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Review-New DX200 Green (Baton Style)

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Well I finally received my DX-200mw green on Friday and was able to give it a good test this morning. The news is good & not so much...

As for packaging, it's the same as the DX150 reviewed here elsewhere. Very nice box with foam cutouts for all the bits and a magnetic closure. Protected it well in transit and no problems at Customs. In fact, this is the fastest shipment from DX I have ever received. 5 days from "shipped" on the site to my door. Awesome.

The box also contained a hilariously mis-translated manual which is difficult to understand, even with knowledge of lasers. Newbies will be sorely kerfuddled. The "manual" is marked with the company name "Shenda Photoelectricity Co. . Ltd." (sic), which I assume is the manufacturer. www.shendaguangdian.com is their website.

The unit itself is nicely made of black anodized aluminum and the threads are deep and smooth-turning. The tolerances overall are quite tight and the pig-tail safety lanyard is high quality and easy to orient into it's opening. That being said, the tolerances are a bit too tight around the focusing ring which only moves 1/2 turn before becoming very tight. I will try to remedy this but it has not allowed me to experiment with the focusing ability for fear of breaking it. There is an o-ring behind the ring so I will try a bit of lube on that to free up the movement. The shutter on the front of the unit works well with a satisfying indented click at either open or closed state. Overall the unit looks well made and feels solid with nice attention to the straightness of the label etc.

Now for the meter test:

I installed the supplied battery (an LC 18650 2400mAh cell) backwards at first. (Luckily the unit has reverse polarity protection) It is intended to have the + pole at the end of the unit, although the contacts would lead one to assume otherwise and the manual is unintelligible in this regard. This battery is about 2mm shorter than what I consider to be a "standard" 18650 cell, leading me to believe that it is not a protected cell. My DX TR 18650 2500mAh Trustfire protected cells are too large to allow the end to fully close, however the unit still works fine, with the high-tolerance threads being an asset here.

With the unit and battery fresh out of the box, (apart from 5 min. of use at work, who could resist?) I tested it on my trusty Kenometer and was pleased to see it climb to 205mW+ in about 10 seconds. It hovered above 200 mW for about 10 seconds then began a slow decline to a stable state in the 160-170mW range, which it held for the 2 min. duration of my test. It seems to be heat-sinked nicely as when it does stabilize it does not get too warm or drop power erratically like the DX200mW pen-style does. The beam is thin and nicely visible even in a lit room. I will report on burning & popping abilities when I work around the focusing ring problem, but it should have no problems given it's power.

Subsequent tests have failed to reach over 200mW again though, and my 18650 charger registers the battery as fully charged still. I'll try a long-duration test to deplete the battery more in the hopes that a top-up charge will push it over 200 again. I guess the standard Chinese practice of rating lasers for their maximum achievable mW power and not stable average power is still prevalent. I really should have tested the battery's voltage before the first test as well, perhaps it was overcharged as well. I'm a bit rushed doing this review and it shows!

So to summarize: I have bought a really nicely manufactured green laser with a stable average output of 165mW and a potential peak of 205mW. Considering the lengths I had to go to to get my DX200 pen-style to output 200mW (and which subsequently ruined it) I'm pretty happy to have a greenie that stays stable and doesn't overheat in 20 sec. It's nicely made and portable with a good battery so I'd have to say it's worth the $200, considering what an equivalent RPL or LG costs. The focusing (if it works) will be a bonus as well.
I've got to get back to a house & yard full of chores now, so I'll let y'all know if I find a fix for the focus ring problem and the requirements for getting max power out of this unit when I have a chance to experiment further.

Cheers, CC
 

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Razako

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Is the IR included in that test? These lasers probably don't have an IR filter and a considerable chunk of your reading could be IR.
 

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Indeed, which would be quite unfortunate if true...
 
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If you test it again to see if it is leaking a lot of IR, don't just move the laser back a few feet because the IR coming from some unfiltered lasers is pretty collimated. I hope this thing isn't leaking much IR!
 
