Lithium ion batteries

The nightly news has gone into panic scare mode on its new favorite subject to create the big fear and paranoia. Wonder how long they will carry that one before Finding the next thing.
Tired of the "we must sensationalize everything that could potentially have any capacity to hurt someone". Of course that's not exactly fair as what don't they sensationalize.

That's typical news for you Pman unfortunately. The only way they will get rating & views is by covering silliness and creating lies.

Nothing to see here folks. *sigh*

-Alex

Pman said:

The nightly news has gone into panic scare mode on its new favorite subject to create the big fear and paranoia. Wonder how long they will carry that one before Finding the next thing.
Tired of the "we must sensationalize everything that could potentially have any capacity to hurt someone". Of course that's not exactly fair as what don't they sensationalize.

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I don't like lithium ions.Anything that can release hydrogen fluoride gas scares me.Of course I still use them.But I know if they vent to get away FAST!

I understand that with good cells properly handled the danger is minimal.

The fire thing does not bug me nearly as much as the potential to lose lung capacity due to HF gas.Heck insurance covers much....replacement lungs not so much.

I keep a very close eye on my cells.They are potentially dangerous.

That being said leave it to the media to bring maximum hype as well as disinformation to the table.

My cousin works with a person who lost more than half their house to a fire started with a cellphone battery that was in a drawer

Laser Chick said:

My cousin works with a person who lost more than half their house to a fire started with a cellphone battery that was in a drawer

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That is very sad.My li cells are in a surplus mortar round ammo box!
Being careful is a good thing.

So much energy in such a small space.....

^^ Nice, very nice :gj:

Laser Chick said:

^^ Nice, very nice :gj:

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Thank you!

I'm stupidly guilty of not taking these batteries very seriously. I do charge them very carefully always when i'm up and home and never overnight. I do though store them though all together in a bubble shipping bag in one of my dresser draws. Would a small fire proof lock box be the best? as long as they are in a plastic case. What is the best possible way? I realize this is a very noobie question......I'l edit a little maby just using common sense with them to avoid anything stupid as even when I was a kid when regular Everready's were around they warned of the possibility of exploding just like those bic's we have in are pocket are in the news once in a while.

I've got enough Lithiums to build my own electric car

GSS said:

So how many boxes or crates would you need

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7,104 Li-Ion batteries. Think you'll need a fridge.

I wouldn't fear these batteries. Sure they can explode like that but not often enough to invalidate them. I think we should think more about how much they do for us rather than take away. With great power comes great responsibility as spiderman says.

Pman said:

I've got enough Lithiums to build my own electric car

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It really doesn't help matters when you have a few lights that require 6 matched batteries.

I'm VERY careful to keep any lasers requiring more than one cell with their battery set. I have a TK-40 which takes 8 cells but I either just use alkalines or Eneloops for it. Fact is it sits on a shelf like most of my lights albeit unscrewed enough so it doesn't slowly discharge.
I do have one light that I have 4 panasonic PF 18650 cells in that I just checked on that all are at the exact same voltage that also sits on a shelf.
What be this monster 8 matched cell unit you allude to sir?

For the record I somehow magically have an even 100 different size rechargeable Li-ion cells that are currently not being used (not including the 3 crap old 18650 cells from a laptop pull that I haven't disposed of yet. What I mean by that is every single laser I own has its own batteries assigned to it so there must be at least another 100-150. I do use some other cells like LiFePO4 that I don't see hardly anyone else using but those are mainly for specific applications that can't handle a full 4.2V or are a substitute for a couple AA or AAA.

My comment about the electric car is because out of my 4 vehicles 2 are hybrids and one of the 2 is a plug-in hybrid. I cant remember exactly but I think the plug-in has around 280 18650 style cells. What I find really interesting is according to toyota when I plug it in it actually only charges to 85% for a full charge and then switches out of all electric mode to operate like a standard Prius on a different set of batteries at 23%. They obviously figured out that that's the way to get the longest life out of them.

I actually really need to take a day and go through my batteries. At least 40 18650's are old laptop pulls, no protection circuits, but there is a fair chance many are now below 2.5v.

The 6 cell monsters are a modified X60, and X60M lights;

X60vn 2015 - Lumen & Throw
X60Mvn - XL Searchlight

They have been surpassed now, but the X60vn is still my favorite BIG all around use light. I have 24 batteries set aside for use with them specifically.

I have a fair amount of 18650's and keep them in a cardboard box that is long and thin so the batteries all stack up nicely side by side so no ends touch each other.

A battery to watch out for are 9 volts with both terminals right next to each other. Throw them in a "junk" drawer in the kitchen and the potential to start a fire is there

NH Fire Marshal Warns About ?Junk Drawer? Items After Amherst Blaze « CBS Boston

Laser Chick said:

I have a fair amount of 18650's and keep them in a cardboard box that is long and thin so the batteries all stack up nicely side by side so no ends touch each other.

A battery to watch out for are 9 volts with both terminals right next to each other. Throw them in a "junk" drawer in the kitchen and the potential to start a fire is there

NH Fire Marshal Warns About ?Junk Drawer? Items After Amherst Blaze « CBS Boston

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We should start a "Who has the worst junk drawer" thread. Mine is so full that its starting another junk drawer below it from junk falling out. "I know i'm not alone on this" Wonder what the #1 junk drawer item is?:thinking: