Old 07-10-2008, 09:24 PM #1
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 9,402
Rep Power: 15890465
diachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond repute
diachi diachi is online now
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 9,402
Rep Power: 15890465
diachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond repute
Default Not the UK aswell ...

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-20637939/

Now they are trying to ban them in the UK :'(

Sorry for my lack of posting over the last two days , it wouldnt let me on, damn 403 error, need to use a proxy and I couldnt be bothered.

Diachi


__________________
Check out the Laser Pointer Subreddit!


>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LaserPointers/ <<
diachi is online now   Reply With Quote


















Old 07-10-2008, 09:38 PM #2
rog8811's Avatar
Class 3B Laser
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berkshire UK
Posts: 2,749
Rep Power: 1252
rog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond repute
rog8811 rog8811 is offline
Class 3B Laser
rog8811's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berkshire UK
Posts: 2,749
Rep Power: 1252
rog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond reputerog8811 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

whoopy-do, just what we need , more legislation......
You wonder what the criteria will be to get a licence.....maybe you will need to get more than 120 on an IQ test...... maybe they will search your house and if they find a hoody, no licence......

Regards rog8811
__________________
See all of my videos on Vimeo
http://www.vimeo.com/4454150

Lots of tutorials and information on lasers
http://www.rog8811.com/

In the land of the blind the one eyed man..... is most likely holding the laser
rog8811 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2008, 09:38 PM #3
Razako's Avatar
Class 3B Laser
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,496
Rep Power: 2425488
Razako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond repute
Razako Razako is offline
Class 3B Laser
Razako's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,496
Rep Power: 2425488
Razako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

It's a bit sad how this isn't even news anymore.
__________________

Razako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2008, 09:52 PM #4
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 9,402
Rep Power: 15890465
diachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond repute
diachi diachi is online now
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 9,402
Rep Power: 15890465
diachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

I know ... Ill be fine, no hoodies in my house and my IQ is around 135 so thats always good, suppose we could always resort to modules if we really had to, atleast I have 4 lasers coming from DX to cheer me up, two for me and two for friends/family.

Also blegh, theres been too much mess today, first the mouldy chess set, now my room.

Diachi
__________________
Check out the Laser Pointer Subreddit!


>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LaserPointers/ <<
diachi is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2008, 09:58 PM #5
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 728
Rep Power: 13
bobobob121 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to bobobob121
bobobob121 bobobob121 is offline
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 728
Rep Power: 13
bobobob121 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to bobobob121
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

i still cant figure out how people could physically keep a laser steady enough to track an airplane let alone the cockpit of it. Wouldn't some of these passengers on that flight seen this laser at least? All these stories that the pilots are coming out with sound a bit sketchy to me. I don't understand how the pilot was &quot;blinded&quot; with it for 10 seconds...was he counting or something? :-?
__________________
Ahh lets all freak out about IR!!
bobobob121 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2008, 10:00 PM #6
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 9,402
Rep Power: 15890465
diachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond repute
diachi diachi is online now
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 9,402
Rep Power: 15890465
diachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

I know, its really hard to keep it pointed at such a small area at that distance for that time, the slightest shake causes it to move A LOT, plus even trying to get it on something that small at that distance is hard.

Diachi
__________________
Check out the Laser Pointer Subreddit!


>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LaserPointers/ <<
diachi is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2008, 10:21 PM #7
VW's Avatar
VW VW is offline
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 579
Rep Power: 13
VW will become famous soon enough
VW VW is offline
Class 2M Laser
VW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 579
Rep Power: 13
VW will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

&quot;A Record probe found DX where a 200milliWatt(mW) laser-200 times more powerful than the UK safety limit of 1mW - is being offered for just 60.&quot;

Fixed...

;D
__________________
Dragon Lasers Hulk >150mW 532nm - Average 212mW
Dragon Lasers Spartan BP >40mW 473nm - Average 47mW
Kryton Groove PHR 405nm - TBC
VW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2008, 10:44 PM #8
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 797
Rep Power: 16903
iewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond repute
iewed iewed is offline
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 797
Rep Power: 16903
iewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

I wouldn't mind having to get a license for owning lasers, it would help prove that there are responsible individuals out there who can safely own and operate Class 3B and Class IV lasers.

On a side note, I've always found that most stories are extremely similar &quot;Blinded for X seconds, but safely landed). According to Pseudonome137's calculator, the beam diameter would be at least 30 feet, which couldn't &quot;blind&quot; the target, but could obscure his or her view. And as others have stated, it would be next to impossible to keep the laser focused in that long unless it was mounted, and the user had access to a telescope.
iewed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2008, 10:47 PM #9
Razako's Avatar
Class 3B Laser
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,496
Rep Power: 2425488
Razako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond repute
Razako Razako is offline
Class 3B Laser
Razako's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 4,496
Rep Power: 2425488
Razako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond reputeRazako has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by iewed
I wouldn't mind having to get a license for owning lasers, it would help prove that there are responsible individuals out there who can safely own and operate Class 3B and Class IV lasers.

