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Laser self defense?

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Kirby-Morgan said:
What do you use your laser for?

I get the impression that it's or sitting pretty on the desk or something.

Does anyone use theres for more practical applicatons like on a moving part, in the vehicle beaming the sky or for self defense etc?
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this post from another topic got me wondering about it.....what are the laws in the US with using high powered lasers as a defensive weapon.....seeing as i may blind a person i'm not sure if it would be legal like pepper spray is.
 





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When it comes right to it I wouldnt think about it like that, if someone tried to pull a knife or something on me my reaction would to be to shine it right in there eyes, I wouldnt consider the legal possibilities, I'm pretty sure you'd be off the hook if they knew the guy was trying to harm you.

lol i just realized that post sounds very bad what I just typed.. but I guess there is no good way to type it...
 
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As a cop, I can say with 99.9 percent certainty that if one were to point their laser, regardless of color or power, at someone who was trying to attack them, they would likely get shot (assuming of course the attacker were armed) because the attacker would think they were being targeted themselves.

A laser as a self defense device is an incredibly bad idea.
 
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That would depend also on what country and what state you are in....here in the US what constitutes self-defense and how much force is allowed to be used varies. States with very liberal weapons regulations like Texas you probably could blind someone in self-defense (even if permanently) and face no repercussions.

But in some states burglars have been injured while breaking into homes and they have sued the homeowner for compensation - and won! Hard to believe..... In some places you probably could be sued, and lose, if you blinded someone in self defense. But whether or not you'd face criminal charges would depend on so many variables it's impossible to say.

Mostly it's about "reasonable" force.....if someone punches you, you have the right to punch them back, but you don't have the right to then go on and kill that person. That would be unreasonable force. Someone who's going at you with a deadly weapon and you blind them with a laser, I'd think that would be very reasonable, especially if that's the only thing you had on you that could be used as a weapon.
 
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Feuer 594 said:
As a cop, I can say with 99.9 percent certainty that if one were to point their laser, regardless of color or power, at someone who was trying to attack them, they would likely get shot (assuming of course the attacker were armed) because the attacker would think they were being targeted themselves.

A laser as a self defense device is an incredibly bad idea.
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Yeah, that's another thing - would you actually be able to completely incapacitate your attacker with a laser? Or would they be able to shoot/stab you anyway? Something to think about. Personally I'd rather have a baseball bat, crowbar or even a gun in that case than a laser.
 
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Schrecken_Licht said:
That would depend also on what country and what state you are in....here in the US what constitutes self-defense and how much force is allowed to be used varies. States with very liberal weapons regulations like Texas you probably could blind someone in self-defense (even if permanently) and face no repercussions.

But in some states burglars have been injured while breaking into homes and they have sued the homeowner for compensation - and won! Hard to believe..... In some places you probably could be sued, and lose, if you blinded someone in self defense. But whether or not you'd face criminal charges would depend on so many variables it's impossible to say.

Mostly it's about "reasonable" force.....if someone punches you, you have the right to punch them back, but you don't have the right to then go on and kill that person. That would be unreasonable force. Someone who's going at you with a deadly weapon and you blind them with a laser, I'd think that would be very reasonable, especially if that's the only thing you had on you that could be used as a weapon.
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You have the right to defend yourself with the minimum amount of force necessary. If you're being attacked, you can use whatever means that you need to to stop the attack and defend yourself and your belongings. However, once you stop the attack, you cannot "teach them a lesson" or get revenge or do anything of the sort. Once the attacker stops and surrenders, you have no right to lay a hand on them.

Well, that goes for the US anyway.
 
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Feuer 594 said:
As a cop, I can say with 99.9 percent certainty that if one were to point their laser, regardless of color or power, at someone who was trying to attack them, they would likely get shot (assuming of course the attacker were armed) because the attacker would think they were being targeted themselves.

A laser as a self defense device is an incredibly bad idea.
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but if they cant see you from the blinding light in their eyes it would be hard to shoot you...

lets say someone like me, i can probably fight back but I don't know any self defense. I'm just a 17 year old kid with a laser, and a knife. lol. wouldn't the laser be my best bet if I have no self defense experience? If you could imediately get it in their eyes before they can see the laser is heading in the direction of their eyes, it's already too late for them. Even if your eyes are closed and a 150mW laser is shined at it the brightness creates a huge blindspot that temporarly blinds you for about 10 seconds (hmm... I wonder how I know this ;D I'm never making that mistake again!).
 
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The laser would work, trust me, you get hit in the eyes, the only thing that they can do is fight blind.

Listening to the posters who've taken a hit accidently I think a good hand held laser is very much an 'equaliser' in the right hands.

It's also perfectly legal to carry one in the UK too ;)
 
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If you are in a fight where you blind the person, well, they'd be helpless. So just kill them and hide the body, no legal problems then.

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Murudai said:
If you are in a fight where you blind the person, well, they'd be helpless. So just kill them and hide the body, no legal problems then.

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Kill 'Em All
Let God Sort 'Em Out

Peace,
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And for every time someone uses a laser to blind another person even in self defense , im sure a nice ban will be imposed in your area... :p
 
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wannaburn said:
And for every time someone uses a laser to blind  another person even in self defense , im sure a nice ban will be imposed  in your area... :p
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Agreed.

Use a 5watt high infrared laser with a scope, they (or no one else for that matter) would know what hit em!
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With all the Anti-Laser laws you would probably be better off
using the laser to poke your attacker in the eye. ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
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I've always wondered if there are laws against SUPER BRIGHT light in general.

Like for example, what if I took the xenon flash tube for something like a jumbo jet and put a parabolic reflector behind it, and then I flashed it at someone... is that illegal?
 
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