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@InfinitusEquitas The Statistic i linked in this thread earlier, has the 30% and I got it from other sources as well... Just Because you Personally don't "Know" about it doesn't make the Study False. People who think alike tend to gravitate towards each-other and not talk about it to other people they know who are not like them. And I bet your friend who likes "Young" Girls wouldn't think twice about there "Real" age. Most men who are in that World don't seek it out per say they just want as Young as Possible and don't think twice about it when the time comes.


My 1st On Topic point : Why is it that "Most" Women don't like it or at the Least don't Understand "Why"? And the Ones who Do are Far and Few Between? I'm not asking because I would like to talk about them more, but as more of a Psychology Question?
Valid point. I just find the 30% statistic to be insane, and very very disturbing. I mean as I wrote before I don't have much of an issue with prostitution itself, but I do take issue with the exploitation, and exploitation of kids (IMO under 20 = kid) is beyond wrong.

With regards to the on topic part (about time! ) I think it's really a matter of conditioning. Women and men are equally capable in 99.99% of mentally challenging tasks. While there are some physiological differences they are not sufficient to account for the technical/nerd divide.

What bothers me though, is that while I might not enjoy it, or understand it, it really doesn't matter to me if a girl wants to collect 200 pairs of shoes (I mean honestly, who needs 10 inch heels?). It's not a negative. So how come so many male hobbies are a negative to women?


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You make a Very valid point. They don't get harassed by the male population on the things they collect. (more so that they harass each other about them ) I think they just see the lasers as a bunch of shoes/cloths they "Should Have" and Don't...
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Alright! Something i can utilise Evolutionary Psychology on!!

Disclaimer: The following is totally reductionistic and only really considers one approach for understanding issues such as this. Just the way i like it!

In our environment of evolutionary adaptation (or EEA) men will have been out hunting, and women will have stayed at home looking after children. Because of how any time any man can ejaculate into anything roughly female there is a chance that it will end up pregnant, thus baring his child, thus passing his genes on. The best part for the man? There's a big almost year-long gap in which the woman has no choice but to bear it and during that time he can run away, make himself scarce and not contribute to the upbringing of the child. He's won. Conversely, women don't benefit from short-term relationships or casual or careless ***. They're not going to do her any good as she's then having to drag around a big ol' lump in her womb for the next almost-year which is parasitically chewing away at her hard-gotten food and physically disabling her somewhat from conducting the activities she usually would. It is also very difficult for her to leave this baby in the arms of the father and jet off to repeat the process because she's not able to hand it to him until a lot later and by that time she's invested far more in its upbringing than he has, so if he ditches it and it dies she's lost far more than he has.
Parental investment theory. Trivers is a great man.

So this gives rise to an effect we can all observe all the time. Men will happily fuck anything, and women are picky about partners. Therefore, in the good old EEA, for the best part females would choose their male partners. Although the more attractive ("attractive" being "showing signs of youth, health, likelihood of successful childbearing, e.g. small features concentrated around the centre of the face, symmetrical-appearing facial features, smooth skin, long hair, large eyes, plump lips, curvey hips and large mammary glands") the woman, the more successful ("successful" being "showing signs of youth and health but also of status, power, successful ability to protect her and bring home the bacon, e.g. large abdominal and bicep muscles, testosterone features such as bushy eyebrows and a thick beard, or demonstrable ability to run fast, jump high, throw far, hit hard or perform high-functioning cognitive tasks).
So what do women mainly need to spend their time doing? Looking pretty and youthful. Thus they spend their time changing their hair or buying new clothes, handbags and shoes. And what do men need to spend their time doing? Well, for a start, killing stuff. Young boys will observably gravitate towards aggressive play from very young. Luckily, that's trained out of most of us. So what else can we do? Well... how about, practice our abilities at demonstrating that we're strong and powerful and can protect our women and bring home the bacon? Sports! But, then again, there are many of us (like me) who do not possess large biceps or abdominal muscles and who can't hit hard, run fast or throw far. So what can we do? Play to our strengths and demonstrate high-functioning cognitive ability by... guess what... building lasers!!

I enjoyed that essay.

The negativity women show towards it is a funny thing though. I'm guessing maybe that's because of how men will want to have *** with anything roughly female, women have to do what they can to quell this tendency. So i suppose as soon as a woman is in a relationship with a man she will try to destroy his love of such activities. Mehh... who knows?
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So you think it's a variation on Freud's penis envy theory? Possible. Although I would be quite happy if a girl wanted to play with all my oblong objects, I don't mind sharing
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So what do women mainly need to spend their time doing? Looking pretty and youthful. Thus they spend their time changing their hair or buying new clothes, handbags and shoes.

...men will want to have *** with anything roughly female, women have to do what they can to quell this tendency. So i suppose as soon as a woman is in a relationship with a man she will try to destroy his love of such activities. Mehh... who knows?
I edited out a bit, but didn't change wording, kind of killing your own point there

Based on your argument women should find lasers to be attractive. Trust me... with a few exceptions.. they don't

I've also had the experience of the eyes glazing over. I start talking about something in detail, and I can practically chart the interest level going down. Of course when I see that I usually order another round of drinks and switch topics.
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Yep, Basic human design works better with a 1 on 1 Life Partnership but that only works when both are "Working" Toward that Goal of building each other up and working together in making it work.