On a side note, I've always found that most stories are extremely similar &quot;Blinded for X seconds, but safely landed). According to Pseudonome137's calculator, the beam diameter would be at least 30 feet, which couldn't &quot;blind&quot; the target, but could obscure his or her view. And as others have stated, it would be next to impossible to keep the laser focused in that long unless it was mounted, and the user had access to a telescope.
The problem with needing a permit is that you can't list &quot;enthusiast&quot; as your reason for NEEDING a high powered laser. You need a legit job related reason to get a permit. Astronomy might also work, but then you would need to prove that you belong to an astronomy club.
__________________

Razako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2008, 10:53 PM #10
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 797
Rep Power: 16903
iewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond repute
iewed iewed is offline
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 797
Rep Power: 16903
iewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond reputeiewed has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

I don't think you need to belong to a club to prove you are something, I play video games, doesn't that make me a gamer without joining a club? Same could be said for guns, instruments, and virtually any thing that people collect or base a hobby around.

A test to get your license could also work, primarily asking about safety, how a laser (diode, DPSS, and gas) works, useful applications, etc. People who devote enough time to research these things upon their own free will are probably less likely to go and shine them at cars and airplanes.
iewed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2008, 11:09 PM #11
jamie.91
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
jamie.91
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

THIS SUCKS asif the uk doesnt have enuf laws anv b**ls**t this is so stupid whats rong with catching the idiots doing this and throwing them in jail why punish everyone &gt;
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2008, 11:52 PM #12
RA_pierce's Avatar
Class 3B Laser
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 3,375
Rep Power: 2496094
RA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond repute
RA_pierce RA_pierce is offline
Class 3B Laser
RA_pierce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 3,375
Rep Power: 2496094
RA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond reputeRA_pierce has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by iewed
I don't think you need to belong to a club to prove you are something, I play video games, doesn't that make me a gamer without joining a club? Same could be said for guns, instruments, and virtually any thing that people collect or base a hobby around.

A test to get your license could also work, primarily asking about safety, how a laser (diode, DPSS, and gas) works, useful applications, etc. People who devote enough time to research these things upon their own free will are probably less likely to go and shine them at cars and airplanes.
I agree a test would be best, however, that still doesn't stop the &quot;attacks&quot; from happening. I seriously doubt that these incidents were &quot;terrorist attacks.&quot; More like curious and unintelligent human.
Even if licenses are required, it only prevents people from buying new ones. That doesn't keep the lasers out of the hands of those who already own them. For me, I could just take an astronomy class as an elective and then all of a sudden I have a legitimate use for a 120mW green laser than can melt plastic ;D
__________________
405nm
450nm
488nm
495nm details
508nm details
532nm
638nm details
How to build a pen
RA_pierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2008, 02:28 AM #13
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 609
Rep Power: 13
el-taco is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to el-taco
el-taco el-taco is offline
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 609
Rep Power: 13
el-taco is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to el-taco
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

Quote:
A Record probe found one Chinese website where a 200milliWatt(mW) laser-200 times more powerful than the UK safety limit of 1mW - is being offered for just 60.
I wonder what site theyve been too :


This sucks big time, at least australians wont feel as bad :P
el-taco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2008, 05:54 AM #14
Kenom's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 5,629
Rep Power: 305
Kenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Kenom
Kenom Kenom is offline
Class 4 Laser
Kenom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 5,629
Rep Power: 305
Kenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond reputeKenom has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Kenom
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by iewed
On a side note, I've always found that most stories are extremely similar &quot;Blinded for X seconds, but safely landed). According to Pseudonome137's calculator, the beam diameter would be at least 30 feet, which couldn't &quot;blind&quot; the target, but could obscure his or her view. And as others have stated, it would be next to impossible to keep the laser focused in that long unless it was mounted, and the user had access to a telescope.

Ok I want you to go 1km from me and I'll shine my 100mw green at you. *At that range the &quot;dot&quot; will be huge. *However since you have been sitting in the dark for some time and have acclimated your eyes to the dark so that you could see while you were operating all that equipment in your plane, I hit you with my 2 meter large green spotlight. *Since it is now 2 meters it is very easy for me to keep that beam in your vision as well as all of that light (still a freaking ton) has now completely and uterly destroyed your night vision and blinded you for several minutes. *Sound fun. *Lets try it. *May not damage your eyes like a focused beam will at close range but it will still be REALLY FREAKIN BRIGHT.

What we need to do is be more responsible NOT scream and yell at how improbable the situation is!~
Kenom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2008, 09:20 AM #15
Class 1 Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 85
Rep Power: 11
JamesHooper is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to JamesHooper
JamesHooper JamesHooper is offline
Class 1 Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 85
Rep Power: 11
JamesHooper is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to JamesHooper
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

i reckon the test is a good idea, and although it doesnt take away the lasers from people who have them already, itll prevent more of them from falling into the hands of careless individuals.
We should set up a petition for like, a test to get a license or something.
I would but I dont know how to go about it &gt;.&lt;
JamesHooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2008, 10:30 AM #16
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 9,402
Rep Power: 15890465
diachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond repute
diachi diachi is online now
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 9,402
Rep Power: 15890465
diachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond reputediachi has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Not the UK aswell ...

@ Kenom : these people probably aren't using 100mW laser to point them at aircraft, try '30mW' ebaysers and thats probably more accurate, still bright but no where near as bad, plus 10-20% would get blocked by the aircrafts windows, which would be hard to aim at in the first place.

I like the test idea, it would help people who actually need and use lasers on a daily basis.

Diachi
__________________
Check out the Laser Pointer Subreddit!


>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LaserPointers/ <<
diachi is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply





Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



























Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use


 


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:18 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use
Copyright (C) 2017 Laser Pointer Forums, LLC