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EDIT: Another question, is the key-switch removable in the on position? It looks like it is but I just want to double check.
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EDIT: Another question, is the key-switch removable in the on position? It looks like it is but I just want to double check.
I will change your note. I dont know if it costs extra money. Untill now only a few requested that and it was free. But i guess if more people want extra tailcaps and switches kevin will want to see money for it. I am typing a mail now requesting more info about this and the 520 diode.

Until then i will just change the note also yes the key can be removed in the on position.

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Hey guys!

Got mail from kevin. The extra plugs and tailcaps remain free as long as we do not order them in absurd quantities

Also here is the info kevin gave me on the 520 1W

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Yeah might be willing to join in on that as long as mine is 520 or lower then I'd be cool with that.
Awesome, thanks for the interest! How's 12.5% of the laser's GB cost, for each laser pooled in, + I pay shipping from the analyzer? So each person that pools in a laser will get 12.5% off (I'm hunting down those WL freaks), and free spectro/power measurements (again, I'll cover the re-shipping). Also, if I raise my offer, e.g. 14%, those that accepted my original offer of 12.5% will be upgraded to 15%. This should incentivize quicker interest. Hopefully I'm making sense and not over-convoluting this.

I'm concerned, however, that the "515nm" 30mW and "520nm" 50mW are actually arbitrarily labeled. If they all use diodes from similar batches, and none are getting a spectro, is it false advertising? If the 515s are no likelier to be a low wavelength than the 520s, I'd [obviously] rather go for greater power and a low wavelength (520nm 50mW)!

Also, may I take two extra non-keyed tailcaps, two extra remote pins, and an extra key, please? Thank you.

Oh and I'm considering an HL-532 300mW, maybe a 150mW 532 pen as well.
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Awesome, thanks for the interest! How's 12.5% of the laser's GB cost, for each laser pooled in, + I pay shipping from the analyzer? So each person that pools in a laser will get 12.5% off (I'm hunting down those WL freaks), and free spectro/power measurements (again, I'll cover the re-shipping). Also, if I raise my offer, e.g. 14%, those that accepted my original offer of 12.5% will be upgraded to 15%. This should incentivize quicker interest. Hopefully I'm making sense and not over-convoluting this.

I'm concerned, however, that the "515nm" 30mW and "520nm" 50mW are actually arbitrarily labeled. If they all use diodes from similar batches, and none are getting a spectro, is it false advertising? If the 515s are no likelier to be a low wavelength than the 520s, I'd [obviously] rather go for greater power and a low wavelength (520nm 50mW)!

Also, may I take two extra non-keyed tailcaps, two extra remote pins, and an extra key, please? Thank you.

Oh and I'm considering an HL-532 300mW, maybe a 150mW 532 pen as well.
Let me see if Im understanding this right. So my HL520 is $73 and you are offering 12.5% off in order to spectro it and take the lowest WL of the pool interested. That'd be $63.88 cost for me. Then since they'd all be shipping to you Id assume id just be paying the added cost per my laser to your order, which is $9. This means that for $72.88 Id get my laser since shipping to me is also covered by you?

Is this correct? If so Id be interested but my original statement of I want my laser at 520nm stands

Please correct anything Im missing Cmak and thanks for the offer. PM me if there are any details we need to hash out
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Must resist urge to buy all the lasers... Put me down for the following:

HL520 - 50mW $73
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Total $340

Round 1 and 2 were great, but I missed round 3 by a couple days, so I'm glad to get in on round 4! Thanks!
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Oh and I'm considering an HL-532 300mW, maybe a 150mW 532 pen as well.
Sure i will change your order. You allready get two keys with each laser. also if you are doing this wavelength hunt. And you order all lasers under your account. Warrantee and labels are also on your name. Meaning that if you order the laser and it is ok and send it to another member and the laser breaks. You would actually have to arrange the replacements for that member. I dont know just tossing up what you might walk into. A lot of things change when doing it this way.

No offense to this idea but anyone entering this is doing it on his own risk. this is something outside the GB but you may discuss it here nonetheless.

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Copy that so no false advertising. Although i think that laserbtb may be more accurate with their naming of their lasers in terms of wavelength names.

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Copy that so no false advertising. Although i think that laserbtb may be more accurate with their naming of their lasers in terms of wavelength names.
Do you figure they do some sort of wavelength binning?
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Not trying to ruin the idea but it is things to think about.

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Do you figure they do some sort of wavelength binning?
No not like that. I mean for example with the HL460. The actual diode is a 450nm diode. So it seems like another wavelength whilst it is just the name that should indicate the right wavelength. On almost all models this name is correct but with this one it is sloppy.

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On the Skylasers site it has the following description for the direct diode greens:

HL515- 30 520nm (Wavelength) 30-35mW single mode
HL520- 50 520nm (Wavelength) 50-55mW single mode

So it seems they're both 520nm? Is 515 is just a "model number" to denote the lower power output?

Or is he purposefully cutting some of the current to the driver to coax the diode into emitting a lower wavelength? Can anyone shed some light on this?


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Hey sal,

No, they are actually different diodes with different specs like said above the 520 is only capable of running at higher currents.

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