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Dammit, Bshcott - can't believe I missed stating such a simple, obvious fact. +1 for paying attention, Amigo!
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@brew~: obvious, but the question was "what's the best greenie I can get at 200$" ofc optotronics is kind of money waste since Susie's modules are almost the same at half price, but hey, that's his choose xD
Anyways, maybe he want assambled units...
@bschoot: also obvious, specially with green lasers go and get glasses, at 170mW it will burn your eyes just looking at the wall xD
Anyways, maybe he want assambled units...
@bschoot: also obvious, specially with green lasers go and get glasses, at 170mW it will burn your eyes just looking at the wall xD
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OKay, NOW I see where we got off the same page, H - Mia Culpa for not explaining myself...I wasn't referring to Susies modules, but her ready-to-roll "New-Wish" style pointers (the exact ones Opto sells) - this one in particular:
http://www.o-like.com/b2b_cpinfo.asp?id=930
I couldn't figure out why it was starting to look like we were arguing the same point, but in opposite directions - sorry about that, Amigo!
http://www.o-like.com/b2b_cpinfo.asp?id=930
I couldn't figure out why it was starting to look like we were arguing the same point, but in opposite directions - sorry about that, Amigo!
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Ah lol! Being honest, this seems to me likethe same pointer sold on DX for 60$. Combined with the IR the DX unit is for sure over 120mW, and this one from o-like... xD
I'm still with the 150mW+ on optotronics xD
I'm still with the 150mW+ on optotronics xD
Well while I agree that it would be obvious to those of us newbies that take time to research the stickies, lurk the posts, and basically take our time and learn what we are getting into before even purchasing our first laser, there are some (like the OP...original poster) who just want that 'cool toy' and are not thinking of their eyes.
They simply see these as laser pointers that can do cooler things than that simple 5mW pointer, but don't understand the inherent risks that come with using a higher power laser. It is in the mind that they were using this 5mW pointer without glasses so when they get a 100mW green burner, well it's a green laser pointer to them...with just the cool feature of being able to burn things. They don't think of the fact that these are much more dangerous than the 5mW pointers are.
Heck, that was MY mindset before I started researching. When I learned looks can be decieving and a Labby 100mW will damage your eyes just as readily as a 100mW hand-held pointer-style, well then I sat up and paid attention to IR filters and goggles.
I'm really just saying that a lot of newbies that would come here looking for their first burning lasers are normally not thinking that they could damage their eyes by using these lasers. It is common sense to those who are hobbiests and enthusiests, however to the common layperson, it isn't obvious.
I personally think, and this is just me, that as hobbiests/enthusiests, when a newbie comes to the board asking what to buy for a burning laser (especially one that sounds like they just want to play with a burner and are not interested in lasers in general...they see the burner as a toy) one thing we should do (and again, I'm new so please don't take this as me stepping on toes, I don't mean to come off that way!) in my opinion is be responsible and mention that 'yes, you can get ABC laser for $xxx price, however you will need eye protection for it and here is what you need (link) for that laser's wavelength' or something to that effect.
We hear about more and more people hurting themselves or others, misusing their pointers and burners, and generally giving lasers a bad rap. As people who love and enjoy our hobby, shouldn't it be up to us to make sure that if a newbie is going to ask us about a recommendation for a high-power laser, that we should impress on them that they seriously could hurt themselves or others very easily and these are not toys.
I'm afraid that, IMHO, if we as hobbiests do not take responsibilty to warn new laser owners like this about the possible dangers associated with useing these lasers, then we are being negligent and contributing to the problem...which one day may turn around and bite us in the behinds in the form of strict laws and legislation. Please do not think I am coming down on anyone that posted in this thread, I'm not! I am just expressing my opinion on why I mentioned the safety aspect. Other hobbiests can do as they wish. I personally believe that if we can impress on someone that using these high-powered pointers as pet toys (how often do you see youtube vidoes where the person playing with the laser and laughing at their pet chasing the laser hits a reflective object with the beam...imaging a 120mW beaming back into their eyes from a polished metel chair or table leg), or using these the same as a low-power pointer (waving it around, beaming things) is not recommended and could really hurt someone.
