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yea, all laser companies will just send their lasers labeled as ball pens


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imagine we would all be outlaws if this was passed in most countries
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By the time it reaches my country I'll be dead
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Or blind ;D ;D Yeah, as long as they keep selling DVD burners, PS3 sleds, BR burners, we can still make DIY lasers, As far as i know, if your worried about your lasers getting taken, get the company to label them something like LED pen or ball pen or something.
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well all the lasers in my signature (except the core) have gotten to my house illegally so.... lol
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well last time i checked, nova sent my X-75 as a ball pen valued at something like 35 bucks.
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My $1100 Spartan 300mW was a "hand torch" valued at $25.
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I know perfectly well things will not be any different if these laws are passed, thing is it will just make it harder to recruit others into the hobby, and just becomes another nuisance we have to deal with.
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Passing a law banning lasers will be pointless. They won't be sold in dollar stores anymore, but there is now way that they can keep out the higher powered greenies entirely. Hows this for a better law:

1: Greatly increase the fines and add possibly jail time for pointing >5mW lasers at vehicles or people

2: All laser device manufacturers are required to include a slip of paper with their product informing buyers of these fines or other punishments.


As far as I am aware nobody has ever died from a portable laser. But baseball bats are used to kill people all the time, and I don't see anyone trying out outlaw those!
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If baseball bats wouldn't exist people would just break off a chair leg and kill someone.If chairs wouldn't exist, people would just find another big chunk of wood to hit someone over the head.If there were no lasers , there wouldn't be problems of this kind for pilots as you couldn't get another source of coherent light to focus into the cockpit of an airplane.So that analogy doesn't really work.Of course they see "banned"="doesn't exist" ,which couldn't be more false :P That's why it wouldn't do any good.
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Pointing these at airplanes is not good, lol. Before I got much into lasers I pointed my <5mW green at an airplane thinking it could never hit it. But as soon as I saw a dot on it I knew it would be a bad idea to do it again! :-[

The law now is it can't leave your property if its >5mW right? That seems pretty fair to me, they could just enforce it more with dangerous use.
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If baseball bats wouldn't exist people would just break off a chair leg and kill someone.If chairs wouldn't exist, people would just find another big chunk of wood to hit someone over the head.If there were no lasers , there wouldn't be problems of this kind for pilots as you couldn't get another source of coherent light to focus into the cockpit of an airplane.So that analogy doesn't really work.Of course they see "banned"="doesn't exist" ,which couldn't be more false :P That's why it wouldn't do any good.
Your logic about lasers not existing is still no good in this situation. It is like saying that we would be better off if cars didn't exist because no one would ever die in a car accident. Or like saying that electricity should be banned so no one ever dies from electrocution.

The point is that banning something simply because it can be dangerous if misused in an extremely stupid way is never a good solution. Also even if somehow all lasers ceased to exist the same idiots shining them at planes would simply find another way to be detrimental to society. Last year in my area there was a big problem with people dropping rocks off overpasses onto the cars below.
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Don't worry everybody, whenever an oppressive bloated bureaucratic fascist agency blocks our rights a black market is there to help. Not only that, a laser can be made at home much easer then a gun (well its really the ammo that is the hard part).

If they outlaw guns I will build my own, outlaw lasers and I'll do the same. They can't stop the people they will only make us better at what we do. If your forced to make your own, you can make better ones then you can obtain legally.
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Passing a law banning lasers will be pointless. They won't be sold in dollar stores anymore, but there is now way that they can keep out the higher powered greenies entirely. Hows this for a better law:

1: Greatly increase the fines and add possibly jail time for pointing >5mW lasers at vehicles or people

2: All laser device manufacturers are required to include a slip of paper with their product informing buyers of these fines or other punishments.


As far as I am aware nobody has ever died from a portable laser. But baseball bats are used to kill people all the time, and I don't see anyone trying out outlaw those!

It's already a $30,000 dollar fine and 2 years jail, pointing at planes that is.
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you guys ruined it i was gonna include a link to this thread in an email to the police commicioner to prove that we are not crazy pyro people who lust at lasers and are good at following the rules. then someone goes we just build laser and gun ...blablabla
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hehe, building guns : you'd need to be pretty damn good (and have a good supplier of parts, ammo etc) to match any store-bought stuff
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