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but remember, knimrod's 150mw was only leaking about 10mW of IR...it really wasn't that bad. I would assume it's not too much different with the 200mW.
glad you got your laser!
 
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mikeeey said:
but remember, knimrod's 150mw was only leaking about 10mW of IR...it really wasn't that bad. I would assume it's not too much different with the 200mW.
glad you got your laser!
Did he test the IR leakage with an IR filter or did he just move the laser back a couple of feet? In my unfiltered green laser the IR has a divergence of only 2.4mRad, so if the IR coming from these lasers is like the IR from my unfiltered pointer then moving back the laser a couple of feet won't do much.
 
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Good question, here's a quick answer:

Testing quickly with the only IR filter I have, (extracted from an old webcam) , I get a reduction of about 40mW. Now it's difficult to get the beam through the small aperture and I'm getting a lot of specular reflections so this may not be that accurate. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if it was though. I don't expect Chinese lasers to have IR filters anyway, and since the IR helps burning and my goggles protect my eyes from the IR, I don't much care.

I've also tried the "shine the laser through layers of old film" trick and yes I see IR in my Digicam display, so there's definitely no IR filter in this unit. Did you expect one? :D

Cheers, CC
 

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I would not expect an IR filter on these, and the lack of one isn't a big problem per se. The only thing is that it does seriously mess up power measurements if you do not filter it out or prevent it from entering the thermopile somehow.

So what should the verdict be on this laser for sustained (green) power output? A bit shy of 150 mW?
 
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here is what milos said about his 150mW KD laser:

with external IR filter
148-158mW

This IR is puzzling me as I expected much lower output measuring with external IR filter.
It this unit seem to output only ~10mW of IR ! I tried two different IR filters from DL. Unless DL IR filters don't block IR Smiley I doubt that!
I visually compared my 75-80mW Executive pointer (with iR filter)from WL and this laser, and there is noticable difference in beam visibility. Kaido150 has much brighter beam.

so it looks like there isnt much IR, yay!
 
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Benm said:
I would not expect an IR filter on these, and the lack of one isn't a big problem per se. The only thing is that it does seriously mess up power measurements if you do not filter it out or prevent it from entering the thermopile somehow.

So what should the verdict be on this laser for sustained (green) power output? A bit shy of 150 mW?

With my IR filter in place as best as I can align it, the green-only output is actually stable in the 125mW range. As it's 165mW without the filter I estimated 40mW of IR was skewing my initial readings. However, I do not want to dis a product without knowing if my IR filter (which was taken from an old webcam and is coated both sides) is actually not attenuating the beam overall with it's coatings. Until someone uses an actual IR-specific filter to measure this, I can't in good conscience stand by this result as being in any way scientific.

Sorry fellas, but until I get a proper IR filter I can only guess. (and no, I'm not going to shine a 200mW laser through my goggles... :p)

Cheers, CC
 

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Its hard to say how much green that IR filter takes, i agree with that. You can expect it to be at least 5 mW at this power level, but since its from a webcam this could be a bit more.

Have you done any longer runtime tests? I wonder how much it still puts out after say 10 minutes of ontime. For the pen-style units 2 minutes is a good indication for thermal problems, but i reckon these take a fair bit longer to warm up considering their mass.
 
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Timelord's one of theese was outputting 250mW of green when Ir filtered, you may of recieved a bad unit.
 
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happytomato said:
Timelord's one of theese was outputting 250mW of green when Ir filtered, you may of recieved a bad unit.

Did he write a review for this? I searched for it on this forum but I'm not seeing it. If he did could you please link it for me? Thanks!
 
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No, he didn't, but if you go onto laser enthusiast, look in the deal extreme section, you will find a thread about it. He said he will write full a review soon.
 
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happytomato said:
No, he didn't, but if you go onto laser enthusiast, look in the deal extreme section, you will find a thread about it. He said he will write full a review soon.

How do you even join that site, i've tried multiple times and it won't work, it won't even let me look at posts anymore.
 




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