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Default Re: Pressing the diode is impossible????

You can use antenna-tubes to push the diode out safely. But I'm guessing the diode might be stuck pretty hard by now, so the tube might break in your case.






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Default Re: Pressing the diode is impossible????

I would get a small hand vice like that and persist to push it in. The module isn't messed up most likely. More perpendicular force should do it.
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Default Re: Pressing the diode is impossible????

But don't vices and such go on hand/arm power? Shouldn't it basically work by pushing it in really really hard? If so, I'm not strong enough. Are there alternatives to vices? I don't have any on hand. Isn't there something you can use that most houses have?

There are a lot of things I don't have.. I really need to get more tools but I won't have any money on hand until then.
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Default Re: Pressing the diode is impossible????

I had the same problem with my first diode. Its nearly impossible without either a vice or a c-clamp. Go to your local hard ware store and pick up a metal c-clamp for around $5. Works like a charm and better than a bed or a closet.

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I had the same problem with my first diode. Its nearly impossible without either a vice or a c-clamp. Go to your local hard ware store and pick up a metal c-clamp for around $5. Works like a charm and better than a bed or a closet.

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I'm going to see during this week when I can take myself to the store. I might just aswell buy some other handy tools while I'm there.

During the meantime, so it is totally impossible without a clamp or a vice? If I could put it like on the floor and drop some weight on it, would it work? I have a ruined laptop that I could drop..

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Default Re: Pressing the diode is impossible????

It's not as much about the sudden weight on it but more about constantly pressing weight on it. I don't think the laptop will doing anything. There's also the chance like many stated above that you got a module or diode that were slightly off set.

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I'm going to see during this week when I can take myself to the store. I might just aswell buy some other handy tools while I'm there.

During the meantime, so it is totally impossible without a clamp or a vice? If I could put it like on the floor and drop some weight on it, would it work? I have a ruined laptop that I could drop..

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You can try using a hammer to tap it in.
Don't blame me if you break something, though.

A clamp could work but the twisting motion could move the diode press tool out of alignment and damage the diode pins. You will have to hold it in place if that is the tool you choose. A vice is the best way to go.

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I don't recommend hammering in. The shock will break the glass or the tiny wires inside. It must be done by continuous pressure. I use a selfmade presstool from a motherboard stand-off. and a small vice. The pressure of the vice is really tremendously.



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You can try using a hammer to tap it in.
Don't blame me if you break something, though.

A clamp could work but the twisting motion could move the diode press tool out of alignment and damage the diode pins. You will have to hold it in place if that is the tool you choose. A vice is the best way to go.

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Ive never had any issues with them twisting and Ive probaly place at least a dozen diodes in. On my clamp the head that presses down doesnt sit on the screw in place but sits on a ball attached to the screw so that once pressure it place the head stays where it is.

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Hey guys!

Do you think this will work? I put the press and all in place and I will give it to a friend tomorrow to press it in at his work. I silvertaped around everything except for a little hole to see the press go in. So he is going to press it for me. I put the module in heatsink so it holds even better. Do you think it will work? Pic:



And I will tell him to keep putting pressure until the goldy part goes all the way in (the press). As you can see, there is about 0.5cm left to go in. I covered the heatsink hole to make sure it doesn't get any dust in, he works at a wood shop so there is a lot of dust floating around there, the silver tape will also work as a towel does when people press diodes.

Do you think it will work?

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Also, if you do not have a vice, you can use if you have some strength in hands and skill, a Groove-Joint Pliers (I think is called this way)

I think it is a very common tool in homes.
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Also, if you do not have a vice, you can use if you have some strength in hands and skill, a Groove-Joint Pliers (I think is called this way)

I think it is a very common tool in homes.
I will try it. But what do you think of the above? Will it work do you think?
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Usually is necessary many kilos of pressure to press the diode, and I not see
the right way to do it without some sort of tool to exert sufficient pressure
without the risk of damaging the diode, the right way to do is with a vice or
clamp or channel locks (Groove-Joint Pliers) or other like this, I see difficult or
at risk trying to press it manually, pushing or banging with objects, IMO.
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Oh ya I forgot about the pliers! Nice catch Piferal! Give that a try too.

@Ginhev123 Inform your friend about how delicate these are and some common safety measures. If he takes the back off to check it make sure he understands ESD and how he needs to be clean.
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It is best if he can see how the parts and tools fits together, I'm sure he has good mechanical knowledge, and thus can judge by himself how to press.
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why not try to take a file and put the axis module.In a vise.
And it may take a awhile, file lenthwise,as close as you can to the diode side without hitting it.
You want to file a groove in the side of the axis module.
and pry apart slowly take your time,this should allow you to remove the diode without damage.
Cheaper to replace the axis module then the diode.
You could have one axis module that was a little off on the measurements.
I removed the same diode once in my axis module, put the axis module in vise and close the vise to put pressure on the axis module only,let the pins sit above the vise,and use a flat metal file.Try to file as close to the diode side as you can when you barely see the side of the diode,carefully use a screwdriver to seperate the two sides.and good luck
It should pop right out safely,after my troubles with that diode i went out and bought a dremel tool with a litte cutting disk,never had a problem again.
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