Just my two cents
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Well while I agree that it would be obvious to those of us newbies that take time to research the stickies, lurk the posts, and basically take our time and learn what we are getting into before even purchasing our first laser, there are some (like the OP...original poster) who just want that 'cool toy' and are not thinking of their eyes.
They simply see these as laser pointers that can do cooler things than that simple 5mW pointer, but don't understand the inherent risks that come with using a higher power laser. It is in the mind that they were using this 5mW pointer without glasses so when they get a 100mW green burner, well it's a green laser pointer to them...with just the cool feature of being able to burn things. They don't think of the fact that these are much more dangerous than the 5mW pointers are.
Heck, that was MY mindset before I started researching. When I learned looks can be decieving and a Labby 100mW will damage your eyes just as readily as a 100mW hand-held pointer-style, well then I sat up and paid attention to IR filters and goggles.
I'm really just saying that a lot of newbies that would come here looking for their first burning lasers are normally not thinking that they could damage their eyes by using these lasers. It is common sense to those who are hobbiests and enthusiests, however to the common layperson, it isn't obvious.
I personally think, and this is just me, that as hobbiests/enthusiests, when a newbie comes to the board asking what to buy for a burning laser (especially one that sounds like they just want to play with a burner and are not interested in lasers in general...they see the burner as a toy) one thing we should do (and again, I'm new so please don't take this as me stepping on toes, I don't mean to come off that way!) in my opinion is be responsible and mention that 'yes, you can get ABC laser for $xxx price, however you will need eye protection for it and here is what you need (link) for that laser's wavelength' or something to that effect.
We hear about more and more people hurting themselves or others, misusing their pointers and burners, and generally giving lasers a bad rap. As people who love and enjoy our hobby, shouldn't it be up to us to make sure that if a newbie is going to ask us about a recommendation for a high-power laser, that we should impress on them that they seriously could hurt themselves or others very easily and these are not toys.
I'm afraid that, IMHO, if we as hobbiests do not take responsibilty to warn new laser owners like this about the possible dangers associated with useing these lasers, then we are being negligent and contributing to the problem...which one day may turn around and bite us in the behinds in the form of strict laws and legislation. Please do not think I am coming down on anyone that posted in this thread, I'm not! I am just expressing my opinion on why I mentioned the safety aspect. Other hobbiests can do as they wish. I personally believe that if we can impress on someone that using these high-powered pointers as pet toys (how often do you see youtube vidoes where the person playing with the laser and laughing at their pet chasing the laser hits a reflective object with the beam...imaging a 120mW beaming back into their eyes from a polished metel chair or table leg), or using these the same as a low-power pointer (waving it around, beaming things) is not recommended and could really hurt someone.
Just my two cents
Couldn't agree more
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i would know if is the same to byu the susie 120+ laser pointer...or the 120+ at optotronics. ? brewcity...sayd that they're the same pointer... but optotronics sells ture green... susie... count in the power also the IR....but i don't know generally how much is in percentage the ir ( 20...40% of total power?). so.... the 120+ susie could be like the true 100 optotronics... ( susie could have 135... but about 20/25 of ir.. so= 110 true.)
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Use your head, Optotronics doesn't advertise as "IR Filtered" (which these cheap-o Chinese pens aren't, or they would definitely use that as a selling point) SO the IR would be included in their measurements too...
"True" is a measure of NOTHING, just a marketing gimmick to suck in the gullible, that has been ascertained here in the threads time and time again.
Jack and Susie both stand behind what they sell, and that in and of itself puts them both in an entirely different league than DX, KD, QCG, BG, whatever. They test the output prior to sale, and the bottom line is either one of their 120's will put out at least 120, and they both will have IR factored in. If Jack is reading this (and I hope you are, Amigo) and wants to vouch that they disassemble their pointers and install IR filters prior to sale well then that's a different story altogether.
I'm done arguing about 15mW's of IR now....