This would also mean you would of took time in learning about your prospective mate before marriage, but to many Men in the world Have *** with people they really Barely Know and then Lust Takes over and you tend to not focus on the real person they are and just what your getting out of it, and then you sink into a bad relationship where you guys are not matched well. This then in turn perpetuates the Problem and the idea that it can't work and that then adds to you looking for any excuse to leave and goto the proverbial greener Grass in turn perpetuates the problem further....
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in pink = attractive

Go on a date with the woman, show her your laser make it look like that, or like StridAsts one, with lots sparkles and diamonds mm.
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Actually nature works against us in this regard. While agree with you on this, the fact remains that we (men) are genetically predisposed to seek out as many potential *** partners as possible in order to propagate the species.

At the same time women are genetically predisposed to seek out the best potential mate to produce a healthy child... again to propagate the species.

What truly screws up the plan for men kind, is that we are aware enough to use contraception and couple for a reasons other than propagation... pleasure and fun. The pleasure and fun of *** is there to promote the creation of as many off spring as possible.

Monkeys masturbate and couple all the time also strictly for pleasure as do other species... but men (men and women) are the only ones who do so with the specific desire to not have an offspring.

Our evolutionary imperative is unfortunately at odds with our current situation.
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Go on a date with the woman, show her your laser make it look like that, or like StridAsts one, with lots sparkles and diamonds mm.
LMAO!!! I'm ok with wearing a pink shirt, or whatever, but I think if I did what you suggest they girls would assume I'm gay. I know I'd never live it down from my friends if I pulled out large pink oblong object out of my pocket...
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Impress the woman or be shamed by your friends? XD
Well, one thing you could do is to buy a cheap DX laser, engrave something pretty on it with gems and have a 405 in there, say it's for her. She'll like you haha ;p
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What bothers me though, is that while I might not enjoy it, or understand it, it really doesn't matter to me if a girl wants to collect 200 pairs of shoes (I mean honestly, who needs 10 inch heels?). It's not a negative. So how come so many male hobbies are a negative to women?
Cause, ofcourse, all the money you spend as male, for your hobby, is less money that remain on the credit card for "improve" the shoes collection, for the woman .....

(just kidding )


On a serious side, it's difficult to say .... hobbies are very personal things, you can find women that have so-called "male" hobbies (motors, hi-tech, building/DIY, modelers, and so on), same as you can find men that have so-called "female" hobbies (flowers, cooking, dressing, and so on) ..... but in this field, statistics count nothing, cause same as is difficult to find men that publicly admit to have "female" hobbies, same as is difficult to find women that publicly admit to have "male" hobbies, and both just cause they fear to be "discriminated" or laughed for that .....

Well, at least, lasers and laser interest is an "uni***" hobby, so please, girls, don't fear to declare your interests in them



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It depend from your bank account, i suppose .....



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..... if I pulled out large pink oblong object out of my pocket...
It depend from the object, i suppose .....
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Too much effort for a typical one night stand

Might be worth a shot for date 5+ if there was some kind of holiday or even to coincide.

Unfortunately I'm a bit of a clutz, so while I can do plenty of things with my hands, they usually don't come out looking too pretty.
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Its almost like a jealousy thing.. Anything that takes the attention away from
them is bound to cause static..


Could have been churning butter, shed get mad at the stick lol..

We could just take it back to this with what you sayd HIMNL9.

But I think a woman is more open to saying if they have male hobbies, but a male seems to be less likely to say they like female hobbies.
Except now in the UK men are beggining to wear fake tan and makeup o_o
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....., so while I can do plenty of things with my hands....
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Your right it does Break down to Our Own Perspective on "How we are Here"

Even if you Believe we Evolved tho, I think we Can agree that the ""Ideal"" situation would be best for our Mental Wellbeing and Psychical Heath If we Had a life long partner that are working as a Team with us and the Man Respects the womans thoughts and Ideas and he showed her love and support and The Woman can have a deep respect for her loving husband and both are working together as a team, a True Friendship.

This World Focuses people to really just worry about them Selfs and that Really Makes the Above statement Very Hard to Accomplish. People are basically trained today to have a Lust for Each other not Really Knowing Each other and when it gets hard because of anything to Leave Etc.

Most people live together and really don't know Each other That well.
A: Do you know and Agree if you want to or Not have kids Ever?
B: Can You have a in Depth Conversation you both disagree about and not get Mad at Each other?
C: Are You Both Truly Committed to Each other?
D: Do You Fully Trust Each other?
E: Do you share the Same Life priorities? Your Relationship should be important to both of you, Do you allow your Job or other Family to become more important to you than your mate?
F: Do you Share the Same Concept of How to Treat and Use Money??
G: Do you Think "Oh thats Annoying but I'll Change that about them" (More a Woman issue than a Man)
H: Can you Talk about issue G: and Not Get Mad at each other?
I: When you Argue do you Degrade your Partner or are you up-building?
J: Are you Trying to Stay Attracted to your Mate or do you or they "Look" at Other People??
K: BIG ONE "Is Your Partner Your Best Friend?
L: Do you Guys Like or at least Except the Same Type of Pets or are willing to not let it bother you??
M: Do you Except each others Hobbies??
N: Do You Know & Except Each Others Spirituality? And How you would raise Your Kids (If your having them)
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