China laser show suppliers ???

Hi everybody,

I wanna buy a RGB animation laser show from a manufacter from China, but I am with a doubt who choose. Anyone has some experience, bad or good, with these below ?

staraylaser.com
rekelaser.com
lanlingtech.com
sparklaser.com
kololaser.com
ledlon.com
aptlighting.net
3651light.com

Which ones is the best in your opinion (quality / price) ?
Thanks
Marcel

better help can come if we know both your budget and location-
search Reke here to see many posts, there are also sources you omitted.

GL

hakzaw1 said:

better help can come if we know both your budget and location-
search Reke here to see many posts, there are also sources you omitted.

GL

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Hi Hakzaw1, Im from Brazil and I want a 5W RGB animation laser. I research in ebay and alibaba and discovered that:
- laserworld sells 6W for 15998,00 € (Wow)
- china supplier sells 5W for about 3000 USD

Of course, china products have a lower quality. But analysing cost/benefits there are very higher. So the question is which one has a better:
- product quality: eg. dont broke easly
- realible: if you pay and the product will arrives
- support: for change the product in warranty time, shipp broken parts

Thanks
Marcel

cool-- you need to conact winni at goldenstar-(She is also at Facebook) she has a super deal going on right now on 5W rgb.

there is a thread at the lasershow forum PeeLee.

lowest prices ever...

ps
it would be best for you to add your location in your profile..

good luck..

why not choose us?
Ningbo Lasever Inc is specialized in manufacturing laser modules for laser show.
We accept small orders and T/T payment(paypal is also accepted)

Pls note my email: sales2@lasever.com
Any question, I would like to help

hakzaw1 said:

cool-- you need to conact winni at goldenstar-(She is also at Facebook) she has a super deal going on right now on 5W rgb.

there is a thread at the lasershow forum PeeLee.

lowest prices ever...

ps
it would be best for you to add your location in your profile..

good luck..

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Do you have goldenstar email? in her facebook dont has an option to add or send email to her.
Thanks
Marcel

You should email all the companies and see what they can offer you before choosing. Some will be more accommodating than others.

I will second goldenstar winni. Her price for a 1W green module (just the laser itself) is $535. Cheapest I could find on fleabay is $835 from a reputable seller (meierlight.china). The ebay one is a DHOM (great brand, know for being WAY overspec), yet winni sells the CNI model, which is also a well respected brand.

Winni's website is goldenstarlaser.com - take a look there and you can see the prices of their projectors in USD, plus all the specs. They even include beam diameters and divergence ratios in these specs, something not common with the chijector companies.

remember to read the descriptions, as some of the cheaper deals there may look great, but then further down you find "TTL Modulation" gah yuck. Of course for a few additional bucks you can probably get winni to upgrade the laser heads to analogue, and while you're at it ask for (and pay for) 3d optical mounts to be installed. You're hair will thank you (as you wont be ripping it out trying to adjust fixed mounts if the thing goes out of alignment).

Winni is a great communicator, and takes paypal (you pay the fees) as well as TT transfer. I bought my projector case from her, and plan in the next few weeks to buy some lasers

Oh that is a nice price on those 3D dichro mounts ($25) from Goldenstar. Might be less in direct contact with the seller.

pros-- buying from REKELASER low price - 2 yr warranty(no personal idea how good)

cons.. very expensive shipping ( but fast and very safe)

From Lasersman(cherrylee) higher price but lower shipping- and only one year warranty- so far OK warranty help with problems (inherent with all cheaper Chijectors) LM tends to give out $$ off coupons and let the buyer do repairs-- save a lot of shipping and time.

What to avoid-- if you dont see ILDA move on-- dmx is not all that great compaered to lasershow soft like LSX and QS,
avoid Ishow.
you missed the best deal over the winter hoildays- $209 for ospec 500 RGB ilda Reke-DELIVERED- ( now back up to ~$300)

there may be a GB on these-- PM me if intrested.

hak

QS/ reke500rgb ilda PJs (3)
reke 100mW Green ilda PJ ( all TTL)
working on DIY 2.5W RGB full color

? want QS PM me!!


While analog is better than TTL ( thousands of colors vs 7) -- TTL is good to learn soft on and a lot of fun..

There is nothing wrong with TTL. You are just limited to 7 colours plus white. I don't know why the manufacturers still offer it when analogue is only a few $ more though.

TTL in my first two projectors impressed me, and most of the club lasers around here are also cheaper TTL models. I wont comment on where one of the bigger clubs has theirs aimed, least to say I bet they dont have a pango PASS system on it!

I saw an analogue show at one club. The many different hues won me over so my pj is going to be an analogue unit.

My "main' PJ will be analog-

btw

'There is nothing wrong with TTL. You are just limited to 7 colours plus white. I don't know why the manufacturers still offer it when analogue is only a few $ more though.'

the seven colors includes 'white' not plus white-- but you knew that. Your Tiapan is awesome!!

lol
hk

he still needs some fangs tho - lasers. We'll get there eventually. Need to buy some bits from Dave (LSP) and Stanwax first (basically optics mounts, a dichro and an ILDA Gem board)

edit: oh and a quick show from you - thats next as soon as I have saved the money.

Well, it is a bit easier to just offer TTL especially since you don't need decent modulation abilities on the green laser, nor to actually provide a driver that can do scaled dimming versus just shutting things off for the others. As far as I can tell, the TTL drivers are step-down drivers fixed to set current values, whereas most analog modulation is based on using a MOSFET as a current regulating device--which would actually need to shunt the current for modulating like is done in LED modulation. They'd need to provide different power supplies to do this, with higher current ratings than they use now (they use the same +/- 15VDC drivers and step it down to whatever voltage is needed).

Then assume they did all that, people would need a DAC that does decent analog graphics, those signals would need to be offset and scaled properly with a correction circuit for the drivers (versus using TTL and its digital voltage thresholds), analog "auto" graphics would need to be provided (otherwise who would even know it's analog without owning an ILDA-based DAC?), and tune all the colors for modulation inconsistencies, etc. (which vary in intensity already as a function of scan speed of certain patterns). All of this would be for some crappy $300 projector that will probably be bought by some goon for his party rather than a real enthusiast. If people really want that, they can buy the higher end models Reke sells.

Some sellers list their projectors with 7 colour inbuilt shows, many more shades can be generated by connecting the projector to a computer. (when referring to their analog models).

Analog models will still work as effectivly with a TTL signal as a TTL only model will. The tricky part comes when an ilda cable is plugged in. The better models sense the connection of the dac, and switch off the inbuilt show, as well as routing the modulation input to bypass the show card, so the card doesnt turn the analog singal into a TTL one. They also power down the lasers until the interlock chain is complete.

The cheaper ones you have to push a switch, and that switches the unit into ILDA mode, and turns off the showcard at the same time. When you want the inbuilt show again, you need to press another switch, which powers the show card back on, etc. The better of the cheapie dont power the lasers in this mode until the interlock chain is complete.

The really cheap and nasty ones can beam when this switching is done because they dont rely on the interlock signal, so if there is no ILDA cable present (or even one present with no dac) when they are switched, the modulation lines are now floating, and the lasers are still live.

Thanks BB and V2K for those two posts-- but can you tell me if all that is going to be on the test??...lol.....j/k-- I got most of it,,,,, two good posts-- l saw a eekbay labby listing that said anlog AND TTL too..
AFAIK there is no analog that is NOT also TTL-- duh!