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How well do the blu-ray laser pocket pals by jayrob work? I need to know.


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How well do the blu-ray laser pocket pals by jayrob work? I need to know.
They work as well as you build them.

Jayrob builds them very, very well

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Thank you Dave.

As Dave said, build quality is the key. The parts used in my Pocket Pal builds, are nothing but the best! Using a FlexDrive driver by DrLava, an 803T blu-ray diode (harvested and cleaned using no heat), and mounted into a custom heatsink and a nice host that uses 3 X AAA batteries.

The 3 X AAA batteries are a large capacity for such a small host! This driver/host combination also gives you the option of using AAA rechargeable batteries!
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Thank you Dave.

As Dave said, build quality is the key. The parts used in my Pocket Pal builds, are nothing but the best! Using a FlexDrive driver by DrLava, an 803T blu-ray diode (harvested and cleaned using no heat), and mounted into a custom heatsink and a nice host that uses 3 X AAA batteries.

The 3 X AAA batteries are a large capacity for such a small host! This driver/host combination also gives you the option of using AAA rechargeable batteries!
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Jay, can heat really be THAT bad and if you do it right would it really heat up so much? I mean don't get me wrong but i think de-soldering is far less risky then using your "snips" (I heatsink them when I'm de-soldering)
to get the pcb off and why couldn't you just use the leads off the pcb instead of taking risks to get something that the manufactures use. I mean maybe I'm wrong but is it possible that the manufacture would know more about these things then we do. : Your builds are far better then mine are I'm just pondering about it.

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I'm sure that if it is done right, it is fine... I believe that most people use the 'blob of solder' method to remove the pcb material. But there is really no way of knowing for sure if you gave it just a little too much heat in this process.

We all know that heat can damage the diode. That does not mean that it WILL get damaged using the de-soldering method. Just that it COULD take some damage.

Have you ever tried to hold the opposite end of a resistor while soldering one end? That wire gets too hot to hold, even 2 inches long! The diode pins are very short. They get very hot when soldering. I'm sure that the manufacture uses very efficient methods for their soldering....

So, I am not implying that people will damage the diode if they use heat and de-solder the pins. And I am sorry if it sounded that way.

All I am saying, is that there is no way that the diode can take any heat damage if the pins were 'clipped' clean...
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i also clip the pins and i believe it is a cleaner better approach.
take your time doing it with some flat sided snips and you will not have a problem.

i honestly think its far superior in every way.


also i will agree jay makes a good laser and i have yet to hear anything bad about his builds.


i personally do not own one but i can also say this pocket pal build is one of my favorites i have made over 5 and they are great in every aspect.
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I use a solder sucker and clean one pin at a time then I use a razor blade to pry the pcb away and sometimes not all the solder gets sucked up because I only hold the iron there for 1 sec at most so the pcb sometimes breaks into pieces but this way the pins are long and the diode is undamaged.
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also i will agree jay makes a good laser and i have yet to hear anything bad about his builds.
Thanks sk8!


whitelaser, I do have a tutorial thread on the Pocket Pal laser if you want to build it yourself!:
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I include the 'thick' o-ring (shown in the tutorial) with the heatsinks...
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Thanks jay.. I think i will buy one of your lasers ;D ;D
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Just let me know!

The Pocket Pal is a good build and I know that you would like it...

Take a look at these Leadlight pointer style lasers too:
http://www.laserpointerforums.com/fo...m=1221375070#4

If the chrome pointer style tickles your fancy, I am making a few of these available. They use the FlexDrive as well. They are the same price as my Pocket Pal.

The one I'm making right now, has a nice 'brass ring' tip:


I made the little brass spacer because this one had the spring and switch just a hair too far back toward the tail cap, and so the batteries were just a little long, not allowing the cap to screw on all the way flush.

I think it looks pretty special with the brass tip! 8-)
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Hey Jay, I'm gonna be making my first blu ray here soon. I never did understand the solder blob technique. how does that even work? where do you add the blob of solder for removing the pcb? what other ways are there to remove it?

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Honestly, I did not do too well when I tried the de-soldering method. But I understand that if you load the tip with solder, it will help in the heat transfer to all of the solder that is on the three pins. If you get it right, you can pry or pull the PCB material off.

There are other ways, I like to use very fine tipped snips to clean the pins without heat. Here's a thread where some others have shared their methods:
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I know i was just wondering because I was using snips and accidentally snipped off a a pin. :'(
I think I will go over to my moms brother Bill's and he can give me some advice. This guys a freak'n genius has solder SMT, chips with over 4000 pins.... you name it he's done it and then some. If anybody knows how to do it its definitely him. ;D

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