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http://i.imgur.com/I13sRra.jpg

Smaller version http://i.imgur.com/pTKNEaa.jpg

Assuming this is a laser, how powerful would it have to be to piece clouds?
Other than a laser, what could it be?

Please do not ask me anything else about this image. Other than this is in a restricted military area and there was a smell of ozone and a strange burning around the area.



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Looks like it might be a sodium laser guide star perhaps, if it is a laser at all the image is pretty grainy, looks like 589nm. The ones I have read about are around 20W. I am sure the pros here will chime in as well.
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I couldn't see the picture very well, it's waaaaaaayyyy too large. Try making it smaller

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Looks like it might be a sodium laser guide star perhaps, if it is a laser at all, looks like 589nm. The ones I have read about are around 20W. I am sure the pros here will chime in as well.
I assumed that it would be a sodium laser as well but the area this was taken in was in complete desert. There's literally nothing there when military contractors are not doing their tests. I'm guessing they have a portable one.

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I couldn't see the picture very well, it's waaaaaaayyyy too large. Try making it smaller

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Looks like it might be a sodium laser guide star perhaps, if it is a laser at all the image is pretty grainy, looks like 589nm. The ones I have read about are around 20W. I am sure the pros here will chime in as well.
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It's not that - the article here lists the output wavelength as 1550nm - well outside of the visible range.

My guess is either a BIG spotlight, a regular light and strange atmospheric phenomenon (See things like that up here frequently), or a sprite maybe? Although - sprites are normally red and at a very high altitude - and never very bright. Perhaps some secret military test? Hard to tell without more information or a better picture.

Could always blame it on HAARP.
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It's not that - the article here lists the output wavelength as 1550nm - well outside of the visible range.

My guess is either a BIG spotlight, a regular light and strange atmospheric phenomenon (See things like that up here frequently), or a sprite maybe? Although - sprites are normally red and at a very high altitude - and never very bright. Perhaps some secret military test? Hard to tell without more information or a better picture.

Could always blame it on HAARP.
I know, but that's at the exact place this picture was taken. And its not an article. Its a military report. Just pointing out they have mobile units going there doing tests.
Can't provide better pictures, all were taken during a very dark night.
Military base with massive land mass, private contractors and restricted air space that goes beyond the atmosphere. I'd rule out natural atmospheric phenomenon. But that's just me.

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I know, but that's at the exact place this picture was taken. And its not an article. Its a military report. Just pointing out they have mobile units going there doing tests.
Can't provide better pictures, all were taken during a very dark night.
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That looks like a large explosion or a rocket launching in the distance - again hard to tell from the pictures, definitely doesn't look like a laser.

LIDAR on site is reasonable (though not for the cause of the lights), if they are doing missile tests or some such. Might want to keep track of how the missile (or payload?) affects cloud patterns or other atmospheric phenomenon.
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Definitely doesn't look like a laser or a search light. Both would produce a much more defined, even beam with clear edges.

No ideas aside from that on what it could be, except maybe exhaust trail of some sort?
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That looks like a large explosion or a rocket launching in the distance - again hard to tell from the pictures, definitely doesn't look like a laser.

LIDAR on site is reasonable (though not for the cause of the lights), if they are doing missile tests or some such. Might want to keep track of how the missile (or payload?) affects cloud patterns or other atmospheric phenomenon.
It was stationary and appeared and disappeared constantly every 5 mins. Looked red-ish in color and the light from the ground was white. That's why I was going more of a portable sodium laser thing. And each time it appeared, there were blue orbs around the light in the sky as seen in the first picture. No sound, nothing. Like I said before, it smelt like static electricity. Didn't smell before or after.

Last image. Low rez as usual due to darkness. This was the only time it looked like a laser, after that the beam got "wider" or as seem in the other images and pointed straight up to the sky.

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It was stationary and appeared and disappeared constantly every 5 mins. Looked red-ish in color and the light from the ground was white. That's why I was going more of a portable sodium laser thing. And each time it appeared, there were blue orbs around the light in the sky as seen in the first picture. No sound, nothing. Like I said before, it smelt like static electricity. Didn't smell before or after.

Last image. Low rez as usual due to darkness. This was the only time it looked like a laser, after that the beam got "wider" or as seem in the other images and pointed straight up to the sky.

http://i.imgur.com/aDVXuR8.jpg
That looks kind of like a laser beam - but it seems too washed out. Sodium lasers are *very* yellow/orange - the same colour as low pressure sodium street lamps.

By it smelled like static electricity, do you mean it smelled like Ozone?
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That looks kind of like a laser beam - but it seems too washed out. Sodium lasers are *very* yellow/orange - the same colour as low pressure sodium street lamps.

By it smelled like static electricity, do you mean it smelled like Ozone?
Yup smelled like Ozone.
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Yup smelled like Ozone.

So that tells us that there was an intense source of UV or some high voltage electricity involved (Be it RF, AC, or DC) - those being the two most common sources of ozone.
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