"True" is a measure of NOTHING, just a marketing gimmick to suck in the gullible, that has been ascertained here in the threads time and time again.
Jack and Susie both stand behind what they sell, and that in and of itself puts them both in an entirely different league than DX, KD, QCG, BG, whatever. They test the output prior to sale, and the bottom line is either one of their 120's will put out at least 120, and they both will have IR factored in. If Jack is reading this (and I hope you are, Amigo) and wants to vouch that they disassemble their pointers and install IR filters prior to sale well then that's a different story altogether.
I'm done arguing about 15mW's of IR now....
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i don't undestand. you say that opto....doesn't advertise as "IR Filtered". you are wrong. otpo says that his laser are filthered....and there are residual ir 1/4mw. and ir in optoron....is NOT included in the total power.....i read this in the site.
however...is more probable to get a better diode by olike....buying ONLY the 120+ diode... or is the same thing to buy the laser pointer that cost olny few dollars more? i am thinking to buy a better powered laser pointer instead my good kaleidoscopic. i wuuld opto 150+ but it is 200$....and susie is half price.. and similar proprieties....(but no ir filther... this is the reason why compared to optotron...could be like the opto 100mw... of ONLY green. in the possible 130..140 mw of olike.. could be 30 of IR.. no? ..so.. 110..or 115 of green.... and calculating that the opto 100 could easily be overpowered at 115.(only green)...i think that these 2 laser __could be comparable__..... the fact to don't have a filther... is important .....
however...is more probable to get a better diode by olike....buying ONLY the 120+ diode... or is the same thing to buy the laser pointer that cost olny few dollars more? i am thinking to buy a better powered laser pointer instead my good kaleidoscopic. i wuuld opto 150+ but it is 200$....and susie is half price.. and similar proprieties....(but no ir filther... this is the reason why compared to optotron...could be like the opto 100mw... of ONLY green. in the possible 130..140 mw of olike.. could be 30 of IR.. no? ..so.. 110..or 115 of green.... and calculating that the opto 100 could easily be overpowered at 115.(only green)...i think that these 2 laser __could be comparable__..... the fact to don't have a filther... is important .....
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Definitely go with o-like.com. they are awesome, great prices, great service, and great products
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Here's the "200mW" that I ended up getting that actually peaks at 144mW and can light red matches at a foot, pops ballons, cuts tape etc:
http://www.qualitychinagoods.com/200...v1-p-1246.html
I have this one as well.
Now i doin't have a LPM, but i'd say it's running around 110-120Mw.
I like it alot not just for the Mw's, but because of it's heavy feel and size. Mine came in a nice case (as shown on the web site) and also the warning sticker that i can put on if i want.
http://www.qualitychinagoods.com/200...v1-p-1246.html
I have this one as well.
Now i doin't have a LPM, but i'd say it's running around 110-120Mw.
I like it alot not just for the Mw's, but because of it's heavy feel and size. Mine came in a nice case (as shown on the web site) and also the warning sticker that i can put on if i want.
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If the KD units doesn't get reviewed soon I' gonna buy this, both you and brewictymusic got good units, I hope I get it too
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If the KD units doesn't get reviewed soon I' gonna buy this, both you and brewictymusic got good units, I hope I get it too
This pic is of that laser.
I didnt do a beam shot yet because my son is up and about and this is NOT a laser he need's to see. (he's 12 and a bit careless IMO.. and everyone elece)
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Hold off for a day or two, H - I have 3 more on the way that were shipped EMS on Friday so I should have them early in the week, I'll LPM them and then you can be a bit more secure in the purchase...
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Now that's a deal, if BCM does the test on a LPM.. then you know you'll get a good one.
Hey Dale, you ever worked the pot on the green one?.. just askin.
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That's funny - it looks exactly the same as 50 mW model i got from kaidomain, including that included CR2 being identical.
Circuit board is slightly different though (pot instead of fixed resistors), and there is no way to tell differences in pump diodes or crystal sets from the pictures. I might just buy it though, consistent >100 mW performace for $80ish seems a fair deal.
