shipping, as well as keeping customs from being involved.

However I will notate that even though CNI is willing to make 561 pointers in a small volume order, they will likely not run very well. the 1123 line is quite small and temperature sensitive and it likes it pretty fairly cold. in anything but a labby or module that is being actively monitored, it will usually have fairly poor performance unless it is pulsed, so it will likely have to be similar to the 589s and 473s in structure for any sort of stability and/or long term battery life as it doesn't take much to make it overheat. if it was run CW like the 593.5s it would likely behave similarly at 1-2mW like the thin Rigel pointers. beyond a few mW it will get fairly hot fast and consume alot of battery and degrade performance. they'll have to keep a short duty cycle either way.

you might consider asking them which model of GLP they will build it in, the large pulsed one like the 473s, or the narrower CW one. that'll give you an idea of how well it will operate. I for one would recommend building them in PGL-As or Ms. that would allow them to be CW <5mW though still with a shorter duty cycle. and would cool faster due to the higher available heat sinking. plus, with a little work from me, I could pull the modules and enable custom builds as well, as I've gotten quite proficient at disassembling, recovering parts from, and rebuilding CNI lasers safely and without damage.

Happy Lasing! :tinfoil:

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ultimatekaiser said:

just my 2 cents...

1. I'd recommend a vet with lots of green rep to run this if you're gonna go through with this - that will make the fence sitters more comfortable and make it more popular. I for one wouldn't be sending my money to someone I don't know.

2. keep it to <5mW. it'll be both cheaper and easier to work with. both in the sense of power and shipping, as well as keeping customs from being involved.

However I will notate that even though CNI is willing to make 561 pointers in a small volume order, they will likely not run very well. the 1123 line is quite small and temperature sensitive and it likes it pretty fairly cold. in anything but a labby or module that is being actively monitored, it will usually have fairly poor performance unless it is pulsed, so it will likely have to be similar to the 589s and 473s in structure for any sort of stability and/or long term battery life as it doesn't take much to make it overheat. if it was run CW like the 593.5s it would likely behave similarly at 1-2mW like the thin Rigel pointers. beyond a few mW it will get fairly hot fast and consume alot of battery and degrade performance. they'll have to keep a short duty cycle either way.

you might consider asking them which model of GLP they will build it in, the large pulsed one like the 473s, or the narrower CW one. that'll give you an idea of how well it will operate. I for one would recommend building them in PGL-As or Ms. that would allow them to be CW <5mW though still with a shorter duty cycle. and would cool faster due to the higher available heat sinking. plus, with a little work from me, I could pull the modules and enable custom builds as well, as I've gotten quite proficient at disassembling, recovering parts from, and rebuilding CNI lasers safely and without damage.

Happy Lasing! :tinfoil:

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le hap is going to be doing most of the stuff, im just organizing , but i understand completely your concern: i wouldnt give me money either XD

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^Thanks for chiming in kaiser!

I can definitely ask CNI if these units will be CW or pulsed if anyone would like, although I would expect pulsed since it would help keep the unit cooler.

-Alex

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Its usually best to know for sure.

I also can offer my services on this if you guys would like. I can give all the lasers a full test upon receipt regarding power, stability, beam profile, wavelength, and all that stuff if you guys are interested, all with lab grade equipment.

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Can we also find out what the run time on these would be expected to be. I'd assume 30 seconds or less. I just want it to be clear. Also ultimate do you have experience tearing down the GLP models? I know pens aren't exactly builder friendly to begin with but I may be curious on extracting it for another host as well. If not then if a PGL host would only add $30 or so it may be worth it. Regardless I got the money set aside for this and I'm excited.

Re: GB CNI rare/special wavelength pointers and other stuff.

it will likely be 30sec/15sec. minimum. As for teardown of GLPs...many I know how to, but those modules are not very good for building with. and the hosts are brazed onto the module, so its not really the best solution. where as with the larger ones, the module is just dropped in and held down by a retaining brass ring, so its much easier to work with. and the larger mass makes it more stable to boot. the pointers/pens are not really worth taking apart, and far easier to break in the process.

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edited OP for info on getting into the list.

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Wow, nevermind. The 561 GLP's are CW

-Alex

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Atomicrox said:

Cool, thanks. I had in mind these:

UV
355
360
375

violet-blue
415
435

cyan
480
488
491
500

orange
604
607

But better let them give a list than ask for each one of these

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UV will be ungodly and expensive.415 wont really be distinguishable from normal 405, 435 will look more violet than 445 by a noticable amount. 480-500 will also be stupid expensive, and 604-607-612 wont happen (we have asked before). Sorry to burst your bubble

@everyone else- I believe I said this last GB, but K.I.S.S.-- keep it simple, stupid! Better results will be had sticking to one or two popular wavelengths and getting as many as possible. The hobby just isn't big enough to get one or two of everything.

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crazyspaz said:

UV will be ungodly and expensive.415 wont really be distinguishable from normal 405, 435 will look more violet than 445 by a noticable amount. 480-500 will also be stupid expensive, and 604-607-612 wont happen (we have asked before). Sorry to burst your bubble

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crazyspaz, did you see the quote for the bare host?

Edit: I think keeping it to simply 561 would make it much simpler.

-Alex

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GUYS, PGL-H CEN BE SHIPPED TO THE US OVER 5mW!!! (PGL-H is the portable laser module) so we can make portable lasers over 5mW at the 589 wavelength! i was just asking becuase i had asked for a quote for lasers that i was interested in. i asked for a quote for a 50mW 589nm PGL-H.

EDIT: 600$ for a 50mW PGL-H portable laser module... not exactly a bargain but ill see waht i can do with the price.